I can't watch 9/11 coverage...

[Avalux]

is there something wrong with me? I tried, for a few minutes, but it's too painful. I just can't do it. :-(

[liberalmuse]

1. Not at all.

I can't watch it, either, and I damn well won't.

[2banon]

7. Turn off the Tv and Do NOT listen to the Radio! Especially NPR

:thumbsup: Sunday, I'm celebrating a friends birthday and housewarming with lots of music jamming, bbq.. and if I'm not mistaken, I believe the subject will be entirely verbotten..

I couldn't even get listen to BBC news today without hearing World Have Your Say set up shop somewhere near ground zero, interviewing the "community"... turning the dial to another NPR or other alternative station, same damn thing. KPFA did a little bit of discussion closer to my perspective, but sadly even they seem to tout the Corporate Media's narrative enough to force me to turn off the radio and play cd's instead.

It's painful allright, but for much different reasons than how the mainstream narrative explains and frames the event.

That's what so damn painful, to me.

[Avalux]

17. The mainstream media narrative is insincere....

it would be more appropriate to not mention it, and then on Sunday, show video of the memorial without narrative. Silence.

[2banon]

33. agreed.... that certainly would be far more appropriate

it's like this event is all about them, really (the media). and they try to pretend they're only interested in how the communities, first responders, politicians, military, cia etc etc etc feel/think about it. it's a huge charade and it's fairly sickening.

[Surya Gayatri]

44. Yes, the blatant 24/7

exploitation is nauseating. Will they still be milking this for ratings in another 10 years time?
:puke:

[Rick Myers]

2. It really hurts!

I understand...

[Avalux]

23. ...

:hug:

[Lucian]

3. I'm not watching it because I'm so damn sick of it already.

And it's going to be dominating the news all f-ing weekend.

[SunDrop23]

25. My thoughts exactly (nfm)

[phylny]

50. Oh, I'm glad you said it. I'm sick of it too.

It's not that I don't mourn the loss of life, it's just that - how do I explain it without sounding like a horrible person? People die in terrible ways every day. I feel like all this coverage is only for the sake of making money.

[Lucian]

55. Worse happens every day.

I don't mean to trivialize 9/11, but like you said, bad things happen every day. Just because it happened in the US for some reason it's a bigger deal.

We should move forward, not dwell on the past.

[Bunny]

4. I won't be watching it, either.

It's still painful and scary, and you can count on our media to give it absolutely no dignity whatsoever.

[Generic Other]

5. It is like repeatedly picking open a raw wound

Bad enough when you can't stop doing it on your own, but it is doubly intolerable when the media tries to exploit our sadness in some orchestrated expression of national fake grief. It's like public prayer. It lacks conviction or sincerity.

[Lint Head]

6. I can't either. Too depressing. Considering Bush and Cheney used the

deaths of 3,000 people for political gain and as an excuse to torture, murder and destroy the Constitution. It's like reliving Pearl Harbor and other tragic events. The media is wallowing in it because they know most people will watch. Seeing people die between commercials is not my idea of a gratifying television experience.

[Avalux]

14. I can't stand to see any of their faces. Those who lied to us. n/t

[otohara]

57. I'll Never Forget - The Iraq Lies

that's what I remember most about 9/11 - and the massive world-wide protests that were ignored by Blair/Bush.

[SusanaMontana41]

8. Not a thing, Avalux.

We went through it the first time, and we didn't have to be in D.C., New York City or Shanksville to cry.

[Avalux]

22. No we didn't,

:hug:

[Golden Raisin]

9. Nothing wrong with you.

I'm in NYC and we've had a constant crescendo of media coverage for the last 2 weeks and it's close to the saturation point now, especially since the government announced the "credible threat". I lived through it 10 years ago. I don't need nor want to see the endlessly repeated footage of the planes, collapsing towers, victims jumping, etc. It's like reliving a nightmare. And speaking of nightmares, that SOB Bush is coming to the Anniversary Ceremony this weekend. Disgraceful!

[Avalux]

12. Oh,,,,,

:hug: I know....

[NYC_SKP]

10. I'll be on a cross-country flight on Sunday. Hope to miss all the coverage.

I'll be in New Orleans for four days...

:party:

[2banon]

31. self delete - posted to the wrong thread (sheesh)

[Mimosa]

45. Enjoy my old hometown, NYC_SKP

Enjoy the restaurants, the zoo, the Garden District...

Have you been to Jean Lafitte Park and the Bayou Coquillle across the river?

[NYC_SKP]

54. I haven't been to the park or the Bayou, wish I'd gone in May when we had a car.

This trip I hadn't planned on having wheels, so if these two features are some distance away I'll probably miss them.

But it would be fun to take in the zoo, I didn't go before.

We did go to the Garden District and were staying in the French Quarter so got a belly full of all that.

Still, I'll go every night back over there to take in Marlon Jordan (at the Bombay Club on Conti) one or two nights and some other entertainment elsewhere.

:hi:

[ThatsMyBarack]

11. Good for you!

I watched 9/11 coverage on Dateline tonight. Every time I see ANYTHING 9/11 related, I think of the Florida recount.

IF ONLY the votes for Gore had been counted....

[DeepModem Mom]

13. Family members told me the same at different times today. And I can't watch.

Each of us had particular connections to 9/11, having to do with people, and place. That day will always be with us; reliving it is, as you say, painful. I plan on watching the ceremony that marks the anniversary, remembering those lost, and honoring so many who had such selfless courage. But watching taped replays of the event itself, even hearing the horror of the story retold, I can't do.

[Avalux]

18. We all do....

and I can't relive it. :hug:

[Pirate Smile]

15. I started explaining more details to my 13 year old daughter a couple of weeks ago. It came up

for some reason. I can't remember why exactly. My kids knew it happened but just in a very basic way. I started explaining that day, almost step by step but started crying once I got to the firefighters and all the people jumping alone and in groups from the top floors.

You know how sometimes you can maintain your composure until you have to actually explain verbally to someone what happened and then it is as if you can not say it without crying. It was just like that and it's been 10 years. I was a bit surprised but I shouldn't have been. There is a reason we don't go around talking about such painful things - to much pain & heartbreak.

Gawd, it was just so unbelievably horrible.

I am very relieved that at least we can go into this decade anniversary without having to deal with the "and OBL is still out there" crap anymore.

[Avalux]

20. I was thinking about Pearl Harbor......

there was no playing of the events over and over again....and I don't recall my grandparents every talking about '10 year media events' surrounding it. I am angry at the media for expointing such a painful event that should be dealt with privately, as you did with your daughter.

And yes, at least they don't have the OBL angle anymore. He's GONE.

[Pirate Smile]

27. Your Pearl Harbor reference reminds me of how the WWII vets never talked about what happened until

the 90's or so when some books came out - Brokaw's Greatest Generation springs to mind. Telling what happened when it was horrific is just not something we are programmed to do. Denial & avoidance are some pretty good survival imagine.

[bettyellen]

51. they didn't get upscale book contracts is all. they talked, had hundred of books published prior 90s

they were just special interest books, it wasn;t all this rah rah war bullshit. but vets themselves had a lot to say, and read for 25+ years before Browcaw got in on it.
Anyplace that sold books had a hug WW2 section throughout the whole seventies. I know, my Dad and uncles read em all, and there were constantly new ones. They were a big thing.

[TwilightGardener]

16. I tuned it all out long ago. I understand

that those who were involved in some way need to remember it, honor those they lost, and that's fine, but there's no sense in my reliving something I only experienced on TV to begin with.

[a la izquierda]

19. No, I can't either.

Unfortunately, DU has a ton of crap on it to (not a slam at you or your thread). I want to scream "Listen, I already had to deal with this day once. Why relive it?" I didn't lose anyone and it's still incredibly painful. How must victims' families feel?
Jeez, atrocity porn.

[Avalux]

21. ...

:hug:

[Fuzz]

24. I see it, think of all the money wasted, the fear, our diminished rights and can't help thinking we

lost to a few fucking religious zealots in fucking tents halfway around the world who barely have electricity.

It's pathetic.

[ozone_man]

26. It's idiotic.

The cult of fear that fosters perpetual wars against non-Christian, brown people with oil.

[Blue_In_AK]

28. I can't watch

because I don't know what to believe. So much hype, so much cover-up. Who knows what really happened and who was responsible? I'm very sorry for the families who lost loved ones in the attacks, but commemorating their deaths in this way (especially considering all that's been taken from us in their names) is unseemly. How many Iraqis and Afghanis do we have to kill to get even? Why do they want us to get all patriotic about being the biggest bullies on the planet?

[bigwillq]

29. So don't.

We all have choices.

It's that simple! :)

[2banon]

32. part of the benefits of a forum bound with others of a common purpose is to also

find a means to express feelings and thoughts on a broad range of issues and concerns, in this case an event that was certainly a national benchmark in our common history and when one is feeling particularly isolated or alone wrt to certain feelings and thoughts, such as this one, it's comforting and certainly a bit less depressing to have one's perspective acknowledged, understood and perhaps shared by others.

So, while i think everyone understands that they do have a choice, it's a choice that's going to require some measure of planning and organizing in order to completely avoid the media blitz on this subject for the next several days and perhaps week or longer.

Helpful suggestions on how to completely avoid tv, radio and newspapers, day in and day out for the next week or two might be a welcomed contribution.

[bigwillq]

52. You can't completely avoid it.

You may walk down the street and see a newspaper headline, flip through the TV and see something, etc.
But you can choose not to read that newspaper, not watch anything about it on TV and not post on message boards that may be discussing the event.
Yes, it'll take some work, but it's possible.

[OhioBlue]

30. No - there is nothing wrong with you.

I feel the same way. I did attend a memorial service today. I can respect that. It was filled with firefighters and police officers. I feel very comfortable attending a memorial service for those that lost their lives. What I don't feel comfortable about is the media blitz on everything 9-11. It feels gross and wrong and I am avoiding it.

I will never forget 9-11... but I don't want to relive it. I remember how I felt on that day, the weeks and months afterward and I remember how my honest and true feelings along with my countrymen were exploited by the Bush Administration. I remember how hate groups capitalized on them... I remember how our Country was brainwashed into going into two wars because of our emotions over 9-11... That part makes me sick... that part makes me distrust all they hype... it is awful to feel this way.. I know... but it is what it is.

[defendandprotect]

34. Totally ignoring 9/11 -- until they begin to tell the truth about it .... "Inside Job" --

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

40. Or at least do a truly independent, thorough and fully funded investigation

into three things:

1. The events leading up to 9/11
2. The events on 9/11, including actions taken by all appropriate government agencies and entities
3. The consequences of 9/11, e.g., we've lost our right to habeas corpus and no one seems to care anymore.

Bush/Cheney fought tooth and nail for an entire year having any kind of investigation of 9/11. Once a commission was set up they rigged it to get the results they wanted by limiting its scope, installing a flunkie as chairman, underfunding it and blocking every attempt of the commission to do its job. I mean, being prevented from putting Bush and Cheney under oath independently to get their testimony? What kind of investigation is that?

[defendandprotect]

46. There are hearings being held in Toronto now on events of 9/11 --

International --

Here -- you can watch live -- and you can catch up via their archives --

Haven't had a chance yet to wsatch it myself --


Agree re the rigging -- remember when W tried to put Kissinger in charge of the

Commission? That's how much they had to hide that they needed a criminal like

Kissinger to cover for them! Then Keating resigned --

Then they faked it with Kean --

Spent all of $15 million it!



The Toronto Hearings


This is the official broadcast site of the International Hearings on the Events of September 11, 2001, at Ryerson University from Sept. 8 to 11, 2011. The official website of the Hearings is:
http://torontohearings.org/

US Steam is also carrying it --

[pa28]

35. Me neither.

I imagine watching a segment on NBC showing the scenes we remember all too well overlaid with a vomit inducing narrative. No thanks.

[tblue]

36. No. The media is bordering on exploitaton.

I won't be watching either. Won't even turn on the tv on Sunday except to watch a ballgame.

[Beam Me Up]

41. Bordering? They were over that border from day one. n/t

[XemaSab]

37. I think it's something

that everyone needs to take their own approach to. :pals:

[DesertFlower]

38. i can't watch either. i have a lot of

old law & order re-runs recorded along with several movies.

[Capitalocracy]

39. Just shut off the TV and play NWN for the next couple days.

;)

[gordianot]

42. Listening to Lee Greenwood and watching Guliani sneer is too much for me.

It seems Bush is coming out of the bushes which makes me physically ill.

[Raine]

43. No there isn't but for me whether I watched or not I'm still so depressed. nt

:cry:

[Dorian Gray]

47. Nope.

I live in NYC and feel the same way. I want to move on and not relive the day. I was here for it. Luckily I didn't lose any close friends or family, so I don't live with that pain every day. The memory of watching it in person is more than enough for me. I don't need to see constant footage on television.

[Tennessee Gal]

48. I am having trouble with it too.

I have no trouble mourning the loss of those brave Americans. What I have trouble with is that it was the beginning of the downfall of ideals held as honorable by this country. And it was the beginning of the economic downfall perpetrated by the idiotic Bush/Cheney policies.

[DCBob]

49. Me either. its a total downer to me.

I wish they would just keep it in the history books.

[jimlup]

53. Why would you even want to?

The media coverage is so sappy sweet you might go into a sugar comma. Plus most of us have those images burned into our brains anyway - we don't really need to watch the "coverage".

It's all propaganda - little or no substance.

[TheManInTheMac]

56. Nothing wrong with you.

It was a very bad day and the wounds are still raw for a lot of people. For some it is cathartic, for others it is caustic. I'm going to keep my wife busy this weekend, because it still upsets her too much.

[MorningGlow]

58. I don't need reminding

That's for sure. I remember it all too clearly, thanks very much. :(

[Richardo]

59. If they're selling commercial time, I can't think of much that's more ghoulish.

So I'll remember on my own terms. I don't need to be sold Pringles on the deaths of 3,000 people.