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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:30 PM
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You know what would be EXTREMELY strange?
If America finally witnessed it's first African-American President only for him to eventually lose to an extremist far-right nationalist group like the Teahadists. What a juxtaposition that would be. For a moment in American history we rose above all the ignorance and broke down barriers only to then elect a bunch of racist, bigoted, anti-intellectual demagogue Neanderthal's like the current GOP.

Like, not even lose to a somewhat sane republican moderate (even though none exist) but America went full-blown paranoid racist xenophobic fascist dictatorship on us all. 200 years from now historians will be like WTF?!!! America won't even be the laughing stock of the world, but also the laughing stock to our future citizens and historians as well.

People all around the globe will look at America like we're freaking nuts. They won't understand why America, despite it's current slump, would want to dump an intelligent, calm, smart, young, hip, sane and completely rational Constitutional law professor for a moron from Texas with terrible education credentials and is a secessionist, or a lady who LITERALLY believes she hears the voice of God and has a husband who thinks he can 'pray the gay away'!

Seriously you guys, future citizens and historians and current citizens of the world will be laughing their arse's off at us.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:36 PM
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1. I don't know that people in the future would necessarily be laughing if the United States...
became a full-blown paranoid racist xenophobic fascist dictatorship.

Imagine Nazi Germany with enough nuclear firepower to end all life on Earth.

Not exactly "Hogan's Heroes" material.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:38 PM
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3. Ah, I see your point.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:38 PM
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2. I think this is the teapartiers last hurrah. I really think they are going to
tank each other in the primary race. I personally cannot wait for Palin to run. Then she and Bachmann can try and outdo each other with ending taxes on the rich or whatever. They cannot be controlled and actually believe this stuff.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:39 PM
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5. I'll tell you what, I'm so looking forward to the Obama vs. ? GOP debates.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:42 PM
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8. Yes. That too.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 04:35 AM
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20. It's going to be Name That Crazy Tune
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anAustralianobserver Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 03:22 AM
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15. I agree, and that's why I think the GOP plan is to implode Bachmann-Perry-Palin quickly and put up
Edited on Mon Sep-05-11 03:49 AM by anAustralianobserver
a Huntsman/DeMint or Huckabee/DeMint ticket or similar. I can't imagine a Perry winning the presidency without a doozy of an October surprise against Obama.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 03:54 AM
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17. DeMint is out of his fucking mind.
Edited on Mon Sep-05-11 03:55 AM by Enthusiast
And Huntsman has openly declared that we must CUT social security. I won't even bother to comment on Huckabee.
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anAustralianobserver Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 04:02 AM
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19. Yeah my point is their best shot is an establishment guy with a cool temperament at the top and
a token Tea Partier in the VP slot.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:38 PM
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4. I'm no expert, but I think people around the globe already think we're freaking nuts
and current citizens of the world already laugh their arses off at us...those that aren't just horrified, or who are being actively oppressed by our pathetic attempts to maintain hegemony.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:40 PM
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6. Our healthcare system alone has them thinking we're insane.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 03:56 AM
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18. Ain't that the truth. nt
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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:17 AM
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10. Yeah, pretty much. nt
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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:40 PM
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7. That would be
The end of this country as anything but a laughing stock...
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:47 PM
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9. People around the globe are ALREADY looking at us like we're nuts;
'WE' ARE!
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:28 AM
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11. Actually, the lurch toward racism doesn't surprise me at all
We had to know it would happen the first time a non-white was elected. It is a pendulum swing, and will even itself out, now that the barrier has been broken.

As bold leader, Obama leaves a lot to be desired. Maybe the bridge building skills required to break down that barrier are exactly what keeps him from working effectively now that he's in office? Still, he will always get props for being the first - navigating that path took tremendous skill.
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anAustralianobserver Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 03:44 AM
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16. I have to think he'd be much more effective with the mandate of winning a second term.
Edited on Mon Sep-05-11 04:14 AM by anAustralianobserver
The racists will get their precious white father figure back in 2017 (if they don't die in the meantime). But that will probably be another Dem man or woman so it will only be a stepfather or stepmother figure for them.:nopity:
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 01:33 AM
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12. But they'll allow stable, reasonable Jeb Bush to ride in and save us all
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 01:52 AM
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13. The Obama Presidency reminds me of the reconstruction era.....
and what may happen after that will be close to the Redemption Era-
1 step forward, and 4 steps back. :(

Redemption Era
With the Compromise of 1877, Army intervention in the South ceased and Republican control collapsed in the last three state governments in the South. This was followed by a period that white Southerners labeled Redemption, in which white-dominated state legislatures enacted Jim Crow laws and (after 1890) disfranchised most blacks and many poor whites through a combination of constitutional amendments and electoral laws. The white Democrat Southerners' memory of Reconstruction played a major role in imposing the system of white supremacy and second-class citizenship for blacks, known as the age of Jim Crow.<5> The Democratic Party monopolized the "New South" into the 1960s, when the civil rights and voting rights of African Americans were finally protected and enforced under new federal laws passed by the US Congress.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_Era_of_the_United_States

The Reconstruction Era lasted 12 years,
and the Redemption Era lasted 87 years.
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anAustralianobserver Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 03:13 AM
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14. Interesting point. Rec.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 11:00 AM
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21. Or they might wonder
why an intelligent, calm, smart, young, hip, sane and completely rational Constitutional law professor continued the policies of a moron from Texas with terrible education credentials and is a secessionist.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:50 PM
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22. People make way too much out of Obama's race and the "historic" election.
I don't care what color or gender somebody is, or if the election is "historic".
The ONLY thing that matters to me is whether he or she will STAND for these traditional Democratic Party Values:
"In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.

Among these are:

*The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

*The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

*The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

*The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

*The right of every family to a decent home;

*The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

*The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

*The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.

America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens.

For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world."---FDR


"Historic" means NOTHING if somebody won't fight for the above values.
After all,
Clarence Thomas is black.


You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

Solidarity!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:51 PM
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23. That's one reason I think the left should have his back
Even those insane enough to insist they think Rs and Ds are not much different - like if they really believe that, then they should make sure the first AA Pres. is reelected so that the racists can't say "see he couldn't do it."

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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:54 PM
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24. That's some of your loopiest "logic" yet.
Bra-vo.
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ProgressoDem Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 12:59 PM
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25. Haha, what?
How is that loopy?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 01:19 PM
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26. For those that assert D and R are not much different
It makes perfect sense. That's what a real progressive would look at, anyway, as a reason to vote D rather than R, if they truly believed their policies were not much different.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 01:25 PM
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27. The explosion of racism triggered by Obama's election has been deeply shocking to me.
I grew up under the illusion that racism was not a big problem any more. I was wrong.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 01:32 PM
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28. Wish I could say the same.
I'm not surprised at all. I live in the land of Joe "You Lie!" Wilson. In fact, thanks to redistricting, that fucking fucker is going to be my Congressional representative. I see and hear the racism all the time. It's often veiled, but it's rampant among many circles around here.

No, I am not painting all Southerners as racist. I saw the same kind of shit back in Chicago. Only, it wasn't always as obvious as it is here.
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