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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 11:52 AM
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Worried about dominionism? You're no better than a holocaust denier according to the Christian Right
It seems that Liberty Counsel's Matt Barber is none-too-pleased with the coverage that dominionism and its influence and role within the Religious Right movement has been receiving in the media and on blogs like Right Wing Watch and so he has dedicated his more recent column to attacking and mocking those who have been writing about it:


MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow has warned that much of the Republican presidential field embraces this startling, seditious sect of extreme fundamentalism. She’s breathlessly warned that Christian Dominionists “believe they have a direct line to God” and intend to “clear the way for the end of the world]…by infiltrating and taking over government.”

Kyle Mantyla with the atheist group “People for the American Way” has been warning for months now that this organized craze of underground Christians plan “to take dominion over, literally, seven specific facets of modern life in order to wrest control away from Satan and his demonic spirits so that Christians can put them to use in bringing about God’s kingdom on Earth.”

Now, you may laugh. You may think these anti-Christian “Dominioners” like Maddow, Goldberg and Mantyla – these fearless progressives risking all to sound the alarm on the rising threat of Christian Dominionism – are just a bunch of liberal, tinfoil hat-wearing kooks.

You might believe they’re merely a left-wing gaggle of tattooed, body-pierced pot-brownie pies in pajamas, no different than 9/11-truthers, global-warmers or Holocaust-deniers.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/barber-those-writing-about-dominionism-no-different-911-truthers-and-holocaust-deniers
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 11:58 AM
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1. Well, they'd know all about that holocaust denial thing.
It's their thing.
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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 11:58 AM
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2. This post really belongs in the Religion board, not GD. /nt
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:03 PM
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4. No, this affects us all.
The Christian dominionists are more politically powerful than most Americans have an inkling about. They have infested Washington DC.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:34 PM
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13. Please review my post #12 below. Thanks. nt
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:29 PM
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6. Maybe we should cross post in Business, Government, Family, Education, Media and Entertainment, too
Be very concerned.

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:33 PM
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7. If there's some DU problem with that, just let me know and I could help you. nt
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:16 PM
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22. Cool beans, it got moved back to where it belongs
Thanks
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:35 PM
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8. The oppressor wants us to think that people are completely compartmentalised. nt
Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 12:35 PM by patrice
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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:00 PM
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19. Keeping this shit in the religion board is why so many
people haven't heard about it. The dominionists are counting on ignorance. Just read the daily kos diaries of dogemperor, a dominionist cult survivor. It's quite real and it has been in general political discussion for a few years now.


Do catch up.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:11 PM
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21. Sorry, but you're wrong.
Wouldn't be able to discuss this for all the "noise" that would be raised up.
It belongs HERE, and I rather agree that it should be cross-posted and discussed in every forum that is covered by one of the "Seven Mountains".
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:00 PM
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3. Nazi wannabes talking about Holocaust denial.
These people need to look up the definition of irony.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:39 PM
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9. History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.
- Mark Twain
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 03:30 PM
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24. I was gonna say, holocaust advocates don't get to call people out on holocaust denial. (nt)
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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:16 PM
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5. "I don't know how many
future generations we can count on before the lord returns."

James Watt-Secretary of the Interior under Reagan.

Now that's a Christian Dominionist. :)
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:51 PM
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10. Perhaps, but not necessarily. There is a difference between the
old-fashioned end-timers who want, expect, and eagerly await the end of the world, and the Dominionists' taking action to bring it about.
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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:50 PM
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14. The enviromental policies of Watt
could hasten the "End" if you believe in those things.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:20 PM
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11. Video that describes the Seven Mountains plans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-l0MjCSXF3E

And this thread should not have been moved from GD.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:30 PM
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12. Is there reason to be concerned about how Dominionism plays into Faith-Based Initiatives?
"Provides details on programs and services including charitable choice regulations."

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1SNNT_ENUS412&q=HHS+Center+for+Faith+Based+and+Neighborhood+Partnerships+&btnG=Google+Search&oq=HHS+Center+for+Faith+Based+and+Neighborhood+Partnerships+&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=9126875l9126875l0l9130752l1l1l0l0l0l0l229l229l2-1l1l0

It just seems to me that when you're talking about basically GUARANTEEING a bunch of jobs on a certain economic model, who runs that model and how, a.k.a. Risk Management and it's POWERFUL effects upon staffing and operations, e.g. Quality Measures, is a mighty Mighty BIG issue that I hope will be even more a part of Health Care reform.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 05:48 PM
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15. People for the American Way is not an atheist group.
It is a secular group. That's a big difference. Kind of like how John Adams was a Protestant Christian who thought religion had no place in government.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 05:51 PM
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16. That jumped out at me too.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 05:53 PM
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18. Well, if you're going to start fact checking them....
:-)
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 05:52 PM
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17. Thank you for restoring this to GD!
Much appreciated.

Dominionism is central to a lot of problems.
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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:03 PM
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20. This belongs in GD, thanks for restoring it.
This shit is real and everybody needs to know about it.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:25 PM
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23. "These aren't the Droids you're looking for. Move along..."
I'm not tattooed, pierced, pot-brownie-eating, nor do I even OWN a set of pajamas.

This "7 Mountains" Dominionism scares the living shit out of me. If Perry or Bachmann gains the Oval Office, well, friends, we can look to 1930's Germany for what happens next.

They're already trying to come for the Trade Unionists.

Let's not get bogged down in quibbling over the "No True Scotsman" fallacy of whether or not these people are "True Christians(tm)" or not. *THEY* think they're Gawd's Chosen, and they get their plays out of Rushdooney's interpretation of the same Big Bronze Age Book.

We're already behind the curve on this. While we were going about the Art of Survival, these people were already "Taking Dominion". School Boards, small municipal governments, Dog Catchers, State Assemblies, and now we have one in the US House of Representatives from Minnesota, and one who's Governor of Texas. And they BOTH want to fulfill their destiny by becoming President of the United Seven Mountains of Jebus.

I can't decide if they deliberately "let the cat out of the bag" with all their books on the subject and Perry's "Prayer-a-palooza" so they could start the denial dis-information campaign or if they genuinely thought we weren't going to notice until they frog-marched us off to the stoning arenas.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 03:43 PM
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25. Hmm. Sounds like the batshit dominionists are just a wee bit
worried about being smoked out of their guano-covered belfries and being exposed to the cold light of truth. Which can not happen soon enough.

More, MUCH more background on the dominionist totalitarians at www.yuricareport.com
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 03:43 PM
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26. No, not worried in the least.
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