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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:30 PM
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I just started "A People's History of the United States" it is very eye-opening.
I'm just on the third chapter, but I've already learned a lot. It is very enlightening to see just how bad it was for the poor in early America, and the fact that John Locke's Fundamental Constitution had elements of Feudalism in it, really weakens his image as hero of freedom. I was just wondering what you all thought of it?
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:32 PM
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1. Thought is was a great read...a book I would recommend to any and all
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banned from Kos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:36 PM
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2. Locke is the Father of Liberalism -- Madison/Jefferson followed
You are a really voracious learner, WW.


My advice - don't jump so fast...
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:40 PM
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7. +1 and you can go read Hobbs to see the father of Conservatism
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:36 PM
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3. Excellent book. I have read it 5 times.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:37 PM
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4. You'll never look at things the same way.
it's that good, and that important.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:38 PM
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5. Howard ZInn is a saint, and...
I preach from that book on Fridays.
(As a Pastafarian, it's our holy day)
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:58 PM
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12. +1 I love everything about this post :-)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:40 PM
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6. Locke in some ways is a bridge
His ideas on government were revolutionary, even heretical. As tl Zinn..must read.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:42 PM
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8. I read "Lies My Teacher Told Me"
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:46 PM
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10. Great minds post alike! :)
I recently finished his more recent book "Lies Across America" about misleading historical sites and markers. Very very good but I think I like "LMTTM" better :)
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:44 PM
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9. Great book! And another great companion to it:
is "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by James Loewen.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:47 PM
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11. This is the most important history book there is.
I am glad you are reading it. It will change how you look at history forever, and I have no doubt it will influence how you look at current events too. It did for me.

I know that I was shocked at so many things that I had never been taught in school, both high school and college. But then again, I always hated history because it was all about wars and the power players. I was enthralled by learning how the common people lived and were treated.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:02 PM
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14. Ah you were taught elite history!
Zinn is part of the New History movement...there are more where he threads.

:-)

White Cargo, on indentures...is a hard but good read, in the same school as it were.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:59 PM
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13. I cannot heap enough praise upon that work
although I recommend it at every opportunity.

As you read, you will become aware that the version of history you were taught in school (even college-level) is the 'revisionist' version and that Howard Zinn tells the unvarnished truth. He was absolutely right in focusing on class struggle, as it's a common thread running the entire length of our history. It strengthened my resolve to fight for justice and against corpocracy.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:06 PM
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16. The NWO is at hand ,We need to expose the facilitators , and oust
the lot of them.
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:06 PM
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15. What resonated most for me
was the union history, and how it is bound up with the travails (and successes) of the middle class. Were it not for unions, there would BE no middle class. Unions = middle class.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:07 PM
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17. Kick, because I hope that anyone who may not know about this book will see your OP.
And rec because: good for you that you're reading it! :)

sw
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:11 PM
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18. " You Cant be Neutral " was great.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:20 PM
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19. Indeed it is! I used that as my daughter's textbook to teach her U.S. history
when I home schooled her.
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southmost Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:20 PM
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20. Reading that book is fundamental
great source of info
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