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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:10 PM
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Obama Said To Be Looking At $300 Billion Jobs Plan - AP/Salon
Looks like 130 billion to me, after you take out the 170 billion.

Obama said to be looking at $300 billion jobs plan
BY JIM KUHNHENN, ASSOCIATED PRESS
TUESDAY SEP 06, 2011 19:06 ET

<snip>

People familiar with the White House deliberations on a jobs package say President Barack Obama is considering a plan totaling about $300 billion in tax cuts and spending for 2012.

Two of the biggest measures are expected to be a one-year extension of a payroll tax cut for workers and a continuation of unemployment benefits. Those items would total about $170 billion.

The people spoke on the condition of anonymity because the plan was still being finalized and some proposals could be changed before Obama introduces his plan Thursday night in his address to Congress.

The White House is considering tax incentives for businesses that hire as well as spending for public works projects.

<snip>

Link: http://www.salon.com/wires/allwires/09/06/D9PJAEIG1_us_obama_jobs_package/index.html

:shrug:
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:11 PM
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1. Doesn't sound like much of a jobs plan if this is true... n/t
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:11 PM
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2. I thought he was going to "go big"?
This seems like a rehash of stuff already tried.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:12 PM
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3. Big tax cuts, big new free trade agreements...
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:17 PM
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6. Big time insanity
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:18 PM
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8. Big losses in 2012
hmm
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:13 PM
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4. tax cuts and free trade... well folks...
it's a done deal. We're screwed for a generation or more.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:18 PM
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7. What kind of Democrat would think those items would improve jobs?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:21 PM
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11. a DINO
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:37 PM
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16. Yep, that's worked so damn well, and Bush was such a success, yep, why
spoil a good thing. Hell, do it right, maybe two generations can be screwed.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:17 PM
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5. Pretty big huh
Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 08:18 PM by Autumn
let's see $300 billion minus $170 billion leaves $130 billion to get Americans back to work. :shrug: Maybe he could have phoned this in.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:34 PM
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14. Gee, why don't we just give every American $1M. That would only be
about $330M! We're probably already headed toward hyperinflation, compared to the banks and all of the quantitative easing, what's another $330M. That would spur demand.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:43 PM
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20. Hell Man... I'd Vote For YOU !!!
I LIKE that plan, LOL!!!

:rofl:

:evilgrin:

:bounce:

:hi:
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:50 PM
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21. Pretty cool, huh! Any pres. candidate wanting that would probably get about
99% of the vote! Look at the cost savings! My plan = $330M. Obama's plan = $300B. Even the teabaggers would jump on my plan. Just to make it spicy, it's TAX FREE!


:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :toast:
:rofl:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:55 PM
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24. Your plan equals exactly $1 for every American. ONE. FREAKING. DOLLAR.


Got math?
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:10 PM
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28. LOL, like I said, lots of cost savings!!! n/t
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:54 PM
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22. Um... you need a math lesson

There are 330 million Americans. If you spent $330 million you would end up giving exactly $1 to every American

To give every American $1 million (that's 1,000,000).... you would have to have $330,000,000,000,000 dollars. Or $330 trillion.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:13 PM
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30. Add it to the next quantitative easing. It's all facetious.
:rofl:
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MrTriumph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:19 PM
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9. Well, it will boost employment in S. Korea & Columbia ....
x
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:20 PM
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10. Still with the tax cuts.
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mattvermont Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:26 PM
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12. anything short of 1 Trillion
for infrastructure is a waste. Bridges, flood walls, dams, roads, municipal energy upgrades: insulate, windows, LED lighting, private and public energy incentives, smart grid, train, wind, solar...

or

more of the same for decades to come.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:11 PM
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29. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!
:hi:

:kick:
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:29 PM
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13. Is he looking up his ass?
:shrug:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:36 PM
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15. I'm Loving The Unreccs On This One...
You'd think they'd jump at the chance to be supportive of this plan.

:hide::evilgrin::hide:

:yoiks:
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:55 PM
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25. Your OP doesn't have quite the
"right" slant to it.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:28 PM
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37. LOL !!!
:loveya:

:hi:
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:38 PM
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17. How about increasing income tax rates...
Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 08:40 PM by roamer65
to 60% on those making more than $500k and a $2T public works program that only buys American materials.

Now that would be bold.
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mattvermont Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:42 PM
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18. precisely..
Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 08:45 PM by mattvermont
although I doubt it would require 60% to fund such a proposal. At any rate, anything short of this is a disingenuous attempt at solving the problem.
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:42 PM
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19. Wait.... Let me get my magnifying glass....


Yep... I can see it now.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:54 PM
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23. An anonymous source who admits the plan is not finalized
Wait. Until. Thursday.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:57 PM
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26. Oh C'mon... What Fun Would THAT Be ???
Who knows if it wasn't the WH who floated this... just to test the reaction?

:shrug:

But you are correct... Thursday night will tell the tale.

:hi:
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:09 PM
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27. Did I miss the speech? People familiar, speaking on condition of anonymity.are cowards...
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:14 PM
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31. Yeah, But What If They We're Asked To Do So ???
This White House has not been above floating a trial balloon.

:shrug:
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:19 PM
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32. Yeah, but some are water balloons they toss over the WH gate on us! n/t
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:39 PM
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34. LOL !!! - Just Be Thankful They Had Water In Them...
:evilgrin:

:hi:
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:27 PM
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33. Pssst! Obama! The point is to create jobs
in the US! Not Asia, South America--- here!
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:48 PM
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35. At what point do we start talking about tariffs or eliminating H-1Bs and offshore labor.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:22 PM
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36. And the Republicans will say no to this small plan....
They're gonna mock him, call him a socialist, a big spender, blah, blah, blah, all for $300 billion.
:banghead: :argh:
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:33 PM
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38. too tiny to be effective. nt
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:37 PM
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39. Oh... The Joke Potential There... Shall Be Quashed...
We need a straight-jacket smilie.

:hi:
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:43 PM
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40. If so, he is not going big...
Obama is a great campaigner but he needs to become a great leader.

He has fantastic potential and he could use his skills and his bully pulpit to gather support from the American people who voted him into office. I did believe in hope and change when I cast my vote for him, but I see little evidence of it so far.

Perhaps he needs some new advisers.

The Republican party has been taken over by the Tea Party who is proposing the incredibly stupid idea of a balanced budget amendment. Obama could point out that if we would have had that amendment when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and dragged us into WWII, we would be teaching German in our schools today and celebrating the "Thousand Year Reich".
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 11:10 PM
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41. Ah, yes, tax cuts, the proven jobs creator.
:eyes:
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 11:14 PM
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42. If that's the proposal, just imagine what it will get "bargained" down to.
I wish to hell someone had taken the president to a swap meet or yard sale at some point in his life so that he could have learned the basics of negotiation.

Of course, he might actually want a small, irrelevant "jobs package" consisting mostly of tax cuts, in which case I wish he would spare us the bad theater and just openly admit that he mostly agrees with the Republicans when it comes to economics.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 11:15 PM
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43. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!
:kick:

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