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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 05:30 PM
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What does all this bullshit boil down to?
Edited on Mon Sep-05-11 05:44 PM by undergroundpanther
Abuse of power& people and the tolerance of it by too many of us..

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot
exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will
continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they
can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.
From that moment on, the majority always votes for the
candidates who promise the most benefits from the public
treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally
collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed
by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest
civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about
200 years."
-- Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor 1787

Fascism.

If the fascist assholes don't get what they want out of us they'll just set up this system they've imposed on us all for centuries by using a wall street collapse as a tool to make us suffer and die. Until we give up..They'll make us homeless,humiliated,poor and do it to anyone they choose.And the already poor will cushion the blow to the middle class unaccustomed to poverty.Because the poor are our culture's pariahs and nobody likes being on the bottom.So the poor will be hated,even more.
Our country and the world has been overrun with fascists,authoritarians and bullies.
Too many people still believe the bullshit abusers and fascists tell them.Abusive assholes are the ones who WANT power and will do anything to have it..So they can ABUSE it.They blow the taxpayers money on each other without concern or shame..Telling US to tighten OUR belts when we can barely afford to live..

OTOH I think the excess cost of maintaining the decadent lifestyles and perks of the rich and ceo/governing class is way too costly to the people,evident because people are fast becoming more poor).Notice they never mention the upkeep costs of the buddy buddy systems of wealthy corporations,the military,the churches, and our government, senators who can vote what their own salary will be,corporate welfare and the costs of other top executives lifestyles of excess and perks denied the rest of us,and the wages of those staff serving them....
(to the wealthy the truth is right here)
"If your outgo exceeds your income, then your upkeep will
be your downfall."
-- Bill Earle
"The State is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live
at the expense of everyone else."
-- Frederic Bastiat
The ones in power and those with wealth=power..cling to it voraciously.They have no shame,remorse or doubt that what they do is wrong.They exude certainty which makes them charismatic.If we don't do something to stop them that affects THEIR interests,they'll pretend to care say something that inspires hope then ACT otherwise still abusing power. These assholes want & encourage us to hate each other rather than seek out the true source of our misery,the authoritarians,the financial abusers,the sociopath over-rich,the control freaks,bullies, power abusers,that are in places of power over us.The assholes look after each other in thier good ole boy network found in country clubs and exclusive venues.We are getting more atomized and disconnected.
The same abusive pattern is there be it from a capitulating cowed bystander president at best,a complicit in abuses president at worst.Either way many people are being hurt,crushed emotionally, abused a billion ways everyday.http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1496121

We are seen as inferiors,suckers and prey to the abusers of power,because of the beliefs ABUSERS OF POWER USE TO CLAIM IT'S OK TO ABUSE power!!
everyday we face betrayals and lies and hypocrisy and MANIPULATION and CRAZY_MAKING this assholes say we get duped into TOLERATING and DENYING it because we feel there is no options that are safe enough to DEFY or ESCAPE them.
http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~unger/articles/torture.html

"There is a war that makes us adore our conquerors and despise ourselves."
— Arundhati Roy (The God of Small Things)

Far too many people think they HAVE to put up with it everyday.We can complain all day go through the authoritarian layers of human roadblocks(mangers etc.) Just to talk to the pig running the outfit and ask them WHY?..They made the system so it's a hassle to face the cause..We can complain,yell and carry signs just as long as we never challenge what the abusers think is a divine right they alone are entitled to have to rule.IT's a LIE. How many recycled rich boys are in our government for generations,who price out any citizen outside their club never gets heard,or Mammon forbid elected to senate or house.If you look at the genealogies of the rulers of this country it's like reading the history of a DYNASTY. And abusers of power will keep it that way because they think they have a divine right to CONTROL the people's lives.
http://history.wisc.edu/sommerville/367/367-04.htm
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:V2JwDCDXKIsJ:www.unknownnews.org/060502a-Panther.html+underground+panther+what+do+conservatives&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

So many people are coerced to tolerate it from generation to generation,they obey,let themselves be misled,and duped by bigotries,propaganda,inherited beliefs along with a avoidance of unpleasant feelings,dilemmas,questions,and changes required in your own character raised by what you learn and realizations that cause cognitive dissonance.So to avoid the truth,they live their lives never questioning why things are this way .Instead of doing the work it takes to find out why this abuse?. Abuse is being perpetuated by the president, congress,a mean boss at work,or a tyrant asshole dominating at home, they are all doing the same shit,abusing others.. The ones with power,they are the abusers of all of us.Along with untold millions just doing their job,obeying the chain of command tying them into knots,even if it means ruining another's life ,with hunger,humiliation,'laws' made to inflict,powerlessness,suffering,pain or death to others..
http://www.dangersofinternetdating.com/articles/abusealertpage1.htm

When will we fight the corrupt abusers on OUR terms? Why do we limit ourselves to THEIR ways of confrontation? Their SYSTEM,Their Rules? Their ways of life they imposed on us for generations back to the very first asshole who declared himself king.

"Charles explained that there was a doctrine called the Divine Right of Kings, which said that:
(a) He was King, and that was right.
(b) Kings were divine and that was right.
(c) Kings were right, and that was right.
(d) Everything was all right."

Fascism.
Will we ever get the righteous anger to stand up to defend ourselves and each other to eliminate abusers and abuse from our lives,stop the abuses against the ecosystem,educate others about sociopaths and how reject them,Teaching people to question the purpose of their job and what they are being USED for.Why do we fail to bully them back for the sake of our human rights including our own,and run them OUT of power and into the gutter,kept poor,and powerless as they need to be kept lest they try to seek power again.We cannot trust abusers of power~ever~ Do not shy away from hating those who abuse you.Be it a snotty manager,an abuser spouse or parent,an abuser of power a congressman,media mouth or a president. We are supposed to be the governing class.NOT THEM.


Because of this treasonous role reversal we end up tolerating ecocide,fascism,harassment over something as dumb as walking down a road by a cop,financial abuse by corporations banks,and financial abuse by the rich,lives of poverty,hunger,hopelessness,no affordable housing,foreclosures,to rely on cars and no good public transport,crumbling infrastructure,schools that can barely afford life,to neglect our own health while the power abusers get all the health care and perks humanly possible on the CHEAP..What is lawful about this kind of abuse of us? These pigs cherry pick what parts of the Constitution they tout,and neglect the other parts important to US.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/preamble

They deserve to be hated and they must have no power over anyone ~EVER~. They'll never change,they can't be trusted,but they need to be taken out of power..And we need to TAKE power back from them.Take their ill gotten fortunes AWAY from them so they can't buy congress.Expose disgusting hidden crimes & activities.

Do anything we can to RIP the MASK off of them completely regardless of their national security excuses,proprietary information, and fear propagation bullshit.They will never stop hiding behind flags,religion, fake virtue,promises they never intend to follow up on,fake town hall meetings,the world must see WHO they really ARE to feel the rage as the massive injustices they do that make our lives so painful..This isn't about redistributing wealth it's about stopping ABUSE of POWER.

We need to accept these assholes will never share anything with us,help us,be fair,or leave other countries alone,or stop gambling at the wall street casino with taxpayer money like a bunch of addicts,or make pay fair or fire the corrupt even if they tank the economy because they're racists and rich.
They love to watch us fight each other, be incarcerated to be exploited,kill ourselves in despair,face humiliations and be unable to stop it,they want to restrain us,abuse us,sicken us,rob us,drive us insane,rob us of a way to live,rob us of our home,our meaning,our food,time,opportunities,dreams,and the ability to escape their iron fists pressing us into atomized,lonely,dependent, helpless hopeless individuals so demoralized,overworked,scared and abused they cannot trust one another to be able to form the social bonds that can lead to solidarity and fighting back.


Who cares if the abusers are on the Right/Left.Fact is if they perpetuate abuse of the people or if they capitulate to fascists,and fascist policies they are COMPLICIT in this abuse of billions of people.And that makes them as fascist as the fascists themselves.


"Of course it will be difficult to solve the big problems of humanity. But can you, or I, or anyone justify directing all our efforts toward solving trivial problems -- just because the ones we all really need to face are difficult?"

What will happen to ME?,my stuff,my job, or my Familiarity? the worried narcissist or cowed citizen will moan,They demand to be led,kept out of harms way,and exempted from change if talk of standing up to abuse enters the discussion of what to do about this.



We need to stop letting these scared people make us fear and either tell them they are being complicit in keeping this injustice the status quo,to help and be courageous,get out of the way,or STFU.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/05/17-3

Why do we listen to those who would give away our rights to not be abused to people who's only interest in anything is to protect themselves and family,to hell with everyone else?

A man wrapped up in himself makes a very small bundle.
Benjamin Franklin
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin

When is enough,enough? Do we still want a real democracy or simply 'friendly fascism window dressed as a democracy?

A question people should be asking is:
How many of us say we are willing but end up refusing do anything about it?
How many are willing and ready to do what it takes?
How many are willing and angry as hell but are restrained from doing anything by circumstances imposed upon them,
(like poverty,sickness,disability,injury,incarceration in an institution, or lack of transportation.) but still do what they can..?
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Denninmi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 05:58 PM
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1. Two word summation for you.
We're screwed.
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 07:27 PM
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2. Yep, I think that is the plan
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 07:52 PM
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3. last paragraph... in answer to those questions
I qualify for #3...qwilling and angry and want to do something...but lack of resources keep me here.

still trying to plug away though, in my own community, as best i can
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 08:51 PM
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4. K&R
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