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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 11:47 AM
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What if solar energy received the same subsides as fossil fuels
From Roger Ebert's Journal
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/science-and-not/what-if-solar-energy-received-.html


Apologies if it was posted before.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 11:48 AM
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1. I'm getting a $5,400 federal tax credit for my solar project this year
And I'd like to personally thank everyone who pays US federal taxes for chipping in to help me out.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 11:50 AM
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2. I would love it if we did
Edited on Fri Sep-09-11 11:51 AM by supernova
I'd go solar in a heartbeat.

edit: Even with current subsidy levels the initial outlay for a system is still too steep, which is why I'm out of the market, alas. I need more than a tax credit. I need a way to perhaps lease to own at cost. Pay for it over say five or six years.
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razorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 11:52 AM
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3. The main reason we don't have abundant solar energy now is that
they haven't figured a way to put a meter on the sun.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 12:01 PM
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4. Absolutely, switch to solar! K & R
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 12:33 PM
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5. A great point that should be brought up more often.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 12:36 PM
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6. What if lots of American voters and politicians didn't have shit for brains?
We'd also be on the metric system. A way easier system. And we'd have spent money on battery research. And infrastructure.

I don't have the time for typing. But in the 80's I had a material science professor who had spent a month or so roaming the US with the DOT, taking photos of the bridges that were deteriorating. The 80's!!!
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 12:44 PM
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8. In the early 1990's I inspected deteriorating bridges for VDOT
Not one was ever repaired/replaced.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 12:56 PM
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11. Exactly.
Problems of corrosion are systemic and very expensive.

I honestly think it's all about military spending now. That's a lot of voodoo money going down the drain. I say for the money, let them have us if they want us. Spend the money on productive things.

But you knew all of that.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 12:42 PM
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7. What if Solar and fossil fuels split the subsides equally? nt
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 12:46 PM
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9. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, FSogol.
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 12:53 PM
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10. Let's hope common sense kicks in soon.
We live off the grid, so no subsidies, but just knowing that we aren't dependent on a decadent infrastructure is very refreshing.

If we kicked in to solar/wind half of what we pay to subsidize fossil fuels, this country would be back on top with a firm footing, instead of being on the brink of a very slippery slope into a new dark age.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 01:07 PM
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12. Highway robbery!
--imm
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 01:20 PM
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13. You get fraud-failure. FBI raids bankrupt solar venture Solyndra
Investigation comes just days after the Obama-backed solar panel maker files for bankrupcy -
http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/09/technology/solyndra_fbi
The company's factory was built with a $535 million loan backed by the Department of Energy
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 06:59 PM
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14. or as agro-business, the pharmaceutical industry, the
health insurance industry or the military?
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