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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 09:49 PM Original message |
Is 'Sister Wives' Hiding The Disturbing Truth About Polygamy? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. I think there are all different kinds of polygamy |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. Kody Brown is not part of the FLDS |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
25. Now, that's a good point. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
45. but he is (as I understand it) part of a fundamentalist LDS sect |
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hamsterjill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
48. That is a good point! |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. What's the difference between what he & his wives are doing |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Legal binding contracts? Protection of assets? Just to name a few of the benefits of marriage |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. What's it to you if consenting adults want to live this way? |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. Nope. Legally. Binding. Contracts. That's what this is about. |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Actually, you are making a broad brush statement |
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YellowRubberDuckie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
75. What I don't get is why get a marriage license and file it? |
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Lionessa (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. Mr Brower doesn't seem to understand that his key word is "fundamentalist," not polygamy. |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. What are the statistics for one woman with more than one husband, |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I'm waiting to hear those stats too. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
30. Polyandry is more rare historically but is far from unknown |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #30 |
47. In Nepal, it's practiced to keep family land from being divided |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
68. Really |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. It's akin to the debate about the burka, IMO. |
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Lionessa (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Exactly. As a slender, somewhat busty woman, I got tired of the attention I recieve |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Sorry, all women must display what we demand they display |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 02:18 PM Original message |
You are not dressing to erase yourself from society by being shrouded in a voluminous tent |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
79. Not to pick a nit here, but technically you were being forced to dress this way because |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 12:36 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. When you are told you are worthless and ugly long enough |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Or maybe they are told that they're so precious and beautiful... |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
60. But if they want to live in our culture, they will be expected to adhere to our cultural expectation |
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Lionessa (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
50. OR as I mention above, a person with fine personal esteem, simlply gets tired of the |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 07:26 AM Response to Reply #16 |
85. Hey |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
28. I don't like the idea that the solution to the oppression of women... |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
39. By default if you are a fundamentalist, you are stupid |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
52. It points out the hypocrisy of the left |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. The 'Sister Wives' family is NOT in a cult like the Jeff's cult. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. i am thrilled they are "allowed" to go outside. good for daddy, to allow them |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 07:29 AM Response to Reply #18 |
86. Actually |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
89. the women attracted to these situations are similar to cult members |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. For a NAU sociology class I interviewed a women who lived in Short Creek/Colorado City in the 1980s. |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 12:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. You've really nialed it when you say |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. If you counted the miscarriages (she did) |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
54. I mention the miscarriages only because some might doubt that 16 kids were possible. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. really, i didnt bat an eye. i know a lady who had 14. that is all full term. |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. I didn't question it. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. whoops, duped myself. |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
10. I don't understand why that little creep isn't in jail. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. He hasn't had any charges stick |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
74. For doing what? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-08-11 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
11. That TV program is as unlike what Jeffs was doing as one could be |
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nenagh (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 12:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I don't know can I reply without an understanding of the groups involved.. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
46. Here's the Wiki article |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
61. I challenge you to read "Under the Banner of Heaven" by James Krakauer. (shudder) nt |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 02:57 AM Response to Original message |
17. I've watched the show, a couple of the wives have a |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 07:13 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. an indication tht it is control and dominance and woman submissive and subservient |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. +1 |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
33. I think there are two seperate issues here: |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. lol |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. The harassment comment was in reference to law enforcement |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. ah... |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. He works full-time and three of the four wives |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. giggled at editing comment |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Because it's illegal for them to consider themselves "married" |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Do you have a cite for that? In some states with 'common law marriage' |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Check out the UT & TX bigamy statutes nt |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Thanks! I checked out the Utah statute. Maybe that is why they moved |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. They are already married to one person. |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I referred to common law marriage for the states such as Maryland |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. I did not know that. |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. You'd think someone would have to do a bit more than that to be charged with a crime |
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lindysalsagal (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
70. Reality show volunteers deserve whatever harassment they generate. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. Including losing a long-held job |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
29. That's a good point! |
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CanonRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
20. I don't have a problem with multiple partners |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
21. I think it's absurd to equate the two. |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
22. Is there a reason why women don't take multiple husbands? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. 1. It is illegal. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. It is legal for any number and type of people to live in voluntary association... |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. I should have read your post before adding my own upstream |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Polyandry does happen, though not as often as polygyny worldwide |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
69. because it would be way too much work! |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
71. MiddleFingerMom posted this in the Lounge a few months ago... |
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onpatrol98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #71 |
87. Lol... |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
82. In Mormonism it's because women can not hold the priesthood |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
32. we evolved from polygamist animals. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
72. Do you have proof? |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. Interesting question |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. . |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. I don't know |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
35. Did "Cheers" Hide The Disturbing Truth About Alcoholism? |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
38. Sounds like ethnocentric moralizing. There's no child abuse or misogyny in "traditional" marriage? |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
44. One wife has been more than plenty for me. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
64. When women don't have a choice or control of their lives, it's wrong. n/t |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-09-11 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
77. I don't understand why people want to hurt this family. |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
84. I've seen this show, and it's not women being oppressed. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. EXACTLY. I'm not sure how that dork found one woman to marry him, let alone four. |
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