I Stand With Paul Krugman

[Ian David]

I Stand With Paul Krugman
http://other98.com/i-stand-with-paul-krugman/

Americans need to watch what they say.”
- Ari Fleischer, Bush Press Secretary (after 9/11)

Paul Krugman is being targeted by Donald Rumsfeld and the same Neocon McCarthyites that targeted the Dixie Chicks for speaking out – and we need to get his back.

Krugman had the courage to tell the truth on his New York Times blog:

What happened after 9/11 — and I think even people on the right know this, whether they admit it or not — was deeply shameful. The atrocity should have been a unifying event, but instead it became a wedge issue. Fake heroes like Bernie Kerik, Rudy Giuliani, and, yes, George W. Bush raced to cash in on the horror. And then the attack was used to justify an unrelated war the neocons wanted to fight, for all the wrong reasons.

Paul Krugman was right about our foreign policy after 9/11, and he’s right now. Paul Krugman told the truth about those who manipulated 9/11 for political purposes – but now the professional distorters want him to pay the price.

ENOUGH. We stand with Paul Krugman – join us if you’ve got Paul’s back too. Because we’re not going back to the days when Bush officials got to tell Americans what they can and can’t say.”



More:
http://other98.com/i-stand-with-paul-krugman/

[truebrit71]

1. Me too.

Signed and FB'd...

[spanone]

2. k&r....

[trumad]

3. Que the hand wringers....

[sabrina 1]

4. I sure don't stand with war criminal Donald Rumsfeld.

So this is easy. I'm with Paul Krugman who apparently managed to get under the skin of Rumsfeld, a major feat imo, since up to now, no one else has.

[CarmanK]

5. ME three! Paul Krugman was right to tell the truth!

[xchrom]

6. Recommend

[Hissyspit]

7. Done and re-Tweeted.

[hifiguy]

8. I will happily stand with Professor Krugman,

a man of honesty and integrity.

[Demoiselle]

9. I loves me my Paul Krugman.

Kicked and rec'd and whatever....

[johan helge]

10. Krugman: Nothing I’ve done in my life of which I’m more proud

Krugman (http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/12/more-about-the-911-anniversary/):

"It’s probably worth pointing out that I’m not saying anything now that I wasn’t saying in real time back then, when Bush had a sky-high approval rating and any criticism was denounced as treason. And there’s nothing I’ve done in my life of which I’m more proud."


Another great quote from the same blog post:


"It was a time when tough talk was confused with real heroism, when people who made speeches, then feathered their own political or financial nests, were exalted along with – and sometimes above – those who put their lives on the line, both on the evil day and after."

[Lydia Leftcoast]

11. Yup, and he deserves a Pulitzer to go with his Nobel

:patriot:

[lunatica]

12. I heart Krugman's mind

Sexy that.

[On the Road]

13. Perhaps Krugman Doesn't Have Finely Tuned Political Sensibilities

but on the other hand, there are an increasing number of people who agree with him. It was something that needed to be said by someone, and no one else was saying it.

[IcyPeas]

14. check out some of these quotes from repubs:

especially the bolded text:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/about-that-paul-krugman-allegation-of-911-shame/2011/03/03/gIQAdwBMNK_blog.html

[Douglas Carpenter]

15. indeed.. he spoke the self-evident truth so well and thoughtfully and with so few words

[adhd_what_huh]

16. I'd hit that..................

[madinmaryland]

17. I stand with Paul Krugman. K&R.

[Electric Monk]

18. K&R

&U&G&M&A&N :)

[in_cog_ni_to]

19. K&R!

[Luminous Animal]

20. Done and kick!

[woo me with science]

21. K&R nt

[joeybee12]

22. Me too...knr

[WillyT]

23. Me Too !!! - K & R !!!

:kick:

[Shagbark Hickory]

24. Krugman 2012.

Only thing I could think of

[Tuesday Afternoon]

25. +1

[Octafish]

26. Rumsfeld can't handle the truth.

Ask Cynthia McKinney. Then a member of Congress, McKinney asked Rumsfeld about war profiteering, corruption and missing trillions.

Like Krugman, she got "the treatment" Big Time for merely mentioning the neocons profited from 9-11.

[MissDeeds]

27. Ditto

K&R

[txlibdem]

28. It sickens me that the current administration isn't filing charges against any of the conspirators

Oops! I meant "Bush administration officials" - what a slip of the tongue?

And now they have the audacity to come out of their spider holes and cast stones? I call BS on that!

[Enthusiast]

80. PLUS ONE!.......nt

[txlibdem]

105. If the shoe was on the other foot what do you think would be happening?

By that I mean, if a Democratic President and Administration committed and approved murder and torture as a routine operation, the Repukes would be holding a million hearings and there would be hell to pay.

What does our current President say about institutionalized torture/murder/rape/etc? "I"m not going to look at the past, I'm going to look forward."

[Enthusiast]

118. It is dereliction of duty by Obama.

This is in direct violation of his oath of office. A President does not choose to ignore a war crime for the sake of political expediency. Or what ever other lame assed reason they can come up with.

I WAS an Obama fan, too, no more.

[txlibdem]

134. He sure was a smooth talker during the campaign, said everything we wanted to hear

Then he got elected and turned into a Republican, seemingly overnight.

But, what can I expect from a person who suddenly has a $10 Million net worth? Millionaires seem to think only of what will benefit millionaires and billionaires. Obama is no exception.

[Blue_In_AK]

29. I am almost always in agreement iwth Paul Krugman. n/t

[DirkGently]

30. Absolutely.

[tishaLA]

31. I saw a video from Fox today

of Megyn Kelly, with her sneer of doom, interviewing Brad Blakeman (chimp flunky) and Medea Benjamin of Code Pink discussing the stupid kerfuffle. It was pretty predictable, but the best part was seeing Ms Benjamin twice call chimp a "war criminal" on basic cable: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/megyn-kelly-hosts-fiery-debate-over-paul-krugmans-years-of-shame-911-column/

[Matariki]

32. Yay, another petition to increase the spam and donation pleas in my inbox!

Is there another way to show support for him than an internet 'petition'? Is he in danger of losing his job? Can we write letters of support to the NYT?

[tkmorris]

35. Of course you can. Please do.

[jumptheshadow]

33. He has spoken the truth for years...

with Bush and with President Obama.

He is a brilliant man, with the rare skill to write lively and clear prose about complex topics, and he has been RIGHT about almost everything he has ever shared with his readers.

[Greybnk48]

34. Me too. K&R

[Generic Other]

36. Hell ya!

Tell it Krugman!

[Jakes Progress]

37. Krugman is an honest man.

For this he will suffer at the wishes of those who live in lies and dishonesty. Those who treasure truth should stand with him and support Paul Krugman. Unless we totally lose our nation to the corporatists, the future will know him as one who recognized the truth and told it.

[FreeBillClinton]

38. Rec * 1000

[ejbr]

39. k & r !! n/t

[philly_bob]

40. Wonder whose side Pat Tillman would be on? (nt)

[disndat]

104. With Krugman, of course.

Tillman was killed for doing what Krugman did.

[philly_bob]

109. Exactly! (nt)

[Faryn Balyncd]

41. +10000000000000000

[Dawson Leery]

42. Some here ask why many of us have a great disdain for the country music establishment.

The reason for our disdain is the same reason we hold disdain for the neo-conservatives and their propagandists on hate radio.
They decided to use intimidation against their opponents after 9/11 as a means to get what they wanted in terms of policy.
The country music establishment and their fanbase(not all but a majority) (which, General Sherman would wholeheartedly agree that they are pure ignorant scum)turned on the Dixie Chicks specifically for Natalie Maines being ashamed that George W. Bush was from Texas.

Ironically, it was Merle Haggard who came to their defense (fully) and Alan Jackson (implicit).

Those artists who jumped onto the pro-censorship bandwagon are vile. I will never listen to them nor give them a penny if they are ever in need.
There is a tradition within the artistic community that everyone will defend the universal right of free expression. The country establishment opted against this tradition. I will pay no respect to these sorry excuses. Since the country establishment opted to entwine the beliefs and political preferences of Ms. Maines with the music of the Dixie Chicks, I will entwine their beliefs and political preferences with their music.

The pro-war, Bush bootlickers(who are now on the tea klan role, denying any of Bush’s wrongdoing including more than doubling the national debt):

Daniels (Charlie)
Evans (Sara)
Keith (Toby)
Lynn (Loretta) (She used to be quite liberal, what happened?)
McEntire (Reba) (Peggy Lee was producing her own material before this so-called "legend" and "leader" for women was born.
Owen (Randy)
Rich (John) (performed at the Massey Energy "Friends of America" tea party concert) (no friend of the working class)
Tippen (Aaron)
Tritt (Travis) (called for a boycott of the Dixie Chicks)
Tucker (Tayna)
Warren (Brothers)
Williams Jr. (Hank)
Wilson (Gretchen) (again, no friend of the working class)
Worley (Darryl)

If you are on the above list, I am not listening.

The power brokers on music row
The executives at Clear Channel
The majority of country music fans

http://new.music.yahoo.com/john-michael-montgomery/news/country-music-radio-full-of-pro-war-songs--12175256
"Worley, too, cited the Dixie Chicks' incident."

"They made a pretty strong statement about the president, and we haven't heard much of them on country radio either. There is a silent majority in this country, and it is a whole lot stronger than people might think."

[Enthusiast]

81. I'm with you.

I was disgusted that I had to watch Hank Williams Jr. open Monday Night Football this evening.

[Dawson Leery]

135. Thank you for your support.

[DeSwiss]

43. K&R n/t

[tex-wyo-dem]

44. Krugman is an intellectual, and we all know how much the RW...

fascists hate intellectuals...they pose a real threat to their power and wealth. It's no coincidence that intellectuals have been among those hunted down and eliminated in the face of totalitarian and dictatorial powers throughout history.

I stand behind Mr. Krugman! I stand behind the truth!!

[OwnedByFerrets]

45. K and R for the truth

[yardwork]

46. I stand with Paul Krugman. He was right.

[bhikkhu]

47. Ah well, he's irritated the heck out of me from time to time...but sure, I'm in

I'm not generally a fan, and I know just enough economics to think that he doesn't have the answer to quite few things, but the world needs more debate, not more silence. Krugman is a good one for an intelligent argument, and we could use a bunch more like him.

[Left Coast2020]

48. I Can't decide wheather I want Dr. Krugman to be in the Senate

with Professor Warren, or on the outside as he is now--calling it as he see's it. A damn good economist and one who should be on O's econ. team. to hell with those economists Obama has now. Krugman, Dean Baker, and yes, Robert Reich--they are who should be there instead of those freak'n crooks. I got your back Professor. Don't stop the fight!!!
:applause: :applause: :applause:

[sabrina 1]

51. He really knows how to get under their skin from where he is

right now. So, maybe he should stay there for a while longer. Rummy rarely loses his cool. Good for Krugman for making him lose it. I guess the truth hurts.

[DinahMoeHum]

49. Rumsfeld can go suck a big fat bitter lemon. . .

along with Bush/Cheney, etc.

[dflprincess]

50. I stand with him n/t

[benfranklin1776]

52. I stand with him also.

A great American. One of the few who in our darkest hours had the courage to tell the world the would be emperor had neither clothes nor functioning brain cells.

[Enthusiast]

82. The "world" already knew it.

Only Americans didn't.

[unkachuck]

53. K&R....n/t

[lady lib]

54. Don't apologize, don't back down.

nt

[City Lights]

55. K&R! eom

[wakemewhenitsover]

56. Big K&R for this intelligent, moral dude

:headbang:

[fishwax]

57. k/r

:kick:

[TwilightGardener]

58. K/R.

[rhett o rick]

59. Rec 173. I'm in. Do something on Sept 17, the day of outrage. Sit-in a Bank of America

branch, or your Congress-critters office. At least call you Congress-critters. The movement has started.

[jwirr]

60. I have stood with Paul Krugman since the first time I read his column. nt

[FirstLight]

61. done!

reposted to my fb too ;)

[Better Believe It]

62. Krugman's sin. He told the truth.

[xxqqqzme]

63. Count me in.

[hulka38]

64. K&R

[ProfessionalLeftist]

65. Done and shared

Americans don't need to "watch what they say" © Ari Fleischer - they need to say what they watch - and Paul Krugman does, whether Rumsfeld and his neocon buddies like it, or not.

Somebody needs to call out the truth. Sure as hell no one in Washington is doing it. I support Paul Krugman.

[ibegurpard]

66. that editorial was spot on!

[bluestateguy]

67. Krug's column yesterday was right on target

and I have been a critic of his in the past for his Obama bashing. But Krug was right on yesterday.

[pacalo]

68. Done.

[lonestarnot]

69. K & R! Speaks for me! and red rummy can eat shit and die in his basement for all I care.

[Evergreen Emerald]

70. I stand with you PK!

[Blue_In_AK]

71. 12,341 signatures

[harun]

72. Damn right I do.

[hay rick]

73. K&R

[Skittles]

74. HE ABSOLUTELY NAILED IT

KEEP STANDING, MR. KRUGMAN - SHOW DEMOCRATS HOW IT IS DONE

[krabigirl]

75. Krugman is great, these people are morons. nt

[wial]

76. does he really need our help?

My sense is he can run rings round those bozos any day, any time of day.

[chill_wind]

77. K & R.

[pokerfan]

78. Done

Billo jumps on the attack paul krugman bandwagon:

http://www.newshounds.us/2011/09/13/bill_oreilly_jumps_on_the_attackpaulkrugman_bandwagon.php

[Enthusiast]

83. Imagine that. Billo continues life as a dumbass. nt

[Enthusiast]

79. I'm with Paul Krugman! nt

[PatrynXX]

84. well it is america and don has the right to cancel

just like I have the right to read playboy :P

Course since they are false heroes. will Rudy wasn't until he used 9/11 for political gain..... the true heroes were the ones on the ground and not in the air (again Rudy was there, don't know what happened to Rudy but he's maybe gone senile like John McCain.

[sabrina 1]

127. Rudy was never a hero. It was shocking to see this authoritarian

little bully whose approval ratings were around 28% in NY at the time, and who was RUNNING from the bunker he stubbornly built at the Trade Center against all advice, turned into a hero on the morning of 9/11.

His constant disputes with people made him impossible to work with. But the most fatal of those contentious bullying disputes was with the NYC Firemen before 9/11 when he contracted for equipment that turned out to be faulty and refused to listen to the Firemen's request to replace it. As a result, the Firemen that day were using faulty equipment, which many of them blame for the deaths of so many. The Firemen despise Giuliani and do not want him at their memorials.

He did nothing heroic that day. He ran out into the streets, dazed but no doubt still unwilling to admit how wrong he had been to install the Command Center in a place that everyone warned him was a target of terror.

My thoughts watching on that morning were that he would probably, finally be held accountable for his actions. Instead many of us familiar with him, watched in horror as he and his police chief, Bernie Kerrik were turned into heroes. Since then he has done nothing but profit from the deaths of the victims of that tragic day.

I despised him before 9/11, but since then, all he has done is confirm why he earned the disdain of so many NYers.

He has zero shame and continues to profit from that day. He was far from being a hero. His behavior today is as it always was. Senility has nothing to do with it.

[Le Taz Hot]

85. Krugman was exactly right!

9/11 WAS exploited and continues to be -- why else would we be in Iraq, of all places, and Afghanistan? It was the excuse to place our military in the Middle East to protect "our" oil which is, unfortunately, underneath their country.

[mnhtnbb]

86. Right on, Krugman!

[PADemD]

87. K&R

[PuffedMica]

88. K&R

[Faith No More]

89. I used to believe that this country stood for truth and justice,

I now see that was just a myth. Krugman continues to say what needs to be said and I salute his courage and honesty. We've quite literally been nine elevened to death in this country by the "plastic patriots" who have used this terrible tragedy to further their own agendas. Never in my life did I ever imagine the American people would stand for the things this government has done.

[disillusioned73]

90. K&R

I stand with Mr. Krugman
:yourock:

[Highway61]

91. K & R

n/t

[Waiting For Everyman]

92. Done, and ty for the link.

[orbitalman]

93. K & R x 1000 n/t

[treestar]

94. We don't have to watch what we say

Well, barring threats to anyone's life.

No one's First Amendment rights are violated here. Krugman had his say and will not be imprisoned for it. Rumsfield had his say and has the right to cancel his subscription. Nothing to see here.

[TheUnspeakable]

95. signed, kicked and recced

[Chimichurri]

96. Krugman is a hero. Plain and simple.

[Honeycombe8]

97. No, I don't think he was quite right. I don't see things the same way. I don't

see things Cheney and Bush's way, either. But I think Krugman has an extreme view. Which he's entitled to.

[markpkessinger]

132. I take it then you believe FDR was an extremist, too? n/t

[jeaps]

98. Plain and simple

Paul Krugman was telling the truth and we can't take it. He was not disrespecting the 9/11 families or the first responders, he was stating plainly and simply how we took their suffering and turned it into a war on innocents for profit. We didn't go after the bad guys, we went after a country that had nothing to do with the attack. We allowed ourselves to be sold a bill of goods and then let those responsible walk away wrapped in a flag.

[bertman]

99. Proud to be REC #317. nt

[rbilick]

100. I agree with PK and he should be supported...

[angel823]

101. the light of truth

sends the cockroaches scurrying.

signed and fb'd.

Angel in Texas

[HuckleB]

102. K & R and signed.

[Major Hogwash]

103. Paul must have struck a nerve to get Rumsfeld to crawl out from under his slimy rock.

I can't stand Rumsfeld.
He didn't even know what guerrilla warfare was.
He didn't know what he didn't know when he didn't know what he didn't know.

Rumsfeld = total assklown!

[Raster]

107. Rumsferatu knows how to kill children... never his children.

The donald would have been a perfect with the Hitler set. He and Herr goebbels would have been fast friends.

[myrna minx]

106. K&R n/t

[timefortherevolution]

108. Many repugs know this...they're just used to a press that's kowtow'd to them

[otohara]

110. done

[Zambero]

111. I will never ever forget the despicable attack ads against Max Cleland

The former Georgia Senator was a decorated combat veteran who lost three limbs while serving during the Vietnam War. For this, televised Republican attack ads morphed him into Osama bin Laden. Cleland was portrayed as a terrorist sympathizer because he dared to object to certain provisions of the Patriot Act. Sadly, the libelous campaign was effective and Max was defeated in his re-election effort. Make no mistake about it, the far right saw 9/11 not as a terrible tragedy (that occured on THEIR watch, with THEIR pants down), but as a golden opportunity to be milked to the Nth degree for political gain. (Phony) patriotism -- the last refuge for scoundrels? There's no better example than the neocon Republican Party and the Karl Rove slime machine that aids and abets it.

[leveymg]

113. Cleland also was on the 9/11 Comm., but resigned in disgust over the whitewash of Bush's criminal

malfeasance. That's another reason the GOP hard-right and Bushies went after him.

[leveymg]

112. Krugman should have been Treasury Secretary, with Steiglitz appointed FedChair

The President wouldn't be finally calling for a jobs bill now, because that would have happened at the very beginning of this Administration, when we could have gotten one. But, we'd have to have a different President for that.

[TBF]

114. Absolutely. K&R nt

[onpatrol98]

115. Can't trust most economists as far you can throw them...their theories don't tell them enough

Isn't this the fellow that said NAFTA would have a trivial effect on us?

NYTimes Article:
1993

snip..
"Paul Krugman, a trade economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said that for the United States, the agreement is "economically trivial." Professor Krugman supports the treaty, saying he thinks it will help to keep free-market reformers in power in Mexico. He sums up the war of words this way: "The anti-Nafta people are telling malicious whoppers. The pro-Nafta side is telling little white lies." Well-Established Theories"

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/09/17/us/a-primer-why-economists-favor-free-trade-agreement.html

------------
snip...
The Clinton Vision: Update
Noam Chomsky
Z Magazine, January, 1994


"Noted economists supporting NAFTA made similar points about winners and losers, observing that the only negative consequences of NAFTA would be "a slight fall in the real wages of unskilled U.S. workers" (Paul Krugman) and ridiculing talk about job loss because "only union leaders and Ross Perot would be surprised to hear that the productivity ratio between U.S. and Mexican workers...is higher than the ratio of hourly compensation" (Gary Hufbauer). These scornful rebuttals forgot to add, however, that 70% of the work force is categorized as "unskilled," and that at comparable productivity levels Mexican wages are a fraction of US wages, kept that way by harsh repression, destruction of unions, and a huge army of unemployed.6"

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I don't care much for Krugman's opinion. I think he just likes to feel like he's the smartest man in the room. And, by the time, we figure out, that our "common sense" is worth more than his Nobel Peace Prize, his advice has doomed us. Unfortunately, we don't find out until years and later and the damage has been done. And, that snarky guy has done plenty of damage in what he's thought was good over the past 15 years.

I trust half of DU's opinion over Krugman's.

[nomb]

122. Agree. Krugman is an over-rated polemicist that jumped the shark a while back.

It's been framed as Rumsfeld Vs. Krugman, so no discussion is necessary.

I think Krugman is an over rated editorial writer who wears his Nobel on his sleeve as "proof" of his superiority over mere mortals - but I DO NOT find any fault with the Times for exercising their right to publish, nor do I see merit in Rumsfeld's call to punish the Time's for running it.


But DO NOT count me as a Krugman respector in any way..

[onpatrol98]

125. Point taken...

I can take Krugman better than Rumsfield...easily.

[shanti]

116. i'm in. n/t

[MoonRiver]

117. I proudly stand with Krugman!

:patriot:

[Fantastic Anarchist]

119. Count me in! n/t

[librechik]

120. Hell yes. Why isn't Cheney at The Hague? n/t

[stockholmer]

121. I completely stand with Mr Krugman on this issue

Rumsfeld, et al should be sitting in a war crimes docket.

[I hate liars]

123. We need more Paul Krugmans!!!

[diane in sf]

124. Signed, Krugman is telling it like it is and the fascists hate that.

[WildEyedLiberal]

126. I wish it were possible to sign these petitions without getting on an obnoxious mailing list

That's why I had to quit signing things at MoveOn and all the other liberal activist sites - you sign one petition and they spam your mailbox after.

I do stand with Krugman. I just don't want another activist group to spam me with a million emails.

[ooglymoogly]

128. When they try to stamp out the truth

democracy gets stamped out.

[davidwparker]

129. K&R

[Uncle Joe]

130. Kicked but too late to formally recommend.

Thanks for the thread, Ian David.

[markpkessinger]

131. Have followed Krugman's columns for years . . .

. . . and I gotta say, his analyses and predictions have been right a whole lot more often than they have been wrong. I'm happy to say I stand with Krugman!

[lindysalsagal]

133. On it. Thanks. I hope Faux makes Krugman more famous and repeats the attack

until people start to think about what Krugman's saying. I can only help wake people up.

[theophilus]

136. I stand with Paul Krugman and the TRUTH. n/t

[ibegurpard]

137. hmmm

seems i recced but forgot to kick...

[Bluebear]

138. Excellent idea :)

Kick