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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 04:00 PM
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Oh my... Comment on Dylan show
On why POTUS can't show much anger...The same point I made. that is the trap of the angry black man. I guess Keli saying it is ok...

Good that other people are speaking of this. But she is Black, so I guess it will be ok...in the world we live this is a real thing.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 04:03 PM
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1. I have thought that for a very long time....
the moment he gets angry - and say - acts like a Rick Perry - it will be all over. Obama knows it too.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 04:11 PM
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4. Yup and I mentioned the trap in a post here
That was deemed too controversial. He is stuck, as far as racist America is concerned, between the angry man and the submissive one. That's not an enviable position. I am glad that this is not just a random poster on a random board on the WWW noticing this.

We really need to talk of this nasty aspect in a mature way...but we are from post racial.

Suffice it to say, after that I know this belongs on my blog...
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 04:17 PM
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6. I think this supposition requires evidence he is holding back anger.
I'm not in a position to know...and I think few people are. Any evidence?

I have my own suppositions, and I think part of Obama's identity is the flexibility to be more like his opponents than his opponents expect. I suspect that this may disarm opponents and it surely would give him tremendous capacity for compromise.

It's exactly the temperament I'd want in a judge, I'm not sure it works very well with an intransigent republican party. But, then, I'm not certain anything would work with a party dedicated to obstruction.




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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 04:46 PM
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9. There is plenty of historic and circumstantial evidence
That points to this. Listen to her...
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 04:04 PM
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2. He doesn't have to get angry. He can start by just not agreeing with retubbies.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 04:09 PM
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3. I think anybody who doesn't believe this is a factor isn't being honest
about the amount of racism raging in this country.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 04:12 PM
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5. Yup...I am pleased it was adressed
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 04:19 PM
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7. I don't want him to be angry. I want him to lead and get things done instead of relinquishing to the
right all the time.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 04:45 PM
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8. Yup, but there is a reason he's not gone there
And it is not him...it is racist America.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 04:48 PM
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10. Then get Biden to jump down their throats!
Make him into a bully-pulpit-bull, I don't think it would take much. I have a feeling an angry Joe would wake some people up.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 04:52 PM
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11. Even that they haven't, I know...use surrogates
In the op they didn't like here, this is how it plays

Show anger...angry black man...surrogates do that.. You might still face it

Don't show anger..submissive black man.

The old rock and hard place come to mind. But the speech matter was a perfect example. The only thing missing in the letter and Rush's characterization was the word boy.

It is time people wake up to this.

So yes I was happy somebody else could say it.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 04:53 PM
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12. He does not have to go on a fist pounding tirade cussing up one side and down the other
to repudiate failed TeaPubliKlan policies and he certainly does not have to assimilate them regardless.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 05:01 PM
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14. That's not the issue and I agree
But people should be conscious of this.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 04:54 PM
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13. He can show passion...
Edited on Mon Sep-12-11 04:55 PM by kentuck
without getting angry. He can use humor to show just how petty they are. He is not unarmed.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 05:01 PM
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15. Agreed, but this is a sub rosa aspect people need to be aware off
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