OK, Feds, there's a "credible threat". STFU and deal with it

[liberaltrucker]

We don't need to know this. All you're doing is instilling
fear. Do the fucking job you were elected to do and if/when
you actually prevent something, feel free to dick wave to
your heart's content. Until then, STFU and do your job.

That is all. Good night.

[Lucian]

1. I totally agree.

+1

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. Perfectly said, my dear liberaltrucker...

Good night, sweetie...

:hug:

[Bluebear]

3. Could not agree more

[TwilightGardener]

4. I guess I'm the exception--I prefer to know about it.

[ThomCat]

7. There is a difference between "letting us know about it"

and inundating us with useless commentary and chatter about the merest suggestions and ideas about it.

[ecstatic]

9. The Feds aren't the ones chattering, it's the talking heads

and they talk about any and everything for ratings.

[bigwillq]

16. If it bothers folks so much

they're free to turn off the TV.

[Telly Savalas]

54. Maybe if more people did that, the talking heads would stop trying to be morons

[krispos42]

5. Exactly.

One thing you don't generally want to do is let them know that they are undone!

[badtoworse]

6. Unrecc'd for minimizing a potential threat to public safety

The government has an obligation to inform the public and seek public vigilance on this. Your post is beyond stupid.

[Logical]

11. So I guess you fell hook, line and sinker for all the Bush orange alerts. Gullible?

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[Logical]

20. True, the government love people like that. So does the military consultants.

[a la izquierda]

19. You beat me to it

Anyone handwringing here, today, better damn well have been doing it under Bush.

[Bluebear]

39. Oh? How can the public help on this? What are the names we are seeking?

Their descriptions? How is this vagueness helping us?

[ecstatic]

8. If the people on flight 93 weren't told about the other two planes,

that plane would likely have reached its target at the White House.

I think it's good that the public knows. It does a couple of things: It increases the awareness of citizens (sure, there will be a lot of false alarms and perhaps even some profiling, but it's worth it if it could stop the perpetrators from carrying out their plans). If these men truly are planning something, they must feel very nervous right now. They don't have the confidence they would have had if the plans were never revealed to the public.

[Parker CA]

10. +1

[Logical]

12. Please list off the terror deaths in the USA since 9/11. And all the false alarms.

[NYC Liberal]

18. Anthrax attacks. Beltway sniper attacks. To name two. nt

[Cali_Democrat]

21. You didn't list the false alarms.

They far outnumber the "terrorist attacks" since 9/11.

[NYC Liberal]

52. Of course false alarms outnumber attacks. Duh.

Uneventful car trips outnumber those that end up in accidents.
More people don't get cancer than do.

And why is terrorist attacks in quotes?

[Logical]

22. Wrong. Anthrax was not a foreign terrorist. No proof at all. And most think....

Muhammad initially wanted to kill his wife. And dismiss his prison writings about terrorism.

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. Terror is terror

I don't make a distinction.

There are plenty of domestic terrorists as well. One were observant people prevented a tragedy was the MLK day attempted bombing. It was, as you might remember, a bomb inside a SeSwiss backpack...a fully operational device.

[Logical]

27. Terror is terror? What a crock! So the 8000 handgun murders a YEAR count also?

Be scared all you want! I refuse to put up with them crying wolf!

[ecstatic]

30. Logical, why are you so biased on this?

It's not wise to live in fear, but it's also not wise to dismiss every threat right off the bat. It's called balance.

[Logical]

32. The hype is to keep us on edge and ok with the wiretaps and intelligence spending! I really...

Do think they want us worried.

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. If they want us worried you win and AQ wins

If they want us attentive...see Israel or the UK during the troubles then we win...

The bushes wanted us scarred...these guys...the jury is still partially out, but I get the cynicism.

[Logical]

36. I see your point. Maybe Bush just ruined me on this topic!

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. Yes they did...a lot of damage they did

Because they never, and on purpose, told you what to look for, and chiefly why.

I have a very limited exposure to anti terrorism. My hubby has a far more extensive...and many a times we have screamed at the tv for precisely that abuse.. So in an effort to counter this abuse.

1.- Yes there is a real threat out there, and it is not just AQ. There are people inside the us who will use terror to advance their goals.

2.- may sound trite but look for things out of place. Blame our training but in the 199s, before 911, we came this close to calling the cops for an abandoned backpack. We knew the person, we knew there were motives, and we knew he wasn't quite right.

3.- in a city a vehicle abandoned in a loading zone, or full of crap is out of place.

4.- any large package left in or near door ways. by package I mean bags, boxes, suitcases, including yes, computers.

5.- if you get a packet that has liquid oozing, feels oily or waxy to the touch, as a lot of postage for weight, or has an unknown or no return adress is suspect.

Oh and if you are near an incident... Get as far as you can from it.

[Logical]

48. Very good points! Thanks! Sorry for being grumpy last night! n-t

[nadinbrzezinski]

49. Oh no problem. As I said, I personally blame the bushes

For NOT handling this in a responsible manner. They decided to use to scare the pants out of people. In the process they changed the us, and AQ succeeded.

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. So a device left in the path meant to kill and maim is not terror?

As to gun violence...it is a form of terror indeed.

Now here is the trick and difference, the goal of the MLK bomber was to kill and maim, so technically not fully fitting the definition. The goal of AQ was to change the country, they succeeded.

For the record we have had terror before and it has not worked in the past. But the civil right movement was punctuated with terrorism.

[Logical]

37. I meant foreign terror. I think the MLK bomb was local racists. But I agree still terror!

[NYC Liberal]

50. Who said anything about foreign terrorists?

"Please list off the terror deaths in the USA since 9/11"

I did just that. I should also include abortion clinic bombings, since those are the very essence of terrorism.

Do you think terrorism is only terrorism if it's a foreigner doing it?

[ecstatic]

26. There were several. Shoe bomber, diaper bomber etc. but

I'm just neutral: I'm not afraid of terrorist attacks; yet, I don't tell myself that one could never happen. It could happen, but we can't live in fear--when it's our time to go... yada yada.

[Logical]

28. Neither of those killed anyone! It could happen. But not worth this hype.

[Creideiki]

43. Everyone who has died of a preventable medical illness definitely in the last two years

Terror inflicted on us by our elected class and Conservatives of both major political parties.

The goal is to keep the sheeple paralyzed with fear that the threat is OUTSIDE and not INSIDE. When do we declare conservatives and the CEOs of Health Insurance Companies enemies of the State and start locking them away from the danger they pose to the rest of America?

[emilyg]

24. +10

[DRoseDARs]

35. Except they were told by friends/family on their cellphones, not by gov't press release....

...and the fact that, well, their plane had been hijacked. They did the math; the federal government wasn't involved in the computation. Do not conflate their situation with official announcements like this, they have nothing to do with each other.

[gateley]

13. I heard Hillary say it's good to let people know because that

many more people may notice something amiss. I agree. Lieberman could have kept his mouth shut, though.

[Fuzz]

14. lmao, I was saying the same thing to my wife at dinner. They said 2 guys right?

2 fucking guys in a country of over 300 million? Screw them. Find them, shoot them end of story.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. If they told you what to look for

Which to their credit they partially did...there is. Role for you to play.
But, you knew this was coming...they have yet to truly do this, which s unhelpful at best.

[emilyg]

23. Unrec.

[Logical]

29. Gullible?

[emilyg]

38. I'm sure you would

have said the same thing on 9-10.

[applegrove]

31. I think it is good that the man on the street will have their eyes and ears open.

[Bluebear]

40. For what?

[applegrove]

41. It was healthy fear that got those vendors in NYCity to report Fisal Shizad's car bomb.

[Amonester]

42. Ding, ding, ding. ;-)

Good catch!

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. MLK day backpack...operational device

Here is the problem, Bloomberg has done better than most, but authorities mostly don't tell you what to look for.

[Missy Vixen]

53. I followed the "MLK day backpack" story till it faded off the radar screen

Let's face it, we live in Western Washington. I never did hear the resolution. Of course not. After all, I'm pretty sure it involved nobody from another country. Evidently, it had sufficient power/weaponry to injure or kill scores of people, but that's not important.

:sarcasm:

[nadinbrzezinski]

55. Guy is pleading guilty

Just this week...too lazy to look fer it...but I saw it here on du.

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[Mimosa]

46. K&R

LiberalTrucker, ITA!

[treestar]

51. OK, so transparency is not a concern

And you're not going to accuse the government of keeping secrets. And were not a fan of Wikileaks, right?

[demoblemocratic]

56. obama the fearmonger.

[gateley]

57. Did you want to add a sarcasm smilie, or are you honestly

insinaiting Obama is a fearmonger?