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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:15 AM Original message |
We are a screwed up people... Arizona is gonna start charging people $25 to visit friends/relatives |
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digitaln3rd (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
1. It's just $25 |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. It's a fee on visitors, not the inmates. |
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digitaln3rd (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #4 |
37. And the visitors are going to visit who? |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. So, you are okay with punishing the families for the criminal's behavior? |
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digitaln3rd (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. I highly doubt $25 is "punishing" families but.. |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Don't count on my vote for you as Humanitarian of the Year |
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RedRocco (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
128. he probally also cheers on prison rape n/t |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. On what basis are you judging the families as "enabling the criminals"? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
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Mendocino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #44 |
77. Let's just say my cousin |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
120. "A bribe to the state," indeed. It's mob rule in every way. |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
79. Of course they do. More than 10% of Arizona prisoners are contracted out to for-profit |
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Gemini Cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #79 |
113. Thankyou. You get it. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
93. OMG. |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #93 |
180. To paraphrase Gene Kelly in "Inherit the Wind": |
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Drew Richards (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #44 |
106. wtf? NO it supposidly for background checks on INNOCENT AMERICANS |
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emcguffie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
126. $25 is a hardship for any family who is underwater on their mortgage -- |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. Exactly - the guy that died from a tooth infection lacked $27 for medicine |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
134. the families are enabling the criminals? |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
158. Boy, talk about broad-brushing and insensitivity...you win the prize. nt |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 08:18 AM Response to Reply #44 |
161. You really should quit while you're ahead. |
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Ferret Annica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #44 |
167. Why do you want to further cut contact with the community... |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #44 |
173. Your posts are absolutely stunning in their insensitivity and |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #44 |
174. Welcome to my ignore list |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
183. problem is these people are poor |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
66. Number 1, You don't sound like a Democrat! #2 |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #37 |
56. America has 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prisoners |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #37 |
61. Deleted message |
digitaln3rd (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. Forgive me for not coddling criminals. |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #74 |
117. I'll simply repeat what Hippo Tron said |
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emcguffie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #74 |
127. It may be that you are extraordinarily poorly informed. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:01 AM Response to Reply #74 |
144. A lot of those "criminals" are just people who got caught with a small |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:06 AM Response to Reply #74 |
145. Because not charging a fee is |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:07 AM Response to Reply #74 |
147. Deleted message |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #74 |
169. And we really SHOULD charge the prisoner's kids who want to come see their dad |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #37 |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
67. See post # 66. It was meant for you...not post #38 |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
73. So why don't you join them if you think it's such a cushy existence? Look, Ma; No rent! |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
80. Again, it's a fee on the visitors, not the inmates. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
87. Do you REALLY think that everyone in prison is a 'petty thug'? |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
123. Its a jail not a fucking zoo |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #37 |
164. tool |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #37 |
165. Your antecedents are all confused. Try again. |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. The visitors are paying the $25 not the inmate, did |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #5 |
43. +1 and these so-called Christians always forget |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
99. They aren't 'Christians' in any meaningful sense of the term. (OK, |
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enuegii (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #99 |
132. I believe it was Chaplain Tappman who was an Anabaptist in Catch 22, |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #132 |
135. Oy vey, my memory goes rusty with age.Of course it's |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. -1 n/t |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. really? |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. O M G...if I say what I should, I will probably get tossed, so just OMG |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. No, we hold our tongues |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Same here. At a bare minimum, where is our Martin Luther King, Jr.? |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
60. I'm sitting here OMGing for the same reason! |
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Gemini Cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
119. +1 You and me both. |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
121. In The Grapes of Wrath, some characters were 'Okies'... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. oh, you know, brother. |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. "Just $25" = no access when you don't have a dollar in your pocket nt |
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #18 |
138. That's $25 *per person* |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
19. Welcome to DU.. |
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ebayfool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
72. I hope he doesn't ... |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Reading comprehension is a must. Try it some time. |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. My my my. nt |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
31. -1 |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
33. Right out of the box from a RW think tank. |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
47. Are people who haven't committed crimes exempt from the fee? |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
52. What an idiotic statement. |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
54. ...such empathy... |
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WingDinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
59. We need to start harvesting live prisoner organs to pay back society for their indiscretions. |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. And after their generous 'organ donation,' we can use them to make Soylent Green!1!! |
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Mendocino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
86. Their bones can make fertilizer, |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #62 |
111. HAHA, nice. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
64. gross |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
68. Maybe, you know, if people pay their taxes to help build these |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
76. Deleted message |
rustydog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
78. The sins of the father....ring a bell anyone? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #78 |
133. Please back away from the broad brush, thanks. n/t |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:15 AM Response to Reply #78 |
148. Not sure about Arizonans as a whole, but the state legislature is full |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
97. The fee is for the people who want to visit them, |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
105. This includes people AWAITING TRIAL. In other words, not yet found guilty. In other words, INNOCENT |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
110. I drove 150 miles to visit my brother in jail (he did some stupid stuff). |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:06 AM Response to Reply #110 |
146. you're a good bro', jc |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
130. dumbest post in years |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 12:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
141. Crazy Sheriff Joe, is that you? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 01:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
143. it is fucking SICKENING |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 07:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
156. An even easier solution |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 08:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
163. Obviously you and Arizona law makers can NOT be Christians. |
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DocMac (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
166. Maybe they are, you know, not guilty! nt |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
179. So, I'm reading your idiotic repsonses and your pathetic view of the world... |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
181. so you are 100% sure that every person in those prisons is 100% guilty? |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
184. This has got to be one of the more ignorant, flame-bait posts ever. |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
185. Of course we know that everyone in prison is guilty. |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
2. You're paying to be registered and monitored by the government in order |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
3. I would bet the vast majority of the families that have |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Bingo! A fee = fewer family visits |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
36. And Less Monitoring of Conditions, As a Result |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
125. Less visitors and then eventually no visitors |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #8 |
186. There is a constitutional right to vote. Is there a constitutional right to visit prisoners? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. And have warrants maybe? |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #15 |
34. I'd guess it's more likely a ploy to identify gang affiliates. |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. They can do that by requiring ID/ |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
116. In my experience they write down the ID, and do the checks later. |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. They're not adding any checks to the screening they already do |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
100. Instead of taxing the fucking rich to pay for the prison industrial complex |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. "Round up the usual suspects" |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
96. Exactly. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
115. As someone said down thread, it's a "poor tax." Best way to put it. |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
7. Are their prisons under private contract? EOM |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. I'm pretty sure that the prison in Florence |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
30. my first thought. |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
9. What a bunch of horseshit. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
12. Sounds like "for profit" prisons. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
13. We have become a nation that puts greed over morality. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #13 |
50. Exactly so Odin. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
17. It's not $25.00 per visit, it's a one time fee. The OP doesn't |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Well, to be fair, it says "to visit" not "per visit" |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Oh, well, that makes things SO much better! |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. On top of it taking "up to 60 days for the department to approve the applications" |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
75. "...The one-time “background check fee”..." is right out of the OP. It seems clear. nt |
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #75 |
140. One time $25 fee for each visitor |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 01:55 AM Response to Reply #140 |
142. The legislature foolishly overlooked the fact that many of the terrorists will |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 07:38 AM Response to Reply #140 |
157. Of course it would be for *each* visitor. If Visitor A had a background |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
22. Do they really need to background check the visitors? |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Looking for "Wants and Warrants" on the visitors. n/t |
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Erose999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #27 |
170. Wouldn't that be a violation of the 4th ammendment? They can't run you for warrants unless they |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #170 |
182. The whole 4th Amendment quesiton is a moot point, as the |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Yep. I've experienced that - any opportunity to find |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
23. Wow. That's cold. nt |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
32. This is an absolute outrage and the Arizona chapter of the ACLU |
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LaValle (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. They should be happy |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Deleted message |
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Yes, Honduras is a mess under the governance of the oligarchy |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #40 |
70. Oh boy, we're better than Honduras! |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
101. I rejoice in their good fortune. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #40 |
159. I alerted on you. nt |
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DocMac (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #40 |
176. Clearly, the Honduran's need a revolution! |
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bluedigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
46. Why stop there? |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
85. They won't stop there. Once republican win this battle and are cheered |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #85 |
112. +1, it won't stop there is right. |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #46 |
162. Put a taxi meter in the patrol car |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
51. how disgusting-- and a perfect "conservative" policy |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
53. I had to pay a fee for my background checks for a job and a permit. |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. There is no background check and the fee goes to repair and maintenance |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. Are you saying that they simply record that info without looking in a database? |
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Mendocino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
83. Then is there an assumption that |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. No, but the prison has an interest in prisoners not associating with known criminals. |
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Erose999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #90 |
171. Keeping all the criminals together in one place keeps them from "associating with known cirminals" |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #171 |
178. True, but the fellow incarcerated convicts are also under the control of prison. |
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dembotoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
55. Back when i studied corrections. Contact with the family had a very nice correlation |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
88. Nah, recidivism helps their bottom line, right? |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
58. Why not just charge by the weight of the drugs and weapons the visitors bring in? |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
65. Thank you so much for taking Janet. See, really no effect at all. |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
81. Not sure where I see in their Bible about charging to be allowed to visit |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Sounds like a good model |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
82. Another case where republican dominant governments start by picking on the weakest. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
89. Oh, that oughta do a lot for morale. |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
91. If Texas is the "Laboratory for bad government"... |
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War Horse (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
92. So you should *pay* to visit a loved one in prison |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Their first line of thinking is: The state needs money |
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War Horse (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. You are probably right |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
95. The article states its a "one-time background check fee" for visitors - |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #95 |
102. Except they don't do a background check. It's a poor tax. |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. +1000 |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
107. I just want to thank everyone in this thread who is opposed to this. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. If you want to do a bit more, you can donate to the following |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. I truly love this thread, reminds me of old school DU. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
109. I cannot believe this will pass Constitutional muster... |
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southmost (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
122. forget rehabilitation |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
124. What did they say? Privatize it, nothing will really change. |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
131. The (R)s are going for what I call "The Full Matthew"! |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #131 |
136. Excellent citation. The Repukes are still on the Book of Leviticus. They |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #131 |
139. And here's another one, my personal favorite: |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
137. This Extortion is ridiculous and unnecessary. There is no reason to burden |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:19 AM Response to Original message |
149. So, on top of how unfair this is |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:23 AM Response to Reply #149 |
150. I call them 'dangerous' men and women, so called because |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:44 AM Response to Reply #150 |
152. Dangerous, yes, |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #152 |
175. Insofar as Hannah Arendt used the phrase 'banality of evil' to refer |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 02:35 AM Response to Original message |
151. This is how far into fascism and fascist legal system we are at this point -- !! |
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Chimichurri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
154. Guess what a prison will have to do to get more visitors in order to increase profits? |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
155. My Question |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
160. i dont really have a problem with it |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #160 |
172. For the brazillionth time . . . |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #172 |
187. Wish we could assess a fee for people who sound off without even reading the OP first. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #160 |
177. Deleted message |
lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-06-11 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
168. Gov's in on that private for profit prison industrial complex. Surprised she's only charging 25 |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-07-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #168 |
188. If they get away with this, the fee WILL increase. |
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