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ThatsMyBarack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 11:50 AM Original message |
I blame THESE creeps for 9/11! |
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alsame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
1. And these: |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. Um, okay. I tend to blame the ones flying the planes, those who financed it, and the planners |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. So do I. I also hold American foreign policy responsible. |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Absolutely. We have no business effing around in other people's countries |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
37. Kind of like those 500,000 Iraqi children who died of entirely |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
55. Arm$, Energy, and Financial Corp$ are alway$ looking to expand |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. It would never have happened if Clinton's national security team had |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. You know that how? I think we all agree that Bush's team aside from Richard Clarke |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I know that by getting informed. |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. As "informed" as you are, you seem to miss that the Clinton administration |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. And because of that first attempt, Clinton put a system in place to prevent |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. That's quite a "system" they had in place: Allow hijackers into the country |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. We had rules back then that prevented the kind of scrutiny that takes place |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. But wait, I thought Clinton had a "system" in place to prevent future attempts |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. On the other hand, I only like Clinton 65% and I still see how he |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Overall I like Clinton about the same % you do |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. There were two of them on the watch list |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Well, if you call having the people in the country who are to launch an attack |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. The Clinton or any pre 911 administration let in people who |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Well, my statement was more in response to the context enumerated by someone else |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. If I blame Clinton for anything, it was his stupid fuck kumbaya belief |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
47. "...would have been successful to stop 9/11..." I don't think it's at all possible to prove that. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I'm keeping my comments to attacks on US soil, since that is what 9/11 was all about. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 09:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. LOL... that's a low bar you set. |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. As far as 9/11 never happening under Clinton's watch - |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. 100% agreed. nt |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. But not John O'Neill |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
50. Planning and implementing are two different things. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 09:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
62. You don't know that |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Hello? |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. So 9/11 was conceived and launched solely during Bush's tenure? |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. The chatter that took place in the months leading up to 9/11 was the critical period. |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Ahh I see, so Clinton did nothing wrong |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. Well you're denying and difference in the approach. |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. I'm not singling out the Clinton administration. I'm saying they share blame |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
51. When I look back and realize how much we would learn that the Republicans |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 10:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
59. Mukasey let the cat out of the bag. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. And they were known to the Intelligence Community. |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. So your contention is that the Clinton administration did nothing wrong |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I guess you have not read anything about the trials of those |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. I've read as much as is publicly available |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Well, any information that was a result of torture |
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TeamsterDem (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Yes, they were so vigilant they let the hijackers into the country. Super! |
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ThatsMyBarack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. Yes, exactly! |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. And the ones who didn't stop them after repeated warnings and briefings |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. I blame religion. All of them. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
5. I blame our own government for allowing it to happen. |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
9. i blame poverty and greed. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
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Cary Vonfused (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
14. I blame George HW Bush |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
19. Amen |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
21. Pasty faced mother fuckers..... |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
24. These effin' creeps |
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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
35. #11 is a whale...? |
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ThatsMyBarack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Oh, no! Not SHAMU! |
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pintobean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. They're chanting "free Willie" |
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sce56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
44. Maybe but if they were not successful maybe we would have had President Liberman in charge on 9-12 |
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Herlong (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. I Love You Guys |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #44 |
64. that's a creepy thought: a mopey Tartuffe instead of a merciless Vice Emporer Palpatine |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
54. right, the so-called spontaneous docker mob. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
57. Kicked&Recommended! |
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ThatsMyBarack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Thanks! |
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ThatsMyBarack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
61. Wow! |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
63. and for the massive deficit, and for the erosion of our civil rights, and violation of Geneva |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
65. I hate to say it, but a lot wouldn't have happened if Dems in Congress hadn't rolled over too |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
66. LOL!!! I remember that photo! |
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