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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:28 PM Original message |
Does the President realize how close he is to losing his progressive base? |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. Jesus effing Christ. That sentiment has been posted ad nauseum here for 2 years. Nt |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
53. Yeah, haven't you learned that the answer is "Not Really..."? /nt |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. Do 'these progressives' realize the damage 'falling off' would do??? |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
59. the left is not the group you should worry about... |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #59 |
94. So it makes more sense |
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Mr Deltoid (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #94 |
105. It makes no sense |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #105 |
109. No |
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Mr Deltoid (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #109 |
124. There is no such thing as the 'moderate majority' |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #94 |
112. The far left minority... |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. Not this progressive |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. since the speech, the Prez's positives have gone down a point |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
92. The FireDogLake crowd are still bitter, and are insignificant |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
4. Did you realize he wants to tax the rich to pay off our social security tax tab this coming year? |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. I posted this today, I see others have too. Sunk like a stone. nt |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
39. Which makes one wonder what people thought happened with the cut this year. |
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sad sally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 09:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
71. Do you seriously think the Republican-led Boehner/Cantor group |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
75. And God wants us to all be happy. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
115. Link, please? n/t |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. This again? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. I don't think many are close to leaving, many are already gone |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Where have all the progressives gone? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Given his still 84% approval rating among liberal Democrats, apparently not many. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Ah, still posting outdated material I see |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. You post a link from JULY and you have the nerve to call Wraith's info "outdated?" |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Certainly more up to date that the Wraith's figure |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Actually no, it's from two weeks ago. Care to spin again? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Got a link? n/t |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. It's right there on Gallup's site. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Perhaps you need to check your own link |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Wraith clearly said liberal democrats in post 11...nt |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Yes, he did, and his number was wrong and out of date |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Keep trying to spin it away. That number has been solid as a rock for months. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Think about how meaningless that statistic really is |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Little problem: your theory doesn't match actual reality. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. So you are saying that the more liberal a Democrat is the less "progressive" they are? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Try that again, please, this time in some way that's comprehensible. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
55. No, no non-negligible number of progressives have left the party. Denying that doesn't |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
63. HE is going to lose? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. "Progressives are hesitant to criticize this President" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
67. +10000 |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. No, but 'progressives' on DU have been saying this since he was elected. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. I don't think that is true at all. Progressives gave him time |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
9. nah, he knows and is gambling that it won't matter |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
12. Judging by the polls, not close at all. nt |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
13. I don't believe so. |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
50. And I think from Obama's context |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
15. Kentuck: He doesn't care. Progressives aren't his base and aren't what he's aiming for. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
16. He totally lost me with those right wing free trade deals. . . |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
17. He doesn't care, independants are going to make up the difference |
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Mr Deltoid (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #17 |
106. Obama's polls among independents mirror those among republcians |
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teddy51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
18. You certainly have your work cut out for yourself. Finding a suitable candidate |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
20. so if his so called base stays home we |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
41. Who says we're staying home? |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. sometimes i worry with what i read here. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. We not only vote but we're the activists. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. so does that mean you won't be voting for obama? |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 03:55 AM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Cute. n/t |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 05:11 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. great answer. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 05:16 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Thanks! |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #72 |
96. Numbers aren't on your side...FYI |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. What "side" is that? |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. The FireDogLake crowd...The folks who post from wsws.org |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. I've never been to either of those sites. |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #99 |
126. I have never been to the site wsws.org and have been at links |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #51 |
95. You shouldn't...there are only about 5000-10,000 unique posters |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
21. They have often signaled that they don't care, the base is for punching to impress indies. nt |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
26. He can lose his base only so often... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
33. The "progressives" left a long time ago. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. You should take the quotes off "Progressives" and put it on your "Democrats". |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I "should," eh? You know, I'm perfectly capable of thinking for |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. My posts are my opinion and you are free to take or leave my advice. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 07:47 AM Response to Reply #46 |
84. I'm also free to reply to your post with my own opinion, which I did. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Respectfully & strongly disagree. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. Nothing you do for the party will be effective if Obama doesn't win. We can elect veto proof |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Again, I respectfully disagree. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
57. Seems light on truth, plenty of us where on and/or leading the bandwagon. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Why lie? What does it bring you? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. It's not much of a leap at all to take someone who goes on Fox to brag |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. Keep telling that lie.. |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
43. This administration has continued many of junior's |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
48. Dear Kentuck, About "his base." |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
52. Utter |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
56. Where do you get the idea that the base is close to not supporting Obama? The data shows a higher |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 08:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Define "base". nt |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Look at any metric. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
62. It's not the fact that he's running against his base that's stupid |
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jimlup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
64. Depends on what you mean by losing support... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
65. 80%$$$$$$of his Liberal Base Support this President. It's the latest Polls... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
66. I thought it was already lost? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
70. Obama step down... if you dont respect yourself..at least save the Dem Party |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
73. I know what I hear in real life |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 10:42 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Personally, I don't much care about the 'motivators' as much as keeping the GOP |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. same here |
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xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 12:16 AM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Yes..in real life..people are not happy ..with the wars, with the economy, jobs, tar sands |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #79 |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
120. they probably watch too much tv. 'cavers' is a dead giveaway. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #120 |
128. These aren't people who who watch Fox or much TV at all |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #73 |
130. That is my experience, as well... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Right, compared to the red-hot enthusiasm of 2008, the responses of Dems |
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Indykatie (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
77. When I Saw the Post Headline I Already Knew The Writer Was |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 04:03 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. NO progressive believes in FICA cuts. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 08:44 AM Response to Reply #81 |
90. no one should support cuts to FICA especially |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 08:05 AM Response to Reply #77 |
85. I think there is some great misconception as to what a "Progressive" stands for. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 08:16 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. "Progressive" as in "Progressive Policy Institute"--a misnomer if there ever was one |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Proof that Conserva-Dems are simply trying to co-opt the term Progressive |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
87. A post on DU should cost $1.95 |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #87 |
98. Right. "Free speech for you--if you can afford it." |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #98 |
108. Everyone here can afford $1.95 |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. I can't, I have 67 cents to my name and I am also in need of other things I have no money for. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. ... |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #108 |
116. Sounds like something a Republican might say. n/t |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #116 |
125. I definitely do think replies should be free! |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
88. The bigger problem |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
91. He's not getting re-elected so it's rather useless at this point. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #93 |
102. so now after all else will that be the new strategy? |
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Mr Dixon (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
103. IMO |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
104. Coming from you, kentuck, this means something. |
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HappyMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
107. He hasn't lost my support or vote. |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
110. I am about as far left as one can get and I have reached the point where I no longer care. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
111. He lost progressives long ago. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #111 |
117. wait a minute: you actually think posts on DU are relevant re whether or not |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #117 |
123. What's relevant is that the President has failed to bring meaningful, positive change. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 10:12 PM Response to Reply #123 |
127. How is something that is false relevant to anything? |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
118. buh bye! to all those 'progressives' |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. I'm happy ... |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. and I am elated you are happy |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-13-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. We must all be Democrats... |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
129. Losing? How 'bout LOST. He was losing it way back during the health care debate. |
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Evasporque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
132. to who?.....nt |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-14-11 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
133. The minute a real progressive democrat steps up to the plate |
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