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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:59 PM
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What idiot "centrist" Dems want isn't what America wants
RI SEP 02, 2011 AT 10:36 AM PDT
What idiot "centrist" Dems want isn't what America wants
bykos

How's that "center" looking? Obama's approval ratings, per Gallup:

These idiot "centrist" Democrats think their disastrous approach to governing is somehow winning the mythical American "middle", but it's clearly and objectively not.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/09/02/1012893/-What-idiot-centrist-Dems-want-isnt-what-America-wants?via=siderecent
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:05 PM
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1. I think they know that.
I think they also know which side of their bread is buttered.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:06 PM
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2. recommend
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Mr Deltoid Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:07 PM
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3. There have been many polls out lately saying the same thing
That Obama is driving independents away. 'Centrism' has failed. Time for Obama to step back into the light.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:07 PM
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4. Independents aren't necessarily "middle".
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:17 PM
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Then why is the Administration focusing
on "centrist" voters...these mythical voters that don't exist. Most Independents are actually progressive.

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 03:32 PM
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14. conventional wisdom is killing off real wisdom
It takes enormous guts and stamina to fight the "official" narrative. They don't have either, apparently.
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:17 PM
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7. DP.
Edited on Fri Sep-02-11 02:02 PM by Harmony Blue

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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:08 PM
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5. wanna bet someone is going to post that hes got 80% liberal approval?
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:26 PM
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8. 78% liberal approval, according to the poll cited in the OP
Edited on Fri Sep-02-11 01:27 PM by MilesColtrane
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 03:04 PM
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11. I'm one of those in the Liberal 78% Approval group.
In every public poll,
I give Obama the highest marks possible,
but in real life, I wouldn't cross the street to help him jump start his car.

I strongly DISAPPROVE of his "Centrism",
his willingness to swerve to The RIGHT,
his pandering To Wall Street and BIG Corporations,
his neglect (at times contempt) for LABOR,
his marginalization of traditional Democratic Party institutions,
and his refusal to FIGHT for traditional Democratic Values,
.
.
.
....but in every single poll, I STILL give him the highest marks possible.
I'm NOT the only Liberal Democrat who does this.
Funny, isn't it?
Must be an ego thing.

That 78% number looks good on paper,
but it can be deceptive,
especially when answering NO on "approval" can be mis-interpreted as a APPROVAL for Republican policy.


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone


photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed


Solidarity!
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 03:30 PM
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13. I would definitely jump start his car.
And I'd follow him home to make sure he got there safely.

I don't think I could bring myself to *disapprove* of him in a poll, unless there were a mechanism to make clear that I was disapproving from the left.

But I'm not a happy camper.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:28 PM
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9. But we'll still get blamed when the election goes south
worry not!
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:16 PM
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6. Obama is faith based ideolog and he will stick to his ways
not matter what the results. Bipartisanship and opposing marriage equality are the whole of the man's ideas. Without that, he is not even visible.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:01 PM
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10. his numbers are up with conservatives just as he wants them
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 03:21 PM
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12. Let's not call them idiots.
But you are right. Their strategy is not working. The centrism comes across as weakness to independent voters.

I kind of wish President Obama was not going to be our nominee in 2012, but since that is a foregone conclusion, it is crucial that he wins. Better a centrist Dem than any of the Republicans.

But if he's going to win, the White House needs to start sending out a stronger message. Some kind of line-in-the-sand about Social Security and Medicare would be very helpful, although that would now require some backtracking.
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