Cum and Gone

[formercia]

Officer who had sex on car fired by NM police
APAP – Sat, Sep 3, 2011

SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — A New Mexico state police officer has been fired after security cameras caught him having sex with a woman on the hood of a car.

Officer Bert Lopez's dismissal from the New Mexico state police was confirmed by The Santa Fe New Mexican (http://bit.ly/oIqKyd ) on Saturday. The newspaper said Lopez has 30 days to appeal the firing.

The surveillance photos were taken from a motion-triggered security camera positioned at the front gate of the county-owned La Bajada Ranch south of Santa Fe. The encounter was at the remote Canyon Ranch.

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http://news.yahoo.com/officer-had-sex-car-fired-nm-police-194316433.html

[Warren DeMontague]

1. Yes, but what about the Chihuahua?

GOOD GOD MAN, WHAT ABOUT THE CHIHUAHUA??

[formercia]

2. Not to worry

The little Fella got a job flogging Tex-Mex.

[Tejas]

12. I suddenly have the urge for a taco.

[formercia]

14. Be careful

No eating it on the hood of your Car.

[Tejas]

23. You're right, they don't make paint like they used to.

And it could void the warranty, hopefully a carwash is nearby :rofl:

[bluestate10]

59. Yeah. You don't know what's been up there. nt

[formercia]

62. ...and you thought that was Guacamole and Sour Cream....

Yum.....

[Fumesucker]

4. One word..

Porn.

[Throckmorton]

127. 1/4 a doggy xanex, and intense tharapy

but for the poor little guy, what has been seen cannot be unseen.

[alphafemale]

3. If it wasn't anything coerced I don't think he should have been fired.

Nowadays you should always assume you are being filmed by some camera or 'nother though. owwwch.

[Cirque du So-What]

8. Still, a waste of time on the public dime

or if he was actually off-duty, he was wearing his official uniform while having sex in public...plus, there's the necessary damage control in the aftermath.

[alphafemale]

9. Worthy of disipline maybe.

But not to job loss level.


It's just sex fer gawd sakes.

It's like eating.

Everyone does it.

Most people like it.

People need to grow the fuck up.

[Cirque du So-What]

11. For me, it's not the sex

I'm actually very pro-sex. It's the waste of time...but not on the taxpayer's dime, not in public, and not in uniform.

On edit: I see the point to be made concerning 'it's only sex.' After all, far worse offenses go unpunished with great regularity.

[Broderick]

24. Yeah, having women offer sex

and taking it to get out of tickets is not a firing offense. I guess that is what some people deem as appropriate. Instead of a ticket, just let me fuck you.

[ZombieHorde]

48. Accusations of bribes should be proved before they are acted on. nt

[Broderick]

49. naw covering it up

and firing the guy was easier.

[ZombieHorde]

50. We don't really know if there was cover up. nt

[Broderick]

52. omglmao

[ZombieHorde]

74. The expectation of evidence does humor or annoy many people.

I know there is a division on DU concerning evidence, and we have several forums that deal with this subject. I read them often, and I think they are really interesting.

[formercia]

109. It's not as if there wasn't a video tape

Have you ever heard the term: caught with their pants down?

[ZombieHorde]

112. The video tape only proves sex took place. The other accusations have not been proven,

and the investigation said no crime was committed, and therefore, no bribe took place according to the police.

I fully admit the police could be lying to protect their own, they seem to this often in my perspective, but the woman could be lying too. Humans lie a lot.

[formercia]

118. They bullshit a lot too. n/t

[ZombieHorde]

121. It's OK, I won't hold it against you. nt

[formercia]

128. Please don't

I would hate to catch something.

[RedRocco]

83. it was a bribe

she offered sex in exchange for not getting a ticket

[formercia]

93. Agreed. n/t

[11 Bravo]

105. Self delete

[LanternWaste]

96. Or any other biological function

"It's just sex fer gawd sakes. It's like eating. Everyone does it"

Just like any other biological function. Defecation for instance... and lord knows we should be able to defecate wherever and whenever we want to, potty-training be damned. :shrug:

Unless of course we begin to realize that even the most basic human functions and desires are tempered by social mores, preventing many people from urinating on the floor of an office building.

[formercia]

135. Uhhhhh......no...n/t

[RebelOne]

32. Maybe he was on his lunch break. n/t

[Lyric]

13. I used to work in a grocery store.

If my boss had caught me on the security camera having sex in the stockroom, I would have fully expected to be fired. Hell, if a police officer found ME doing what that guy was doing (going at it right out in broad daylight, in public) I'd have been arrested!

Police officers are held to a higher standard than grocery store clerks, because they serve as role models and public defenders, and they have access to sensitive places and situations--like private homes and violent crime scenes. We need to be able to trust that these men and women are trustworthy, serious, and have a more accurate moral compass than the average person on the street. Behavior like this proves that this man is not fit to be a police officer, no matter what awards and honors he'd won in the past.

And I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I do NOT believe that the woman would have "consented" if not for the fact that she had just been pulled over. I heard her radio interview. I know she said that the sex was not to get out of a ticket. But we have no clue whether or not she might have been trying to minimize the backlash because she'd been threatened or otherwise coerced.

He deserved to be fired at the very LEAST, and he ought to consider himself lucky that he didn't end up charged with a crime over this. He abused his position and failed to live up to the higher social standards that we hold our police officers to, and perhaps even committed a form of rape. We'll see what the woman says now that the guy's been fired and no longer has any authority to retaliate against her and her family.

[formercia]

18. Good summation.

Like other professional relationships, such as Doctor-Patient, Attorney-Client and others, there are behavioral standards that need to be met.

[ZombieHorde]

37. Instead of thinking, "If I can't have sex at work, than no one* should have sex at work,"

you should be thinking "we should all have sex at work from time to time."

*porno stars and prostitutes are obvious exceptions

[Lyric]

43. If you want pay your (non-porn) employees to fuck on the clock

then be my guest. You have that right.

In the meantime, I think we can find a better use for our tax money than to pay some lecherous cop to indulge himself on our dime.

:shrug:

[ZombieHorde]

44. Technically, we don't know if the guy was on the clock.

But let's say he was on the clock, but doing a crossword puzzle for 15 minutes -which may be generous- instead of fucking, would you still want him to be fired?

[Lyric]

45. He was in uniform. Therefore he was on the clock.

And I don't think he needs to exploit his authority to do a crossword puzzle.

[ZombieHorde]

47. The article says otherwise, and we don't have any proof he was exploiting his authority.

If there was proof he was excepting a bribe, then I would not argue in his defense.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

81. the radio interview with the fuckee

plus the images from the camera of the fucker...yeah, he took the bribe or solicited prostitution.

sP

[Lyric]

91. Are you serious?

The PHOTO shows him in uniform--that means he was on the job. When we put people into positions of public trust in that way, we do it with the understanding that they will be held to a higher standard than an ordinary person. I don't give a crap who fucks who in terms of private employment, but cops, judges, public schoolteachers and elected representatives are expected to behave according to a higher standard. They KNOW this when they sign up for the job--they agree to it in order to be trusted with that kind of power and authority.

If you don't like the social contract that public servants enter as a condition of employment, then quit your fucking job and go be a truck driver or a Wackenhut rent-a-cop, or better yet--don't apply for that job in the first place. You don't get to behave like a toddler who possesses neither willpower nor restraint and still keep that kind of public trust. If you're someone who thinks birth control pills are evil, then don't be a pharmacist, and if you're someone who thinks breaking the law and acting like a 14-year-old jackass while on the job is a great idea, then don't be a fucking cop.

And of COURSE he exploited his authority while on the job. How else would he even have MET this girl, if not for the fact that he had the authority to pull her over? Would she have agreed to having risky sex in broad daylight, right out in the open on the hood of her car, if he'd been just some random guy in normal clothes that she happened to meet? I seriously doubt it. Whether the girl consented or not is irrelevant to the question of whether or not he exploited his position. People who have power are very good at getting weaker people to technically "consent" to an abusive, exploitative situation.

Not to mention that he broke the law, and cops should be the LAST ones we tolerate lawbreaking from. So far as I know, having sex right out in the open like that is still considered a sex crime.

[blueamy66]

95. great post

nt

[formercia]

131. Agreed

I think he was very lucky to just getting fired.

The "Boys will be boys" crap doesn't cut it under the 'Color of Authority.' The Police are not some drunken College Fraternity, although they might act like it some times.

[seabeyond]

132. +1. well said. nt

[cwydro]

77. Having sex in public is against the law

in most places.

I would be arrested for it and so would you.

A cop is supposed to be enforcing the law...

At any rate, he is BREAKING the law.

Comparing doing a crossword puzzle to having sex in public...lmao!

[formercia]

134. Lost that spark. n/t

[wizstars]

89. And f**king on the clock is damned uncomfortable.....

....I think the hood was much better, although it might've been a tad warm if the engine had been running.....

[Blue_Tires]

114. for a summer i worked the graveyard desk shift at a hotel

middle of the night a young couple came and had sex in the pool...I thought it would be bad karma to narc them out, so I watched quietly from the office, unseen...A few days later I got fired for NOT calling security, lol...

It was a shitty job anyway -- easily one of the worst in my life...

[lumberjack_jeff]

133. Firing him? Arguably justified.

"Charged with a crime"? Uh, hell no.

[ZombieHorde]

36. I completely agree. They were just adults enjoying each other. nt

[FSogol]

110. Wouldn't you want your police force to use better judgment?

[Sherman A1]

5. And he wouldn't have known the camera was there?

Not perhaps one of his sharpest moments..........

[LuvNewcastle]

6. People who wear uniforms should be

careful what they do while wearing them. You never know who's watching.

[SpiralHawk]

7. The guy got screwed

it would seem.

[alphafemale]

10. welll....yaw. It's like...all out there on youtube and shit. nt

[Broderick]

15. Listened to the interview with the lady

that he boinked, and she was asked, was is it any good.. Her response was less than flattering. Poor guy.

[formercia]

16. Big Men with little Dicks

There seems to be a pattern emerging here.

[Broderick]

17. I think she more related to it being about him getting off.

But I get the point.

[formercia]

20. Big Men with no control?

I bet he didn't help clean-up either.

[Broderick]

21. I can pretty sure that she

didn't get cuddle time either. LOL.

[Johnyawl]

22. The lady also stated very clearly that she boinked him to get out of a ticket

...that alone is reason enough to fire him. I figured he was toast as soon as I heard her say that.

[Broderick]

26. And some think he ought not have lost his job

for agreeing to the act and relieving her of a ticket while relieving himself in her. Feel sorry for the dog.

[CanonRay]

19. Shows really bad judgement

which is not a quality I want in a police officer. I'd have fired him too.

[coalition_unwilling]

25. This police officer is lucky he only lost his job and was not arrested

and charged with sexual assault under color of authority as a LE officer. The lady in question said she had sex with him to get out of a ticket. In some circles, this is the equivalent of the police officer raping her. In other words, despite what others on this thread have written, this was not just (consensual) sex.

[ZombieHorde]

42. The bribery has not been proven. nt

[PotatoChip]

27. If the woman in question is to be believed, the officer accepted a bribe.

This story was posted about a week ago, and in that post, there was a link and audio clip from a local radio station who interviewed her. The woman said she had been pulled over for speeding in a remote area w/very little traffic. She admitted to having sex w/the officer because 'men in uniform turn her on' (or something to that effect- paraphrasing here)

Anyway, at the end of the interview (which btw was sort of a joking/lighthearted kind of thing) the woman, who did not allow the station to use her name, was asked if she still ended up w/a speeding ticket after the encounter. "Of course not" she said, laughing.

I'll see if I can find the link since the interview seems to conflict w/the statement in this yahoo account of the incident. See below... I wonder if these "investigators" agreed not to use her name in exchange for her not talking about the case any further, because her account clearly implies that the sexual encounter kept her from receiving a traffic ticket. That (imho) would mean the officer accepted a bribe.

From this OP's link...

The dismissal came days after investigators said the officer didn't commit a crime. Officials were assured the sexual encounter was not in exchange for anything related to his position as a law enforcement officer.

"It is an embarrassing situation for the department, but we have to remember the rights of the employee afford him due process we must follow so we won't be commenting further," said spokesman Sgt. Tim Johnson.

The department refused to release the identity of the woman or details about her relationship with the officer.

[Broderick]

29. on the radio she was pretty darn clear

that she got out of the ticket by offering herself up.

[PotatoChip]

31. Yep. It certainly sounded that way to me. n/t

[seabeyond]

28. he crossed the lines of ethics. he was willing to drop the ticket for sex

too fuzzy a line for coercion. has to be unacceptable and a clear line. with power, cums abuse.

[ZombieHorde]

41. I don't the bribery has been proven. If he is found guilty of bribery, then I agree with firing him,

but if he is not found guilty of bribery, then I don't see the benefit in firing him.

[seabeyond]

46. she would not have had sex if he was not willing to let the ticket go.

he used his position of power to get sex.

[ZombieHorde]

51. How do we know? Shouldn't innocent until proven guilty come into play?

Has the officer admitted to accepting a bribe? If one of them is guilty of bribery in this case, aren't both of them guilty of bribery?

[seabeyond]

53. she said she had sex so she wouldnt get a ticket. they investigated.

they came to their conclusions and fired the man. they appear to have chosen not to prosecute. that is what we know.

maybe he admitted to it. maybe he didnt. maybe they believed that young girl really had no desire to fuck the old man, but to get out of the ticket. amybe they felt that was an abuse of power. maybe they dont want their officers to play in such a fuzzy area. maybe they have a policy not to fuck on the job, or no fuckin a civilian so they wont have to pay a ticket.

[Broderick]

54. HOLY shit!

What a reflective post.

Has she admitted taking a bribe? YES. She said she had sex to get out of a ticket. Is that what this fucking country is coming to? Spread your legs and the COPS fuck you so you don't get a ticket? HOW god damn fucked up is that? He took advantage of a girl that wanted to fuck a uniform, and admitted to fucking a fireman, etc. She got out of a ticket fucking him, and then went on national radio to say it wasn't that good. This is fucked up anyway you look at it. In real terms, he raped a woman to not give her a ticket. If you remotely agree it was ok, then you condone rape. The next logical step is this condoning of his behavior is to say it's okay for a cop to ask a woman to pull down her panties and let him fuck her and she won't get a ticket while he wears a gun and a tazor. And then you will say it is okay to discriminate because the cop might not want to fuck a girl because he is not attracted to her. GET REAL.

[seabeyond]

55. it is really easy to see the next step. with stupid, add in fear to repercussion

fuck me and you wont have to suffer ______. young, afraid, a warrant with speeding ticket? fuck me and i wont haul you in to jail. are we really saying we want our cops to have this power?

i dont care about on the job, or waste of tax money. i do care about using it to intimidate for sex... rape, yes.

his moral and ethical compass is skewed. and with power that is not good.

[Broderick]

57. It is so wrong on multiple levels that I can't get past people

trying to actually defend it or feel sorry for it. OMG. It's pathological. Look, I am loving sex and I think it should be free and what not, but to have a cop fuck a chick to get out of a ticket and not get charged with anything and then have people actually feel sorry for him is fucked up. So when the Republicans come around and fuck the nubiles for breaks, it's obviously okay. The Brownshirts are coming. Prepare your daughters not to complain I guess. It's okay as long as it was mutually exclusive ticket evading. FUCK.

[bluestate10]

64. The issue that I should find surprising, but after months on DU, don't.

Is that one or two of the most virulent defenders of the rogue cop are among the most avid attackers of President Obama. How fucked up is that? In particular given the republican presidential field and the views that they are freely espousing to the fucked up followers.

[Broderick]

68. Amazing

[ZombieHorde]

71. You are shocking yourself. You have created a fantasy and have chosen to believe it.

This fantasy is not just about the police officer and the woman, but about me as well. Your fantasy is very interesting for me to read.

[ZombieHorde]

70. Although the scenario you describe is terrible, we don't really know happened yet.

No doubt, evil cop fantasies are entertaining, but I think facts make for a better basis for judgement.

[seabeyond]

76. you are ignoring the part of the story where the police investigated, prior to

making their decision.

i stated the facts we know.

her statement is, she had sex so she would not get a ticket. police investigated. he fired.

the "evil cop fantasies" is not far off this one. hm, lets see, sex to get away with whatever law was broken.

boy, had to be really creative to think that one out.

[ZombieHorde]

78. I saw that in the article, but the police are being hush-hush about it at this point.

I agree the fantasy is a simple one, but until we know the facts, it is just a fantasy. You may be right, but we don't really know.

[seabeyond]

79. my stating that allowing sex for a ticket, even with total, free, wanting consent

is poor policy cause it will allow a fuzzy line to be crossed of coercion is not a evil police fantasy. it is a reality. the police should and does have hard lines of unacceptable well before dire, for this reason. when power over others, rules and lines must be set.

[ZombieHorde]

101. The investigation claimed there was no sex for a ticket.

Obviously, the woman who claims to bribe police officers with sexual favors could be more reliable than all of the investigators, but we don't really know.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

60. if I had offered a cop $100 to get out of a ticket

or if he had suggested it and I paid it my ass would be in jai...either way, they should be charged with a crime...

sP

[bluestate10]

63. Are you surprised? Some people's moral clarity is suspect, at best. nt

[ZombieHorde]

69. The first step should be to discover the truth.

Just because she has said she was bribing the police officer, does not make it true.

I am sure you feel facts are important, don't you?

[Broderick]

94. What other fact could there possibly be?

She got pulled over. That is a fact. They don't know each other. They get pictured having sex on her car, with her dog watching. Could the fact be he pulled her over for posterity? LOL. Come on now. She offered herself up, there was a spark. They had sex. no ticket issued. If I were to even remotely offer a police officer a bribe, I would be in jail and if he took the bribe - how moral is that?

[ZombieHorde]

97. What evidence is there he pulled her over for speeding?

The article doesn't mention it. The investigators said there was no bribe involved.

[bluestate10]

61. And you have so much purity that you want Obama primaried. nt

[ZombieHorde]

75. Um, I think your response was meant for another thread.

I don't think this situation can be blamed on President Obama.

[TwilightGardener]

30. Well, that's what needed to happen. Unprofessional conduct.

[ZombieHorde]

35. Sex is more important, and wonderful, than pointless professional conduct.

How is firing this guy beneficial to anyone?

[TwilightGardener]

38. You can't be serious. Anyone who is on the job should be expected to do his or her job.

At the very least, this man was not doing his job--that taxpayers PAY for--on "company time". And then add to the fact that he is a police officer with a code of professional conduct to uphold. And then add to the fact that it appears he accepted a bribe. And then add to the fact that this gal could have been a criminal looking to disarm him and cause some trouble. So, so many reasons why he needed to be fired. I am pretty sure that in ANY job I've ever had, I would have been fired if caught or filmed having sex in a break room or supply closet.

[ZombieHorde]

40. If there is proof he took a bribe, than I would understand firing him, but if there is no proof,

then there is no benefit in firing him.

Are you really upset if someone takes a little unscheduled break? What if someone takes an extended lunch break?

Why make work more uptight than it needs to be? How do we benefit from this way of thinking?

[ProdigalJunkMail]

80. he took a bribe or solicited prostitution...

evidenced by the fact that she admits she fucked him to avoid the ticket...

sP

[ZombieHorde]

86. Or she lied, or the motivation was more vague than some imagine, etc. nt

[nosmokes]

84. there's video of the fat pig boinking the woman, FCOL.

How much plainer can it possibly be? What? Did you need to be there and sniff her quim after he was done?

[ZombieHorde]

85. I am not saying the sex is in question, I am saying the bribe is.

The woman says it was a bribe, but we don't know if she is telling the truth.

[bluestate10]

65. Your rationale is insane. The guy was rightfully fired.

Allowing that type of conduct from cops puts a target on everybody's backs that come across a rogue cop. No fear of punishment means that a rogue cop can ask for sex to not cite a citizen for a variety of offenses that a person should get and pay a ticket for, or go to jail for. Is that the society that you want to come about?

[ZombieHorde]

72. Rightfully fired for what? Your own sexual fantasies?

All we know is two people had sex on a hood of a car, and one of them was a police officer. We do not know if the police officer was duty, and we do not know if a bribe has taken place.

If a bribe did take place, then I would support the police officer's termination, but the situation should be proven first. Don't you agree?

[ProdigalJunkMail]

82. we DO know he was on duty

he had pulled her over for speeding...she fucked him to get out of the ticket...fantasy or no.

sP

[ZombieHorde]

87. What evidence is there he pulled her over for speeding?

The article doesn't mention it.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

92. the radio interview with the fuckee

in that interview (which was posted here on DU) she clearly states that she was pulled over for speeding (about 10 over).

sP

[ZombieHorde]

100. The investigation says otherwise.

"The dismissal came days after investigators said the officer didn't commit a crime. Officials were assured the sexual encounter was not in exchange for anything related to his position as a law enforcement officer."

[Broderick]

102. Sex in public, in uniform on the job is legal?

Who knew!

[ZombieHorde]

106. They were on private property, and we don't know how the ranch was set up. nt

[ProdigalJunkMail]

107. she got pulled for speeding

she fucked him
she didn't get a ticket

it was a bribe...period. i guess we can definitely trust the cops to police themselves and not be worried about further embarrassment by doing an actual investigation. if they had listened to the interview...they would know and since i HAVE listened to the interview, i know they didn't investigate shit or just don't care...

sP

[Broderick]

108. +1

[ZombieHorde]

119. Why do you believe she got pulled over for speeding?

That detail is not in the official story.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

122. there was an interview she gave to a local radio station

where she says she was pulled for going 10 over...i wish i had the link but i no longer can find the interview, but i am pretty sure i didn't hallucinate it. in the same interview she says that she did not get a ticket.

sP

[ZombieHorde]

123. We have two different versions of the details.

Both parties agree the sex happened, but only party says a bribe was involved. How do we pick which party to believe?

[seabeyond]

124. they said a crime was not committed but said nothing about if he pulled her over for speeding

just clarifying, but gotta tell you zombie, with your effort in this i think you should just get a win for time and effort and consistency. i dont generally see threads you put so much effort into, lol

:fistbump:

[ZombieHorde]

125. What can I say; I am a DU addict. nt

[ProdigalJunkMail]

126. oh, i am not saying it was 'offered' as a bribe

but rather was a de facto bribe. she may not have said, 'hey, if you don't give me the ticket, you can do me on the hood of the car' and he may not have said, 'i won't give you a ticket if you'll let me diddle you on the hood of your car' but that doesn't change the facts: she got pulled, she fucked him, she didn't get a ticket. de facto bribe complete. if i shoved a c-note in the guy's ticket book without saying a word and didn't get the ticket, it's still a bribe.

sP

[Tejas]

33. So, how many times has he done this?

[ZombieHorde]

34. Figures. Police officers who beat people seem to be treated better than

this guy, who just made love on the hood of a car.

I don't think this guy should be fired. Cops who have interesting love lives may be less likely to beat the shit out of other people.

[blueamy66]

98. made love?

did you really type that?

[seabeyond]

104. i know... bah hahaha

i let that go, but geeesh

[blueamy66]

115. funny stuff

nt

[DrunkenBoat]

39. La Bajada Ranch: county-owned & up for sale.

http://www.sothebyshomes.com/Santa-Fe-Real-Estate/sales/1090784.

[sabrina 1]

56. If he had kicked down someone's door and shot

the chihuahua dead instead of treating it to a 'how humans have sex' show, he would have kept his job! In fact he'd still be on the job if he had kicked down even the wrong door, shot a child, the family dog and the wrong suspect.

America needs to grow up and get its priorities in order, badly!

Outrage over a guy having sex in uniform and virtually none over cops who kill family pets and innocent people in the noble cause of the most insane 'war' ever 'fought', the Great American Drug War.

[Warren DeMontague]

58. You make an excellent point.

I think this guy exercised bad judgment, but assuming everyone was a consenting adult, I think the outrage is a bit overblown.

[bluestate10]

67. Lack of moral clarity over what is wrong or right does not make what the cop did right.

He dangerously violated the public trust and should have been fired. I would say the same, AND, that he should go to prison for a long time if he busted in a house, shot and killed the wrong person and made the remotest attempt to cover up his actions.

[sabrina 1]

111. He had sex. And the reality of the world we live in

is that whether we think cops who kill innocent men, women, children and family pets should go to jail for a long time, they do not. They don't even have to cover it up. Their superiors will do that for them.

When that changes, then yes, someone engaging in sexual behavior while on the job should be held accountable, maybe a suspension for several months without pay. But there is no comparison between his behavior and the long list of crimes committed by the police that are never punished.

[seabeyond]

116. you are the one comparing the two. nt

[Lyric]

129. He didn't just "have sex", he exploited that woman and abused his power.

Please stop with the "boys will be boys" crap. It's not about having sex, it's about abuse of his authority. The public trusted him NOT to take advantage of us in that way. He failed.

[ZombieHorde]

73. I completely agree. nt

[NOMOREDRUGWAR]

113. Bingo

NT

[killbotfactory]

66. He'd still have a job if only he beat someone half to death.

Live and learn.

[ZombieHorde]

88. Should have Bill Clinton been fired for having sex on the job? nt

[seabeyond]

90. he wasnt enforcing the law, nor cutting her a break for breaking the law by payment of a bj. nt

[ZombieHorde]

99. But the investigation said the police officer wasn't doing those things either.

"The dismissal came days after investigators said the officer didn't commit a crime. Officials were assured the sexual encounter was not in exchange for anything related to his position as a law enforcement officer."

[Lyric]

130. Yes, because police never lie to cover their own asses.

Also, lollipops grow on rainbow trees.

[Broderick]

103. It's legal for uniformed officers to fuck in public on the job

I just learned that!

[Major Hogwash]

117. So, now who got fucked?

:rofl:

[seabeyond]

120. lol. and just for a "eh". nt