Whoever Says the Word “Jobs” the Most Times Wins

[McCamy Taylor]

I will keep this short and sweet. America is either out of work, knows someone who is out of work or has a relative who is out of work. America wants jobs. Right now, America is like that Larson comic strip called “What we say to dogs/ What dogs hear”---except replace the name with the word “jobs.”



So, how did the two parties’ candidates do last night and today?

Romney lead the GOP contenders with 11 “jobs”. No surprise since Romney has decided to skip the primary and go straight for the general election. Perry and Bachmann, who are still pandering to primary voters tied for second place with 7 “jobs” each. Everyone else came up short.

Note that the cumulative effect of all these “jobs” was countered by a single Democratic ad, which repeated the word “jobs” over and over again---except, the Democratic ad called them JOBS in the kind of voice that you expect from the guys at Epic Mealtime when they say the word BACON (warning don't watch the following video if you are a vegetarian)

http://youtu.be/phx6Jxc7y2s

and just in case the audience was hearing impaired, the Dems flashed the word JOBS across the screen every two or three seconds.

Nice.

Obama won by a landslide with his 37 “jobs” (what a man!), and that’s not counting euphemism like work and employment.

Now, it is one thing to say the word "jobs". I could hire a parrot to repeat “jobs, jobs, jobs” from now until November 2012, and it would not win (at least I hope it wouldn’t). Not everything that calls itself “jobs” is actually jobs.

Here were the Republicans proposals:

1. Cut the corporate tax rate (Santorum, Perry, Cain): nope that does not create jobs. That just makes more profit for corporations to do whatever the hell they want with it.
2. Abolish health care reform (Bachmann): this one only creates jobs by killing workers which means their positions will be vacant
3. Abolishing all regulation for energy producers (Bachmann, Gingrich): a bit of a stretch. I guess more air pollution will create openings for respiratory therapists, but that will be offset by the tourist industry workers who will be out of jobs when Exxon has an oilspill in the Florida Everglades.
4. “Make the economy work/get going again” (Huntsman, Romney): A circular argument. The economy is in the toilet, because we have no jobs and no money to spend at Wal-Mart.

Here are the Obama proposals:

1. Tax break for companies that hire new workers: will work if the companies actually need workers but have not been hiring because they are too poor, so yeah, it might help.
2. Payroll tax deductions: will pump more money into spending, but only for middle class and lower income folks.
3. Infrastructure investment: will make jobs if they can find projects to start right now.
4. Extending unemployment benefits: see number 2.


So, remember folks, just because they call it “jobs” that does not mean it makes jobs.

Clear winner this week: Obama.

[zippytheplatypus]

1. distractions

Bunch of sellouts on both sides. One creates meaningless propaganda and the other goes insane over it and eventually bows down to it. Try getting some of these guys to talk about campaign finance reform or Fed policy.. You will notice the Wile E Coyote hole in the door three seconds in.

[obxhead]

2. I couldn't give a shit which politician "won" the debate on jobs.

It needs to be us that wins, not any of these highly paid politicians.

[Tx4obama]

3. The most talked about issue will have to be something other than jobs in 2012

Because the MAJORITY of Americans already have a job, as opposed to the minority that do not.
So, all the people 'with jobs' are not going to want to be listening to everyone talking about 'jobs' everyday for the next 14 MONTHS till the election.

Just my two cents.

[McCamy Taylor]

11. What people do you know? The ones I know all have someone close to them who is struggling

with unemployment. And the ones with jobs are scared shitless that they will be laid off and unable to find another job. They work when they are sick, because they can not afford to lose their job. They work to support their unemployed grown up children. Even nurses are worried and clinging to their jobs, and nurses have traditionally had full employment. And I live in north Texas, which is supposed to be the mecca for jobs in this country

[TK421]

4. Can't we all wake the fuck up and agree that speeches are just meant to appease?

I can't fucking STAND IT when I see people fawn over a fucking speech...Holy Fucking Christ, when will people fucking understand that these things are meant to keep the general public from fucking rioting about the state of affairs in this country and not have anything to do about the general content? Holy shit, America...wake the fuck up why dont you?


By the way, if you disagree with this sentiment, then this was a speech too

[tblue]

6. Oh TK421....

:hug: May I quote you? Seriously! I've been saying that for a couple of years now. I can barely stand to listen to any more speeches. One thing I will say for this one though: At least he admitted he's going after Medicare and, if you really pay attention, Social Security (by extending that "payroll tax holiday"). Should be 100% taboo!

[TK421]

7. heh, hugs to you, too!

:hug: I'm growing tired of words, I really am, and it really pisses me off how many people ARE NOT tired of them.


Stranger In A Strange Land

[McCamy Taylor]

12. He did not admit he was "going after" anything. That is a GOP talking point that

I really hate seeing at DU. The House went after Medicare. They tried to abolish it.

Note to Obama: be sure to insert the word "save" every single time you mention SS and Medicare, or else the GOP will continue to spew its Big Lie.

[Jim_Shorts]

14. Couldn't agree more

Words are the tools of the politician, thats ALL they do.

Like they said in Jerry Maguire "Show me the money"

[hfojvt]

5. but only for the middle class and lower income folks?

Huh? Does that mean you are not counting the 46% that goes to the richest 20% as part of the stimulus, or you think that none of the tax cut goes to the rich?

On the other side, the bottom 60% only gets 27% of the tax cut.

Clear loser this week - the bottom 60% that Obama obviously does not represent.

[Demeter]

8. Second that notion

Feel like Eliza Doolittle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8zyF0ZOy3k

[Taitertots]

9. None of the Republican's "jobs" proposals create jobs,

Republicans:
1. The long and short term profit maximizing levels of production don't change when corporations get tax breaks. Profits increase and firms don't change their operations. Because they would still be making less if they hired more people
2. Cutting government spending causes less jobs and less overall production.
3. Negative externalities associated with this mean it is a net loss. The long term costs associated with this mean it is literally costing us lost lives, lost land, lost money, and lost jobs.
4. Meaningless aphorism

While Obama's plans would actually work if and only if both houses of congress had their shit together.
1. This actually changes the long term profit maximizing levels of production. Therefore it will cause firms to hire more people.
2. I'm not certain about the net effect of this. If the government has to decrease spending to pay for this it will be a net loss. If it is paid for from increased taxes on the rich it will be a huge positive gain. If the government borrows to pay for it, it will have a positive effect now and negative effects later. If the money is cut from any other program it will dramatically reduce the effects.
3. The best way to create jobs is by directly creating jobs.
4. See #2, the net effect is hard to determine, depending on other factors.

[Free Tibet 2011]

10. For some reason

I was reminded of Allen Iverson's interview where he used the word "practice" repeatedly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

[Silent3]

13. When a Republican mouths the word "job" it shouldn't count...

...if it's part of the canned rhetoric of referring to the megarich as "the job creators", who apparently need even more tax breaks and more deregulation to motivate them to dole out a few more jobs, maybe even a few jobs in this country, once they're sufficiently placated.

For every 1 point awarded for saying "jobs" in any other context, I'd subtract 3 points for every "job creators".