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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:15 PM
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If "bitch" is considered sexist language, wouldn't "sons of bitches" also be?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:15 PM
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1. I'm only stopping by here for a moment on my way to a non-locked thread
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:16 PM
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3. YOU WANT I SHOULD KICK SOME IBTL ASS, ORREX??
I CAN DO THAT YOU KNOW
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:16 PM
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34. ROFLMAO !!!
Gawd I Love You...

:loveya:

:rofl:

You go girl!

:evilgrin:

:bounce:

:hi:
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:17 PM
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4. ...
:rofl:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:28 PM
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19. Genius!
:rofl:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:13 PM
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32. oops wrong spot
Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 09:13 PM by TwilightGardener
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 08:42 AM
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47. tell it to Romulus and Remus. n/t
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:16 PM
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2. Sons of female dogs is sexist? n/t
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:17 PM
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5. Daughters of bitches just sounds weird n/t
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:17 PM
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6. No. the latter is the same thing as saying 'assholes', 'jerks', 'buttholes', etc. n/t
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dogknob Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:19 PM
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10. Dunno, but 'pickle-sitter' is definitely out!! n/t
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:28 PM
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18. Don Rickles is on Jimmy Kimmel tonight.
I wonder if he will talk about playing "hide the pickle" on his program.
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:17 PM
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7. Good grief!
:popcorn:

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:18 PM
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8. as is about every other thing (motherfucker) used to insult males. the true insult is maline them
with female.

beyond that... meh
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:23 PM
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13. You'll be happy to know I use the following to insult males
ballsack
asshole
shitsicle
donkeyass
numbnuts
dickweed

I could go on if you want an extended list of non-sexist insults at my disposal.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:37 PM
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22. high five and
good for you.

asshole about covers it for me.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:27 PM
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35. Hey, watch it there
Behind every great man, there is an asshole.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:12 PM
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36. ha ha ha
you are so funnnnnneeee.

hey

women, too.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:18 PM
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9. Well it isn't.
Similarly, calling a cat a pussy is not sexist.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:20 PM
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11. One is a person the other a pod.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:21 PM
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12. *
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:23 PM
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14. I always preferred calling him Dad, instead of MotherFucker
Plus it's hard to find the MF cards on fathers day.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:24 PM
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15. Well, for me....
whenever I hear that phrase, I always think of sons of female dogs.

Whereas referring to a female human as a bitch is sexist


IMO.

:)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:25 PM
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:28 PM
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17. Yes maybe we should be nicer to our rightist overlords.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:29 PM
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20. no. those would be puppies. eom
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:35 PM
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21. I'm Slow ,fleabaggers should feel fortunate to be called Anything....
Inner-bred xenophobe assholes!!!
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:41 PM
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23. My mama said, "don't call girls that name, you rude SOBs."

Highlight of my young life.
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jdadd Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:41 PM
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24. Be careful.......
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:43 PM
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25. Not cozy biparisan sounding enough for your moderate ears?
Who cares?
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 08:21 AM
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46. I think everyone who posted in this thread...
must care in some form or another...otherwise, why bother?


I dunno. Maybe it's just me, but I ignore/hide threads I don't care about.

Why do people waste their time on things they say they don't care about?


:shrug:

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:58 PM
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26. Where does that leave bastards?
I dunno. I hear guys calling each other "bitch," and I hear them calling women "dude."

Language is always evolving. Context is where the determinations are made in many instances.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:04 PM
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28. Where does it leave them? Left out. As usual.
Poor bastards.

:P
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:11 PM
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31. Ha ha!!
Poor miserable bastards!!!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:04 PM
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27. You have a point
I've never really objected to "bitch" and son of a bitch still brings that in.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:07 PM
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29. I'm a Professional Son of a Bitch!! Don't fuck with me!!
:P

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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:10 PM
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30. Female dogs? Then you better tell the Dog SHow announcers who throw that word around quite often.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:14 PM
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33. Now you're messin' with a son of a bitch.
Don't do that. Let us have something.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:17 PM
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37. Dunno. "Bitch" was a term of endearment for me. Son of a bitch was just a curse.
I don't think I'd ever call a stranger a "bitch," but whenever I've used the word, it's always been an affectionate phrase to a woman who had done something I thought of as bold and not "nice" in terms of societal expectations. Always a compliment, and always taken that way. Though I do remember shocking my mother once calling my then-spouse a "bitch." She was twice as shocked when Spouse smiled at me for it.

There's only word I'll never use under any circumstance--the N word. Won't even quote it. There are two others I'd never use about a human being--one starts with F, one with W. I may say the word in other contexts, but never in the context they are famous for. Every other word to me just depends on the connotation. I'd never call a woman the B word as an insult, but I still use the word in other contexts.

We've all heard perfectly nice words used as the most cutting, dehumanizing slurs, and the worst slurs used as terms of endearment or at least as inside jokes meant to de-power the word. So I don't worry much about what words I can and can't say. If my intentions are wrong, I shouldn't use any word.

On the other hand, if I know a word bothers someone, I'm sure as Hell not going to mock them or flaunt it in front of them, no matter what I think of its use.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:19 PM
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38. So... You're Saying That Hoffa Shouldn't Have Made Those Comments ???
Many DUers disagree.

:shrug:
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:27 PM
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39. Did it ruffle your delicate sensibilities, or are you just trying to stir shit up?
Rhetorical question, don't bother answering. Oh, right, you never do anyway.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:39 PM
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40. ROFL
:thumbsup:
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FrodosPet Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:41 PM
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41. Gay folks use the "B" word as a term of endearment
The hosts and listeners say it all the time as a friendly greeting on Derek and Romaine. So is "bitch" a context sensitive word? Off limits when used in a hostile fashion (particularly by straight men), but OK when used in a friendly one by women and gay men?
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 11:30 PM
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42. Honestly
I think it's an opportunity to discuss what is appropriate and what is not. I swear when I talk and write. I'm no rude pundent but I don't like being told I can't use certain words because of pearl clutching offence taking.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:04 AM
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43. Bitch, please!!! n/t
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 01:06 AM by backscatter712
:evilgrin:
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:08 AM
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44. I think not.
Therefore I am not.

Trying dealing with that one, Mister Whizhard!!
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 06:21 AM
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45. "Your mother is a bitch" = rude, abusive and sexist.
"You are a son of a bitch" = OK.

Hey, I don't make these rules.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:16 AM
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48. is it, in the context of "the gallhager brothers are some talentless sons of bitches" ?
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:33 AM
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49. Apparently, it depends on ones political beliefs
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:42 AM
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50. Sexism in relation to the word "bitch" is dependent on context.
In this case referring to someone as a son of a female dog is not sexist. It is intended to be an insult and not a reference to their mothers.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:11 AM
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51. I would rather just swear
at Republicans in Japanese. Their response is usually like "wot?".
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NOMOREDRUGWAR Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:13 AM
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52. Bitch is not sexist language any more than Asshole is.
It's become part of our daily lexicon. The four-letter word starting with a c is sexist language.
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