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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 09:42 AM
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Union of Concerned Scientists: President Obama Undercuts Science with Smog Standard Delay


News Release
September 2, 2011

President Obama Undercuts Science with Smog Standard Delay
Statement by Francesca Grifo, Scientific Integrity Program Director


WASHINGTON (September 2, 2011) — President Obama today asked the Environmental Protection Agency to ignore its obligation under the Clean Air Act to update ground-level ozone pollution standards for the United States based on the best available science. Because of President Obama’s decision, the ground-level ozone standards will remain outside the scientifically acceptable range of between 60 and 70 parts per billion recommended by an independent scientific advisory committee and EPA scientists in 2007.

Below is a statement by Francesca Grifo, senior scientist and director of the Union of Concerned Scientists' Scientific Integrity Program:

“This delay is shocking. President Obama’s decision will leave us with a rule that flouts the Clean Air Act and ignores science. They've allowed politics to trump science at the expense of the American people’s health. The law requires EPA to update a new standard based solely on the science. Scientific recommendations were finalized five years ago. But when industry objected, the administration accepted the industry’s economic scare tactics at face value.

“This is a dangerous precedent for every science-based public health, safety and environmental protection we enjoy.

“The blame here rests squarely on the White House. EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson has consistently reaffirmed that the EPA can only consider public health science when setting the standard. Cost considerations are appropriate when it’s time to implement the standard. But the White House decided to go back on its promise, ignore the science and cave to industry pressure.

“Good science is always being refined, but waiting for the next scientific assessment on public health risks from EPA is no excuse for delaying action now. Every delay makes more people sick.”


The Union of Concerned Scientists is the leading U.S. science-based nonprofit organization working for a healthy environment and a safer world. Founded in 1969, UCS is headquartered in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and also has offices in Berkeley, Chicago and Washington, D.C.

http://www.ucsusa.org/news/commentary/president-obama-undercuts-science-smog-0558.html
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 10:05 AM
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 10:08 AM
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2. He isn't making it worse, he's delaying implementation of new regs.
So it's status quo for now. Why is that a big deal when we really can't afford to make big changes in our current malaise?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 10:11 AM
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3. Why would anyone wish to change the current malaise?
When the top one percent are profiting so handsomely from it?

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 10:12 AM
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:07 AM
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7. Yeah... He's Not Making It Worse... He's Continuing The Current Suckage...
Hope & Change...

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:28 AM
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9. Because delaying it means it will die a slow political death
The Democratic party had a few progressive victories to point to and this was one of them. Well, not anymore as it will be in limbo. The Montreal Protocol worked because it was swift and decisive, not fence sitting about what needed to be done.

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 01:41 PM
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18. That's funny, you're funny!
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tgal Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:39 PM
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46. Oh my god...
just fucking unbelievable....
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Cool Logic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:02 AM
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5. "..White House decided to go back on its promise, ignore the science and cave to industry pressure."
Actually, the White House was more concerned about People pressure, than industry pressure. Increased energy costs, rolling blackouts, etc., is not something that Americans will tolerate.

Clearly, it makes sense to make to pull the plug voluntarily, rather than being forced to make that decision subsequent to its effects being felt by the People.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:46 AM
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11. Talk about political spin!
Edited on Sat Sep-03-11 11:47 AM by Better Believe It

And they talked about Republicans trying to put lipstick on a pig!

Which they did attempt to do.

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Cool Logic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:23 PM
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23. Well, if you believe that 71,684 pages of tax code and 134,723 pages of fedregs...
were created to "help the People," you might be a little bit naive.

Why do you think 1% of the population controls 38% of the wealth?

Answer: Because our fedgov Representatives let them have it. They let the K-Street boys and girls turn our free-market economy into a tightly regulated-market economy, that benefits their contributors, restricts the People and costs them $1.75 trillion/yr.

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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 04:13 PM
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24. Maybe you could just make something up?
The consequences you cite are unverified industry propaganda. The required improvements under the new standard would have created jobs and saved lives in the process. If that message can't be sold, they aren't trying.
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:28 AM
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35. There is nothing cool
about your logic. Your fear mongering about rolling blackouts, increased rates and such is merely repetition of industry talking points. It's the new "we can only afford to keep the lights on if we kill ourselves to do it" fallacy. What you're really saying is that clean air is not in the financial interests of those who run Washington and make a living from dirty power and show no inclination to invest in cleaning it up.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:03 AM
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6. What does the Union of Disappointed Scientists Say?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:23 AM
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8. What an inane statement ... by trying to marginalize the UNC.
i rather like and respect former nobel laureates and an organizational membership of over 250,000.

Maybe I read you wrong.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 01:17 PM
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13. Clearly, anti-intellectualism isn't just for freepers anymore. n/t
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:11 PM
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49. or so it seems---personality politics trumps science again
Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 07:12 PM by Supersedeas
remember there was the same sort of reaction to science by those who identified with the cowboy President
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:16 PM
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54. Yes, they were proud of Bush for thumbing his nose at those fancypants knowitalls.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 01:27 PM
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14. Ah jeez
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 06:30 PM
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26. How many interest groups are you willing to sacrifice?
UCS is well-regarded by many who care about the environment.

Tesha
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 06:43 PM
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27. But they've never been the president!
They need to be president for a while, and then they can talk!

What do they know?

:sarcasm:
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:26 PM
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39. Obvious they never loved him either!
That list is growing by the minute. Probably a bunch of racists too!
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:13 PM
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42. They are meaniebutts!!!!!
:cry:
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 10:33 PM
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29. I'm actually embarrassed for you.
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xocet Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:54 PM
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40. Wow! Are you going to throw science under the bus? The Republican Party Wants You.... n/t
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:19 PM
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52. political fanaticism
and the power of belief
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tgal Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:41 PM
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47. More ignorance on display
sickening and ignorant.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:32 AM
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10. Welcome to the Enemies List, scientists of the world.
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 01:34 PM
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16. How sad and tragic
Scientists are now made fun of on a progressive site. :-(
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 01:39 PM
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17. They're in good company. Greenwald, Kucinich, Hamsher. Rationality is so passe.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:59 AM
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12. The Union of Concerned Scientists never supported PBO. n/t
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 01:31 PM
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15. The Union of Concerned Scientists never really loved him! It's just one smog regulation!
Didn't the Union of Concerned Scientists support Hillary in the primary? They weren't talking about smog under a white president, just sayin'.

There, I saved The Usual Suspects the trouble.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 01:41 PM
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19. Careful there, Leftymom,
lest someone comes along to accuse you of being one of those ubiquitous "critics" I keep reading about. You know the ones who can't think for themselves, are being duped by people spreading disinformation, or worse yet, a paid operative trying to divide Democrats. Old Joe must be laughing his ass off right about now.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 10:40 PM
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30. Don't you care about the American worker?
If we roll back our environmental and worker protections to somewhere south of China, then we can be competitive on the global market!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 10:54 PM
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31. He's taking a moderate position on breathable air.
Those asthmatics are just a bunch of pouting, wheezy whiners.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:04 AM
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32. Breathing = a pony
n/t
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 08:43 AM
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34. And his daughter, Malia is an asthmatic!
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 08:39 AM
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33. Poor air quality disproportionately impacts minorities says Michelle Obama.
Edited on Sun Sep-04-11 08:41 AM by Divernan
Michelle Obama actually wrote that the asthma "epidemic" disproportionately affects minority communities.

http://www.achooallergy.com/blog/obama-child-asthma /


In a new book titled "Healthy Child, Healthy World," Michelle Obama calls for increased efforts at asthma education and prevention.

Michelle and Barack Obama's daughter Malia suffers from asthma, and they do everything they can to keep their house dust-free and dander-free. When the Obama family decided to enter the Presidential race, they made a deal that their daughters could get a dog. After some research, the parents opted for a hypoallergenic dog - a soft-coated, Wheaten terrier - that does not trigger Malia's asthma.

"Parents of children with asthma need to know how to reduce the chances of an attack, how to treat an attack if it happens, and when to go to the hospital," writes Obama. "Irritants and allergens in the air, such as smoke, dust mites, pet dander, cockroaches, mold, and pollen, can make attacks more likely. So parents who have children with asthma should keep houses clean of potential triggers.

"But that's not all of it. The number of children with asthma has more than doubled since the 1980s, and this epidemic disproportionately affects minority communities. As a society, we need to help parents in the inner city live in clean environments that aren't dangerous to their children's health.

________________________________________________--
Evidently it's OK for THIS president to negatively impact minorities.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:00 PM
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20. Scientists! Hum bug! What do they know with their stupid theories and stuff?
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:31 PM
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21. Buncha Professional Thinker-ists, is what they are. They should stop taking ... tea or whatever.


:D
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:36 PM
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22. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, Better Believe It.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 05:18 PM
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25. Damn scientists with their fancy degrees and their microscopes and all that other flibbertigibbet!
Tellin' us we came from apes and smog is bad for us and all that other foofaraw!

What do they know?
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 09:58 AM
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36. Flibbertigibbet & foofaraw for all! nt
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:18 PM
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56. I wouldn't give a plug nickel for them eggheads! n/t
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 10:08 PM
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28. Science Schmience
Who needs it.

Bring back the good old days








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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:32 PM
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37. k&r
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:23 PM
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38. Undercuts science and economics in one fell swoop.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:52 PM
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43. That's the efficient way! n/t
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 04:48 PM
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44. And so sensible.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 07:54 PM
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45. Pragmatic, too. n/t
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:17 PM
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51. and forward-looking
bipartisan
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:15 PM
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53. Pragmatically progressive. n/t
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Goldfish Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 08:09 PM
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41. Wow!
Just remembered that I need to send in my membership
renewal to this group!
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 06:55 PM
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48. Science based policies should be the norm... Money trumps peace
Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 06:55 PM by midnight
and in this case common sense.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:15 PM
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50. UCS are right-wing operatives
or they never really supported the president. Or they're racists. Or they all want ponies. President Bachmann.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 11:10 PM
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58. They are poutrageous puristic pony-demanders. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:16 PM
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 11:09 PM
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57. The curious thing is that when someone really gets tough on the TeaPubliKlans
there tends to be no shortage of "pragmatists" defending them or pleading for civility or telling a fable of some gruff puke with a heart O gold that can go hardly a day without giving the shirt off his back to a neighbor/friend/family member in need.

The other interesting thing is that crappy and demonstrated to be failed Republican policy is quickly rehabbed if rolled out by the appropriate party or politician.
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