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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:35 AM
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Tell me it isn't true. Weiner is about to be replaced by a tea partier??
Anthony Weiner, one of the most liberal members of Congress is in danger of being raplaced by Tea Partier Bob Turner. The alternative is David Weprin who was chosen to run by Dems in a backroom deal. What a choice.

http://ednotesonline.blogspot.com/2011/09/today-in-wave-i-have-feeling-we-may-be.html
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:40 AM
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1. Good...
All those Dems who screamed him out of office deserve to have their noses rubbed in the results of their actions.

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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:54 AM
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3. Weiner's actions were the problem.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:55 AM
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4. So it's okay for an elected official to take pics of his weiner and post them on the internet
Gotcha.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:59 AM
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6. You're getting what you wanted..
A different representative for that district..

My personal opinion is that if Weiner was a ConservaDem the arguments would have been quite different and involved different people.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:14 AM
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11. What I want doesn't really matter since I don't live in his district
I would just rather not have elected officials taking pictures of their yankers and posting them on the internet. :shrug:
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:20 AM
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16. That's fairly far down my list of things I'd rather not have elected officials doing..
Up near the top is things like taking bribes (de facto if not de jure) from wealthy interests to screw over the vast majority of their constituents in a wholesale manner.

I suspect we're about to get a representative that will be doing just that shortly.

Mission Accomplished.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:24 AM
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18. Weiner had lost the respect of way too many Americans
How much good could he have done?

I loved him. He was a great progressive. But that doesn't matter when he's ineffective.

I also refuse to blame anyone else for Weiner going down. He did that all by himself.
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:47 AM
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29. Exactly!
It is a sad commentary about our democratic republic but so true.
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:24 AM
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17. I thought it was funny. It was a childish thing to do but didn't break any law
Meanwhile Joe Wilson is a deadbeat dad which is a crime, but hey we deserve what we are seeing since you are outraged by what Weinder did. My relatives outside the U.S. were laughing at us given how backwards are priorities are.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:27 AM
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19. Your relatives outside the US can't vote here
And I can't vote in Weiner's district. Can't vote for Wilson either. But it does appear he is being redistricted out of office.

I'm just having a hard time understanding how a district that elected a progressive like Weiner is set to elect a tea partier. It's just bizarre.
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:35 AM
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24. Too bad the voters of Weiner's district had no say on his future
This is pay back because the Democratic party threw Weiner under the bus, so not surprising they want to inflict pain on the Democrats.

Poor choice by the Democratic leadership to go forth with their witchhunt of Weiner.

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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:40 AM
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26. Kind of destructive stance there, pardner.
You're implying that hurting everyone is a small price to pay for teaching other Democrats a lesson. There are so many things wrong with that angle that I hardly know where to begin, but for starters, Anthony Weiner made a serious of decisions that betrayed his wife, made him look like a cad and a fool, and there's a record of the whole thing.

Other Democrats are not the problem here.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:48 AM
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30. You're happy a Republican might beat a Democrat?...
Well, that's an interesting position to take.

Sid
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:50 AM
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33. No
but that is the truth. I was happy with Weiner in office despite not being my rep.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 09:22 AM
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36. It wouldn't be happening if *other* Democrats hadn't piled on Weiner..
It's the comeuppance from the pile on I'm happy about.

As I said earlier, I think if Weiner was a Blue Dog the entire conversation would have been very different with different people on different sides.

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:42 AM
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2. Money talks.... and it says Weiner was bad for the "the agenda"
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:57 AM
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5. If one were paranoid, one might think that there was a bipartisan effort
afoot to trash the libruls and replace them with 3rd way people, or if they lose to teabaggers, so be it. 3rd way (DLC) being founded also by the US Chamber of Commerce way before the Teabagger Party to fight progressives and grassroots.

One might think that, if one were paranoid.

And since one needs links to be paranoid, here are a couple:

http://mydd.com/2006/12/13/tom-donahue-the-gang-of-6-and-red-america

(snip)

Donahue is really smart, and the Chamber isn't going away. If you read the full article, you'll see that he hired Al From, head of the DLC, to make sure that right-wing policies succeed in both parties.

(end snip)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A64725-2005Feb4?language=printer

(snip)

The chamber has hired the Swiss Guard of paid consultants from both political parties. Several showed up at a recent dinner hosted by Donohue at the chamber, including Al From, chief executive of the Democratic Leadership Council; Thomas F. "Mack" McLarty, who was White House chief of staff in the Clinton administration; and Scott W. Reed, who was Bob Dole's 1996 presidential campaign manager.

(end snip)


If one were, ya know, paranoid. /sarcasm off
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:16 AM
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13. The DLC took pics of his junk and sent them across the internet?
And then made him go on TV and claim he was framed?

I think he should have stayed in office, but he did this to himself.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:28 AM
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20. Bingo!
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:32 AM
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22. No, not what I said, but they certainly didn't back him when he needed help.
I am glad you think he should have stayed in office. On that we can agree. So did his constituents.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:34 AM
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23. How could they have helped him?
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:50 AM
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32. Well,
Edited on Sat Sep-03-11 08:56 AM by deminks
1. They could have backed his effort to get professional counseling. It's allowed with alcoholism, gambling.
2. They could have supported his stance to keep his office. How many thugs have stayed in office now with the support of the Republican party?
3. They knew his district would be changed at the time this happened. They could have supported giving him the remainder of his term.
4. His support among his constituents was increasing in the polls when they told him to go. They could have supported his constituents opinions as well.

There may be others, these are off the top of my head.

(They being conservadems. I know Pelosi told him to go, but at first she supported him, IIRC).






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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:40 AM
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27. I don't know what they could have done
to help the guy.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:01 AM
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7. This was so unnecessary.
Weiner's constituents continue to pay the price for his stupidity.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:12 AM
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8. They're the ones voting.
If they choose the Tea Partier, shame on them.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:16 AM
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12. That's true, but there would be no need to vote
Edited on Sat Sep-03-11 08:27 AM by TheCowsCameHome
if Weiner hadn't acted so foolishly.

I hope this opens some eyes re: any future stupid actions by Dem politicians.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:13 AM
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9. "Who the #@$% else ya gonna vote for, chumps?"
As long as Democrats stay a sliver to the right of the Republicans, we'll win every time, no?

Oh, maybe not.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:14 AM
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10. Why would the same district switch that much?
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:37 AM
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25. Payback against the betrayal of the Democratic party of Weiner
I laugh at the people that said Weiner would be forgotten.

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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:18 AM
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14. A fair and balanced new source you chose. I have only one reaction:
:puke:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:31 AM
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21. It's a blogger who lives in Weiner's district
And he's widely read by teachers and others following ed policy.

Now which part of his piece do you doubt? Is the tea partier NOT going to win?
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:18 AM
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15. That doesn't make a lick of sense.
I don't see the very same people who voted Weiner in, voting a tea bagger in. :crazy:
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:44 AM
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28. People are angry at the establishment all over the country
in this case the Democratic party that back stabbed Weiner.

Massive political miscalculation by the Democratic party.
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:50 AM
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31. Still doesn't make a lick o' sense.
So, to 'punish' Dems, they are going to vote in a tea bagger, thus screwing themselves royally?

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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:52 AM
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34. Based on the 2010 election results
the current trend among voters is to vote in new faces. In theory that sounds plausible as you may see a change in approach instead of business as usual but as the 2008 and 2010 elections showed nothing has changed really in Washington D.C.

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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:58 AM
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35. Recced
I didn't know which way to go on this one, but some of the ridiculous replies make this thread great.
:D
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