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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:14 PM
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82% of Obama Voters Will Vote To Reelect Him If He Raises Taxes On The Rich
http://www.politicususa.com/en/obama-2012-taxes-rich

A new survey of Obama voters by Survey USA found that by a margin of 82%-18% they are more likely to support him again in 2012 if he raises taxes on the rich.

The good news for Obama is that 66% of those who voted for him in 2008 approve of his handling of the economy compared to 27% who disapprove. Sixty three percent of those who disapprove are doing so because they believe that Obama has been too willing to compromise with Republicans. The president’s voters made it very clear what they want. Eighty one percent of those who voted for Obama said that they want to see the president lay out a broad jobs plan next week. Only 16% wanted him to focus on smaller measures.

What Obama voters don’t want is any kind of deal that would cut government programs in exchange for GOP support of his jobs plan. Forty one percent of respondents said that they would be less likely support his reelection campaign if Obama cuts government programs, and 21% said that they would be more likely to support him in 2012. Thirty two percent said that it made no difference in their support if the president cut government programs. Over 2/3 of Obama voters (67%) said that they would be less likely to support him in 2012 if he cuts Social Security or Medicare.

It is clear what Obama voters want. They want entitlements left alone, and they want a big jobs plan that doesn’t compromise with the GOP. It looks like his voters are willing to stick by him as long as he goes big, and leaves entitlements out of the discussion.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:15 PM
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1. and how does he do that since it needs to pass the (R)s in Congress?
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:19 PM
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3. Pretty much what I was thinking.
Nothing is going to get past the Congress.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:28 PM
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6. Not quite. The Bush tax cuts are dead: they were killed by the debt deal, actually.
The debt deal assumes the standard CBO projections as it's basis for establishing spending caps. Those projections include the end of the Bush tax cuts next year.

In simpler language, the only way that the Reps could stop the expiration of the Bush tax cuts is to find spending cuts equal to them, cuts which would never pass the Senate.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:49 PM
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33. Indeed, the debt deal, which many people still don't get, assumes Bush tax cuts.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:23 PM
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5. Ask the pollsters who created a misleading question
but it does give a sense of what people want from him.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:34 PM
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10. It doesn't have to.
The Bush Tax Cuts are coming up for renewal. Doing nothing ends them. All he has to do is veto any bill renewing them and convince 40 Democrats in the Senate to have some backbone.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 05:30 PM
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22. they are extended through 2012
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:52 PM
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27. But not afterward.
And whoever is in the White House in 2013 will have a hard time bringing them back if they're allowed to expire.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:11 PM
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28. Exactly, both sides want to run on this issue in 2012
and you will hear our side voicing the side that 80% of people polled say they want while the other side has no choice but to voice opposition



Pres. Obama has been planning on this already, no news here.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:48 PM
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31. Exactly. He'll be reelected in a landslide.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:37 PM
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12. Remember how efficiently he built support for himself to get elected? He was a genius at it.
Edited on Sat Sep-03-11 02:38 PM by Sarah Ibarruri
That gift he has of gab? Of getting his base to rally around him? Of getting us to do just about anything for him?

THAT'S HOW.

It will not happen if he continues to hide and act mute, and smile at Repugnicans and give them everything they want.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:44 PM
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16. Any time he speaks this place explodes with "pretty speeches" blah blah blah.
Edited on Sat Sep-03-11 02:44 PM by JoePhilly
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:16 PM
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19. That's fine. Nothing wrong with admiring the president, but he needs to grow a pair
A pair of BIG ONES, and keep the well being of the majority in mind, not of the mega-rich-and-corporate minority that has been controlling us for decades.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:40 PM
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15. Not to mention that he has to rally us against the Democrats-in-name-only. AGAINST them.
Just as we are against the Repukes.

If he doesn't get serious about this presidency, and is merely planning the next campaign, he will not get the votes he needs to get back in.

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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:46 PM
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17. LOL that is the most asinine remark I've read.
Obviously dividing the Democratic Party won't be on the Presidents agenda. Too bad it's on others.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:15 PM
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18. The Republicans on our side have to go to the other side, since they sabotage us every time nt
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:26 PM
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21. There are no republicans on our side.
That is the myth of the internets.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:42 PM
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29. Some have changed their label and call themselves Democrats
But they're really not.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:16 PM
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2. It'll never happen. The employee never gets to dictate what his employers do with their money.
And make no mistake, our government is now wholly under the employ of the super-rich.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:22 PM
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4. Too bad all he has is the "bully pulpit"
If he only could just make some of this stuff happen by decree....
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:29 PM
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7. President Obama can't raise taxes on anyone.
I guess we're screwed...
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:38 PM
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13. He can go to Congress and ask them to.
People get confused as to what he can and cannot do.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 06:45 PM
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25. He has done that already more than once. Congress refused.
Actually, they more or less just ignored him, which they can do, since they control the House of Representatives, where all taxation and funding bills have to begin. You're right. People don't know what a President can do or not do. People don't really understand how our government works, for the most part. Only a minority of people bothers with such things. More's the pity.
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:48 PM
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32. Ask the repukes what? Raise taxes on their rich asses?
lol!

Okay.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:29 PM
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8. He has said on many occasions that he intends to raise taxes on the rich
Wishy-washy Democrats need to start listening.
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:19 PM
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20. It could have happened at the end of last year if not for the Bush tax cuts being extended.
Head-in-the-sand Democrats need to remember that.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:33 PM
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9. It's one way he can lock down my vote
which is on the fence right now. I'm 90% leaning towards him but I'll commit the whole way if he does what needs to be done to really solve the problem.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:36 PM
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11. Count me among those. nt
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:39 PM
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14. MIDDLE CLASS Republicans
also saying tax the RICH. Heard that from my husband, and his coworkers. NONE of them makes over $250,000 a year.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 05:32 PM
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23. he can't, not as long as the GOP controls the house. As others have noted.
He can, however, forcefully advocate such a thing. Which would be good.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 05:39 PM
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24. K&R. Yes please!
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:16 PM
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26. Republicans appear to have made their choice perhaps for all time, now it is Obama's turn.
Who will Obama choose?
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:44 PM
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30. uh YEAH!
But he only cares about the top 2% that pay for the propaganda.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 09:35 PM
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34. They might be in a for rude shock.
Tax reform is on debt committee's table with the administration's endorsement. The wealthy may end up paying a rate even lower than the Bush 35% rate which would, of course, supersede that rate and eliminate the need for them to be extended.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:38 PM
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35. I won't be surprised if he champions lowering taxes for the rich.
When he had a majority in both Congresses he spent most of his energies trying to be friends with the Republicans.
Since then he has moved farther and farther right.
He seems to be a Republican wannabe who can't get into the club.
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