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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:15 PM Original message |
Obama’s newest jobs plan for the unemployed: Go work for free! |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. Cool, way to screw over single parents, |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
212. So true. And wait -- so the government (we, the broke people) will be paying for this with taxes? |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #212 |
213. And BTW... FUCK CANTOR! Who CARES what he says? Tea partiers are a MINORITY. nt |
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krhines (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #212 |
223. I will be at freedom square |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #223 |
285. Hope to finally meet you, mod mom. n/t |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. NPR covered this this morning. Just appalling! |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
151. This used to be called "Indentured Servitude" |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #151 |
251. It's the new normal. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #151 |
295. I was called apprenticeship. IF you got the job! |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. Right. We've got to rethink this whole unemployment compensation thing, paying people to not work |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. The problem is that we do need to "rethink" it, but not the way they are doing it |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. Do you seriously think they would be better off being paid to not work than being paid... |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
64. When you're one electric bill or one unemployment check away from homelessness |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Point taken. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #69 |
104. No - The "sacrifice" is the value of their labor! Or don't they "own" even that? |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #104 |
150. Thank you, |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
143. "currently $240, if they agree to work 24 hours a week" |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:36 AM Response to Reply #143 |
176. a one time payment, no more next week, next month, or next year. Cheap |
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sce56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:44 AM Response to Reply #143 |
177. I'm sure the panhandlers make more than that in a week! And there are plenty of them now days! |
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walerosco (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #143 |
239. This is one of the lamest ideas ever |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
68. Do you seriously think the companies that take advantage of this will actually train anyone |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #68 |
99. Deleted message |
DollyM (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 02:17 AM Response to Reply #99 |
189. I could see this being very useful in social service programs that have been cut |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:51 AM Response to Reply #189 |
205. Thanks for that perspective. I agree. There are some instances... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #189 |
279. Is there any way you can volunteer to help a progressive non-profit, like |
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DollyM (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #279 |
301. I need specific experience . . . |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #189 |
297. Yes...it is the lack of current experience and loss of skills that keeps employers from hiring the |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
119. Booom. THIS is the correct answer here. |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
309. Fast food resturants already do this - they take advantage of a DoL entry level training program - |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
71. It's a good deal for the employers. For the unemployed, not so much. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #71 |
82. A win for employers. Sure. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #71 |
141. Employers who had people work for them without paying wages or benefits were called slaveowners. |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
83. If you believe all that, there's a bunch of bridges for sale... |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 03:38 PM Original message |
How about a jobs program that doesn't exploit workers? nt |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
98. I guess you didn't notice that 15% hire rate? Not to mention other MAJOR |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #98 |
116. It's much worse than serf labor |
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ladyVet (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:05 AM Response to Reply #98 |
206. My good Goddess is right. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
140. Do you seriously think employers should be encouraged by the government to not pay workers any wages |
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DollyM (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 02:10 AM Response to Reply #43 |
188. being unemployed for seven months now, I would embrace this! |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #188 |
280. I posted something similar upthread, but you seem like an ideal |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 04:14 AM Response to Reply #43 |
191. They fucking well would if they had to pay child care out of their unemployment checks n/t |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 05:08 AM Response to Reply #43 |
198. Amazing the things that are now being promoted here |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
277. It's not retraining; it's exploitation. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
287. Well what i think is we need --a real FDR style Presidential candidate to stand up and to say |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
4. Brilliant! Privatizing unemployment insurance |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
88. Guess he decided not to go big and bold, huh? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:19 AM Response to Reply #88 |
171. Nah, just slimey and crooked |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:49 AM Response to Reply #171 |
178. And people here attacked Michael Hudson.. |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. Unfuckingbelievable. |
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TK421 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
110. no..quite believable I'm afraid n/t |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
6. They are going to tell Companies that they can fire their workers and replace them for free |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
281. Keynes actually argued that, in times of economic stagnation and |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. HOPE!!! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. OMG! This is an incentive for employers to fire everyone and hire them back on the government's dime |
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gordianot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Now that would be Socialism Wall Sreet could live with. |
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Jkid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
9. I would not mind if the companies are required to hire the people after a certain period. |
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DotGone (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Requirement to hire after a certain period would not work |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
11. OMG. This administration is out of control. |
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durablend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Absolutely nothing! |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Yep! |
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walerosco (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
245. +100 |
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walerosco (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:27 AM Original message |
+100 |
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walerosco (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
247. +100 |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
47. Bush and the Republicans could never have gotten away with this |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
133. That is what they don't want us to see, a Republican inside our party is worse |
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walerosco (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #133 |
248. Oh yea |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
66. They're shooting themselves in the foot. And economist, Rick Wolff says |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 06:47 AM Response to Reply #66 |
200. Wrong metaphor. They are more like leeches sucking blood out of a foot. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
298. I think I know what's wrong with them. What I want to know |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
13. recommend |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
14. Good fucking god. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. But...but...but...he believes in PROGRESS!!! |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
306. Forget about never loving him, I can't stand him! |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. But you notice that those making the claims that we are all |
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durablend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
62. They'll find some excuse |
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walerosco (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
260. yea |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
44. It's Hooveresque. And it will get worse... |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
17. ... |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. vile personal attack and patently false accusation |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. LOL |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. i'm glad you're easily amused |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Agreed.. |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Prone to exaggeration much? |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:20 AM Response to Reply #31 |
203. So, BobbieJo, how's it going for you and President McDreamyAbs (to quote your link) |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #203 |
234. Really? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. ... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
77. Yeah I agree that was a garbage thread. |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:11 PM Response to Reply #77 |
153. I just finished reading that thread, |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
18. Someone tell me one plan the President has had that helped workers, with no "in the future we'll fix |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
38. Easy: the economic stimulus package. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
73. No, something that helped Main Street, not just Wall Street n/t |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
114. The Stimulus plan of 2009 is responsible for keeping things from |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #114 |
215. "Things" have gotten worse. We needed a bold plan to pull us out of the recession/depression. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #215 |
278. This will probably sound like pure sophistry to you, but it's the |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
19. This is a GOP dumb plan that is just another give away of |
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sad sally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
21. Another well thought out program? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
22. I was expecting a link to the Onion |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Might as well be. |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Are we not saying this too much lately? |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
24. He talks and I hear * . |
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DearHeart (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
26. Unfathomable!!! |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. How to turn the labor force into slaves. |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
122. even slaves were housed, fed and clothed |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
28. Why did we elect this guy again? |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Dope and Mange. |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
91. lol! n/t |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
113. LOL |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #113 |
128. Maybe I should make it into a bumper sticker. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #128 |
167. Bet teabagger types would eat that shit up. |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
127. ..... |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
30. another horrific idea |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
32. Somewhere in Texas, an ex-president smiles... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
33. The unemployed would certainly be much better off updating their resume, checking monster.com... |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. So you don't think there's any chance that companies would fire paid employees? |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
60. What are the chances that the unemployed would actually |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
89. Apparently no Obama proposal - no matter how odious - is beyond your defense |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #89 |
134. Groupthink + Doublespeak = Brainwashed tool of the rich willing to support anything |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #89 |
136. That wasn't an earthquake in Va the other day. |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 01:43 AM Response to Reply #33 |
184. Actually, for most it will take valuable time away from the job hunt |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #184 |
241. After I got laid off in Georgia |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
37. Cheap Labor Conservatism |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
39. You can fire employees and then rehire for free |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Fucking genius, isn't it. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Speak for yourself... |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. . |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Know your place. |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Ha! Beautiful. Thanks for the temporary uplift. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. I do speak for myself, tyvm. |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
90. All you have to do is look where the president has brought this country |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #56 |
174. Win what, exactly? |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 01:43 AM Response to Reply #56 |
186. why fight em' when it seems our leaders just join them? |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
123. We're so fucked. How sad but true. n/t |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:21 AM Response to Reply #39 |
173. Especially those who had been making a decent wage. nt |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
40. In the words of Popeye The Sailor |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. The "Current Occupant" ... must resign!!11!!!1 |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
138. At the very least a little honesty is in order, he should formally change his party affiliation |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #138 |
166. So confusing... |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. What you describe is the product of the "football team" mentality in politics, by his policy alone |
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ladyVet (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:30 AM Response to Reply #138 |
211. I said something similar in another thread. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
149. Not after all that work the neocons did to get him in there. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
41. Cutting the trickle to a drip and calling it "change". |
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Broderick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
49. I just put on my fancy new rose colored blinders! |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
52. Delete |
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ProgressIn2008 (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
54. If this is true, I propose that Obama work for free. nt |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
72. I propose that he JUST WORKS! |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
55. C'mon, defenders - Defend this! I dare ya! I'd LOVE to hear what you come up with! |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 01:17 AM Response to Reply #55 |
180. Why should they waste their time with you defending it when you have made |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #55 |
242. OK |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #242 |
299. If the free job only lasted 24 hours $10/hr would be correct. What if it is more than a week? |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #242 |
308. Clearly, you missed the part where the $240 is a ONE TIME stipend. |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
58. Companies would NEVER abuse such a system, would they? |
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radhika (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
67. Ongoing Myth: The Unemployed are 'Untrained' |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. +1 |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Agreed. n/t |
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Claudia Jones (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. well done |
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Johnny Noshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
85. I've only been out of work for a week. |
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radhika (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #85 |
95. I'm sorry - it must be scary and a shock... |
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Johnny Noshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #95 |
102. There are three companies |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #95 |
146. Someone who's been in the workforce for 30 years can remember |
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Johnny Noshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #146 |
243. When I walked into that first office... |
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lunasun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-04-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #146 |
314. and do not forget the employer gets paid something by gov. for ripping us off too |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #67 |
100. Clearly that is the plan. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
118. I hope you will consider making this an OP. We are seeing the |
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radhika (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #118 |
125. Do you mean 'Original Post'? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #125 |
130. Yes, I mean start a thread (an 'Original Post' or 'OP') with your |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #125 |
142. YES! Start a new thread on this board with your excellent post! |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #67 |
129. Excellent post. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
131. Exactly. It flies side by side with the sad fact that the UNSKILLED |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:39 AM Response to Reply #67 |
214. Yeah, people with PhDs |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #67 |
216. +1000000 |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #67 |
232. IT IS NOT A MYTH |
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radhika (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #232 |
263. I am familiar with those numbers.... |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #263 |
264. I unfortunatley have to agree |
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Shandris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
74. $240 is pretty good. IF IT WERE WEEKLY! |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Any employer who can't afford to pay trainees something isn't |
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Shandris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #74 |
117. Oh, I know. I don't support the measure in any way. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
79. Everyone chill the fuck out. He's got this motherfucker! |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 04:15 AM Response to Reply #79 |
192. ROFL! |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
80. Why build workhouses when you can just turn businesses into them? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #80 |
92. This is a most pragmatic and sensible proposal indeed! |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. Just what I thinking... |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
81. This better not be fuckin true... |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
84. If you expect me to work for free - fuck you! |
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Broderick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. DO IT |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
87. This plan is indefensible. |
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secondwind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
93. Am I the only person who thinks this is a good idea? |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Probably. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #93 |
107. probably not. to CEOs, this is a dream come true. |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 04:19 AM Response to Reply #107 |
193. "to CEOs, this is a dream come true." |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #93 |
137. Well, most of us are against slavery and indentured servitude so yeah your nearly alone |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #137 |
165. Obama = Slave driver |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #165 |
169. Well all I can say is come work for me for free and I will train you to do it well, what do you call |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #93 |
164. I'm withholding judgment... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #164 |
253. OK, that is fair. What would inspire a bad judgement from you? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:21 AM Response to Reply #93 |
172. Likely |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 04:20 AM Response to Reply #93 |
194. Yes. n/t |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #93 |
225. I don't think it is as bad an idea as some make it, but it definitely needs safeguards. |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
94. Sounds like an internship to me. nt |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
101. I know, I saw this BULLSHIT, okay , I will vote for the guy |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #101 |
160. Deleted message |
XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #160 |
235. WTF are you taking about? |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
103. sounds like indentured servitude to me. nt |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
105. this is absolutely atrocious! yay for modern serfdom. omfg. |
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Broderick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. Throw in that the Government wants to get into |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
106. sounds great in theory |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
108. Internships, the new slavery |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
111. Jesus wept. |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #111 |
139. They wouldn't hire him, either, no matter how much |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:22 AM Response to Reply #111 |
204. Wept? More like sobbing hysterically and banging his head against the wall. |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
112. Given a progressive, this wouldn't suck |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. exactly! |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #112 |
120. OT a bit, but if you have a M.S. in math, you should be able to |
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Creideiki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #120 |
152. I taught high school for a year and a half |
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BOHICA12 (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #112 |
157. Operate a program were employer can get up to 90% |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #157 |
282. I considered alerting the Mods to your use of Reagan-era innuendo, i.e., 'My |
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BOHICA12 (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:04 PM Response to Reply #282 |
311. Volunteer at your local Career One Stop ... |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #157 |
289. 55% is a very good success rate for - or would have been called that |
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BOHICA12 (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:01 PM Response to Reply #289 |
310. Been in the business long enough to know the games |
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lunasun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-04-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #157 |
315. Yes! it was the employees fault we didnt hire them after using themfree*that will be the excuse !!!! |
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BOHICA12 (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-04-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #315 |
316. Please read the entire group .... |
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Hotler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
121. Really Mr. President? Really? n/t |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
124. WTF is he doing? This is pretty fuckin sad, from a Dem president. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
126. Who is going to pick the job you have to do? And.. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
132. I think this is essentially a good idea. How much did you get paid to go to school? |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 01:35 AM Response to Reply #132 |
183. I was paid to be an apprentice. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #183 |
228. "I won't go back to school for certification in my field because it would require an 'internship''" |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #228 |
240. Not in my field. |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
135. He's not helping fight the right wing whine "That's socialist" if he really wanted to pull an FDR |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
144. Finally something positive comes to those looooooooong-term |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
145. Pathetic. |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
147. Free labor...like that program wouldn't be abused much |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
148. I know the republicans want to bring back slavery |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
154. How does the pay compare to minimum wage? |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #154 |
158. No pay, just a one time "signing bonus" /nt |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
155. They do this in Germany, too. n/t |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #155 |
226. Good point . . . . . . . that will be ignored here. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #155 |
276. Right, and German corporate culture is *exactly* like US corporate culture.. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #276 |
305. Well, another big diff is that German 1 euro workers have full health insurance |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #155 |
312. Are you sure. The government paid the employers to continue |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
156. Say what you want about Obama, at least the bailouts for the rich are on time -nt |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
159. So, You Get to Keep Getting Unemployment Insurance AND another $10/hour Learning a Trade? |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #159 |
170. It's a one-time payment. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:31 AM Response to Reply #159 |
175. Gives employers and incentive to lay off more workers-especially those with |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 09:05 AM Response to Reply #175 |
221. Ah, should have seen that. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #159 |
250. The $240 is not each week. That would be much better. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
161. That sounds like the old CETA program that encouraged employers |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:21 AM Response to Reply #161 |
210. i was in the JTPA program |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
162. I can think of only one way that this could not be a disaster |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #162 |
238. That's a great point. |
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MsPithy (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
163. And, the Sheriff of Nottingham will cut off the hand |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 01:43 AM Response to Reply #163 |
185. +1 n/t |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
179. What is REALLY strange is that the British government, within the last week or so |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 01:24 AM Response to Reply #179 |
181. The idea might work though. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 01:29 AM Response to Reply #179 |
182. No, it is not a coincidence. They, the Masters of the Universe |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 04:43 AM Response to Reply #182 |
195. +1 |
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ladyVet (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #195 |
219. I know, right? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #195 |
265. Oops, sorry! |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #265 |
288. Lol! |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #182 |
317. +11111 ...probably why he doesn't listen to Stiglitz, Baker, Krugman, Reich and others |
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DollyM (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
187. I would do this in a heartbeat! |
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Sirveri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 04:48 AM Response to Reply #187 |
196. Just lie and say you're currently employed. |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 04:50 AM Response to Reply #187 |
197. Well if it works for you then fine... |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:08 AM Response to Reply #187 |
202. $240 is 1 time payment over unemployment period - wouldn't pay your gas costs to get to work! |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #187 |
218. This is not $240 a week. |
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DollyM (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #218 |
266. well, I can see it not being 240 a week, that's more than my UI |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #266 |
269. I hear ya. |
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droidamus2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 03:44 AM Response to Original message |
190. How about this |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 05:21 AM Response to Original message |
199. Robert who? |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
201. AFL/CIO: This program violates minimum wage law! |
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durablend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #201 |
224. No problem... |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #224 |
290. I'm expecting that next. n/t |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
207. another example of clueless in the whitehouse |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
208. Geez, if Hoover had thunk of this he'd have won in 1936! |
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mother earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
209. Soon everyone will be on unemployment with this new corporate |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
217. Work for free. That's where we're headed. |
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krhines (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
220. Banks got bailed out we get sold out! |
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border_town (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
222. I am not going |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #222 |
246. 15% success |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:10 PM Original message |
Isn't that sad? |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #246 |
254. DP. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #222 |
284. You are joking right? Only 19 people are currently participating in Georgia, so any |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
227. Maybe Obama won't include this in his speech if White House staffers read the reaction on DU! |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
229. Sounds more like training for free. For those who it will help, it sounds okay to me. There are |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #229 |
236. Yes, jobs programs need multiple parts |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #229 |
244. No. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-04-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #244 |
313. These are not normal times. These are not college students. These are desperate unemployed |
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bluedigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
230. How are migrant workers supposed to compete with that? |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
231. Another benefit that is treated like a handout. SS, which |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
233. There is a reason the repubs have put up a bunch of clowns for 2012. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
237. So, they work 24 hours, get $240 ($10/hr) AND get their UI benefits - and this is "work for free" |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #237 |
252. They don't get $10 an hour on top of unemployment benefits. They get a one time stipend of $240. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #252 |
257. Yeah - it would really suck to have this on your resume - employers would see it as a negative |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
249. Deleted message |
IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
255. Didn't Abe Lincoln address the "work for free" thingy ~150 years ago? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #255 |
283. Um, my ancestors on my father's side fought at Gettysburg in the Iron Brigade |
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Mosaic (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
256. If they want us to work for free, Here is a better solution |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
258. Community service requirements.... |
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DollyM (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #258 |
267. yes, finally a voice of reason on here! |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #267 |
268. sorry, no |
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DollyM (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #268 |
270. I am asking for experience! |
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BenzoDia (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #270 |
273. I agree with your point of view. I feel a program like this would've been great for me after I |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #270 |
286. Did you try calling the two nursing homes and social service program |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #267 |
271. Exactly |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #258 |
291. The employer should pay minimum wage, at the least. |
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NCarolinawoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
259. "Obama is fearful of Republicans........" is the phrase that stands out for me. |
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mfcorey1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
261. Beware of these lies over and over and over! |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
262. "There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that President Obama is planning to include" |
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BenzoDia (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
272. Does Georgia Works require the unemployed to participate? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #272 |
292. Georgia politicians can't force unemployed people to work for nothing. At least not yet. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #292 |
303. Old Times there are not forgotten |
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BenzoDia (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #292 |
304. Ah okay. If people can keep collecting unemploymemt w/o being forced into free labor, then |
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JNinWB (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
274. Currently, companies will not hire. |
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JNinWB (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
275. Duplicate |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
293. Free Labor - where have I heard that before? |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
294. So what happens if you don't get hired full time the first time? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
296. Well, bringing back indentured servitude is certainly transformational. |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #296 |
300. But it is "transformational" just like Reagan the great! |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #300 |
307. We will transform labor back into servitude! n/t |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #296 |
302. I know people don't like to hear comparisons between the US and Weimar Germany - BUT- |
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