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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:07 PM
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12 McDonald's Menu Items That Failed Spectacularly
New product development always has a level of risk attached to it, and for fast food companies like McDonald's (NYSE: MCD - News), the pace of the business requires the constant creation of new menu items.

McDonald's has hundreds of different products that are offered in locations worldwide, but for every tremendously successful one like the iconic Big Mac, there's a spectacular failure.

Why? Ineffective marketing, bad product launches and consumer reluctance for change are common. But when you're dealing with food, there's always the simplest of reasons: people just don't like the taste.

We've compiled 12 of the biggest failures McDonald's has ever had. Some fizzled into obscurity, while others vanished completely.

http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/113424/mcdonalds-menu-items-that-failed-bizinsider

McLobster
McGratin Croquette
Hula Burger
Pizza & McPizza
McSpaghetti
McAfrika
Arch Deluxe
McHotDog
McDLT
McLean Deluxe
Big N' Tasty
Super-size

0.0" that just mcSucks..(lol!)
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:09 PM
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1. I liked the McDLT a lot. Back then it was more like food. n/t
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:29 PM
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3. +1 n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:53 PM
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8. Loved em!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:57 PM
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11. I just found a ridiculous 80's McDLT commercial with Jason Alexander.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:29 AM
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34. Did anyone else half expect...
...him to start singing about Dr. Pepper?

"I've seen that commercial before.... for a completely different product!"
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:56 PM
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50. Dude...
That's the most 80's thing I've ever seen in my life.
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BoWanZi Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:06 AM
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20. Me too!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:09 AM
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21. Yep, that was good stuff.....
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 09:47 PM
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48. You can still sorta get it if you order a chicken sandwich without the chicken.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 11:33 AM
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56. So did I. n/t
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vercetti2021 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:10 PM
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2. Wow
Pizza & McPizza
McSpaghetti
McLobster

Those sound disgusting.

Big N tasty was good and super size every now and then.

They had hot dogs? Damn i learn something new each day.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:38 PM
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Don't forger the McCain
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:38 PM
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4. Don't forget the McCain
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 10:39 PM by OffWithTheirHeads
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Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:39 PM
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5. What surprises me is that someone who gets paid an unchristly amount of...
...money thought most of those were a good idea. I could have saved them a LOT of time with -most- of those.

McLobster? Please. That's like going to Don Pablo's for a cheeseburger. You don't cross specialties. Tertiary things (like shakes and the McCafe stuff) is okay. Diametrically opposed products are not.

McGratin? Do I really need to say anything? :P

Hula Burger is a niche. People SAY they like it more than they REALLY like it. Ask -anyone- who has ever worked at a pizza joint. Tons of people 'like' Hawaiian pizza...and you still make an average of 1/day.

McSpaghetti. Should have been marketed to kids only, otherwise you hit the 'cross genre' again. Chef Boyardee is cheaper and just as fast.

McAfrika. Yeah.

Arch Deluxe. HORSERADISH?!? Seriously? See the Hula Burger and change 'Hawaiian pizza' to 'things with horseradish'.

MrHotDog. Okay, this one I would have approved. When I used to go to McDonalds, I often wished they had a good hot dog.

McDLT. Great idea...too much effort. Also, backlash against styrofoam. Better packaging might have saved it.

McLean Deluxe. You DO realize this is McDonald's, right? Be happy you can sell a 'diet' coke.

Big 'N Tasty. Putting salt and pepper on the patty isn't a separate menu item!

Sorry so long, but this one piqued my interest. And darnit...now I'm hungry. :(
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:40 PM
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6. Why I love the Internet, Part 248. Check out this commercial for the McDLT
from the 1980s starring Jason Alexander of "Seinfeld" fame! :rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTSdUOC8Kac
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:52 PM
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7. The McDLT sneaks its way onto the menu under various guises.
Right now it's the Big n' Tasty
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:22 AM
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31. Yeah, but even they ditched the Big N Tasty in most markets now.
The McDLT could work, but I think the packaging doomed the original incarnation. The article stated that people were becoming more environmentally conscious, and the packaging for the McDLT used a lot of styrofoam. If they used paper or cardboard paper like they do with Big Mac containers, they might be able to bring it back. I saw the hilarious commercial; it's funny and out of time, but the burger does still look good.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 05:17 AM
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36. The reasoning for the McDLT packaging is really non-applicable now anyway.
The McDLT was designed to keep Burger King's whopper from taking market share (hence the tomatoes and lettuce), but one of the other big selling points of Burger King was that you could "have it your way." At the time McDonalds kept up a speed advantage by having several of each burger already made and under a heatlamp when you made your order. This was terrific for speed, as your cheesebuger could be grabbed off the shelf and put in your bag instantly, but it also meant that you couldn't specify the details of the burger. For example, there was no such thing as a quarter pounder without onions. The reason the whopper could offer lettuce and tomato on their burger is that they weren't sitting there under heat lamps, instead they were assembled according to order. The McDLT packaging allowed McDonalds to put a pre-made burger on the shelf and "keep the hot hot and the cool cool". But somewhere in the 90s the public got kind of grossed out by eating burgers that were pre-made and now McDonalds operates on a made to order basis too. This means they don't need to insulate the hot and cold separately, they can just put them together and pass them to you. It also means you can order your burger your way at McDonalds too.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:45 PM
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49. The Big N Tasty is now the Angus Burger
Almost the same ingredients, but 'upscale' quality.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:54 PM
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9. I wouldn't know
The last time I ate at a McDonald's was 1975. Please let me know if they come up with something edible.
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Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:59 PM
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13. If you are willing to accept that you will be ingesting large amounts of sugar...
...the only product of theirs I will buy is the Vanilla McCafe. It's surprisingly tasty, far more so than any other 'fast service' milkshake I've ever had. It's a relatively reasonable price, well sized, and rather thin (which, for me, is the selling point. I HATE thick shakes, ugh!).

It's not going to beat a $5 fountain shake of course, but you get what you pay for. For less than $3 here in Indiana, you can do much worse. I know I wouldn't have made it through those first few days after having my teeth extracted without them.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:17 AM
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27. Their breakfast burritos are awesome!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:55 PM
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10. The only one of those that I think I remember is the McLobster
I feel like I saw that somewhere, though some Lobster Rolls are terrible enough to be McLobsters.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:59 PM
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12. The Arch Deluxe was awful
They put some kind of strange sauce on it. McLobster sounds like that might have been pretty tasty LOL.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:00 PM
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14. McLobster?
Really?
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:32 PM
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16. Honey - for our anniversary I'm going to take you out or a lobster dinner
Surprise.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:42 PM
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18. They had the temerity to debut that in Maine.
Really.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:54 PM
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19. Shut the front door.
They did not.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:04 PM
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15. I remember the McPizza fondly
It was essentially a Hot Pocket (before Hot Pockets), and it tasted like high school pizza, but when you're in high school like I was, it was pretty good.

TlalocW
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:35 PM
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17. Everything on their menu SHOULD be a fail
Complete, total, utter crap. Nutritional failure aside, most of their food just tastes awful.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:30 AM
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23. Your opinion
I think their burgers taste better than home-made burgers, and their McNuggets are amazing. :)
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:19 AM
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28. Depends, imo, they can't beat a fire grilled burger. But I agree.
For a quick snack (if you have a 5000 calorie a day work load) they're great.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 12:38 AM
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38. My opinion yes, but I can think of plenty of better tasting fast food options
I rarely do fast-food burgers, but when I do, IMHO there are much better tasting options.

In my area, I'd have to say that Checkers is usually the best tasting fast-food burger joint.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 09:46 PM
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47. I'd have to agree about Checkers, definitely. But for me, a couple of double cheese burgers for $1.
...can't be beat when I'm hungry and on the go. :P

Yes, they're unhealthy, but I need a lot of calories during long days.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:36 AM
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52. their FRIES
still awesome after all these decades :D
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:09 AM
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22. They had roast beef for awhile...
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:42 AM
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24. Anyone could see that McAfrika would fail ...
... but they never tried a McJeffrey kids meal, complete with furry wall?
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:15 AM
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25. I wish I could get a McRib right now.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:16 AM
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26. Big N' Tasty was freaking awesome, precursor to the dollar menu, imo.
I loved the Big N' Tasty! Totally crapped on the Big Mac because its secret sauce was ... mayo.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:37 AM
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32. I loved the Big N' Tasty too.
Not quite big enough but much more tasty than anything else on the menu.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:53 AM
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55. thousand island dressing
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:09 AM
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29. No McTongue and McTripe, eh?
Probably wouldn't go over so well with mainstream American tastes.
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clu Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:11 AM
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30. as much as i hate to say it
they nailed it with the premium chicken sandwiches. it's a little more than whataburger's grilled chicken fillet, but they use better cuts of chicken breast
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:52 AM
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33. I find BK's is better chicken, but yes, they got better with the McD version. I liked the McPizza,
but I cannot believe they actually had a McLobster sandwich for $6, and debuted it in Maine! That surely made them laugh!
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TheManInTheMac Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 05:11 AM
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35. McAfrika?
"The McAfrika was one of the biggest marketing catastrophes McDonald's ever caused for itself. It contained beef, cheese, tomatoes and salad in a pita-like sandwich.

It was released in 2002 during a slew of famines in southern Africa. McDonald's apologized and pulled the item, once the PR crisis heated up.

McDonald's did it again with the McAfrica in a 2008 promotion for the Olympics. Unsurprisingly, it received a similar negative outcry."



Well some people just can't take a joke.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 05:51 AM
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37. We can still order the Big N' Tasty here. It's not on the menu,
but you can still order one. At least you could a month ago, last time I went.
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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 12:56 AM
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39. I loved at least 3 of those
I can't believe how many people dislike the Arch deluxe. When that was out, when our family went to McDonalds, everyone ordered THAT. LOL. 4 Arch Deluxes, once a week. Can't say we didn't try to keep them going. We all bitched and complained when it vanished. We all liked the McDLT too! Their pizza wasn't that bad. I liked it quite a bit. For awhile, that's all my brother would eat when we went there. I don't remember any of the other ones - Oh, I remember the McLean Deluxe but never tried it. My mom, who will try anything prefaced with lean, light or diet said it was too dry so I never bothered.

Some of those things I can tell just from the names they were going to tank - McLobster? wtf? They've come out with some good ones recently though. One of the newer one tastes just like the McDLT used to, but I can't remember what it's called. I admit, I love McDonalds. Although, now it's a rare treat as I'm too broke for even McDonalds. The good stuff is really pricey now.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:37 PM
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40. I never tried any of them..
I love lobster but.. a MCLobster scares me.
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:54 PM
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41. Why isn't that hideous McRib barf on the list? nt
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Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 09:04 PM
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42. ...because it's one of their highest-selling sandwiches?
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 09:18 PM
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43. Ugh!
It's funky. I'm not sure that it should even be called meat.


:puke:
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Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:11 AM
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51. Hahaha. Totally agree with ya there!
Once upon a time, I thought they were 'good'. Compared to what my dad's fridge consisted of when I was growing up (he was a truck driver, out all week, once the entirety of the fridge's contents were -- no kidding -- a half jar of mayo and a bottle of ketchup (!)), it was. But now that I'm an adult, you'd be hard-pressed to PAY me to eat that. Or anything from there, other than the aforementioned McCafe when I had my teeth pulled.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 09:33 PM
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44. McDonald's in Egypt delivered.
Right to your door. You just called, placed the order and it arrived...well, eventually. Usually pretty quick, though.

The delivery vehicles were motor-scooters with a closed box on the back. So if you were finicky, you had to think about your food sitting in dense traffic, absorbing tons of hydrocarbons during the trip.

I lived in Alexandria, and an absolute highlight of my life was when Burger King finally opened there, in 2007. I always preferred Whoppers to McDonalds, and the Egyptian version tasted exactly like the American original.

Another good Egyptian junk-food place was Hardee's, which sold good hot dogs. Though not as good as the Foot-Long Dog/Fries at the Mouslim Sandwich Shop, a small joint right down the street from my apartment. All the employees looked like Osama bin Laden, but those guys made a great dog.

Travel Tip: don't EVER go to a KFC in the Middle East. I made that mistake in Saudi Arabia, an experience that convinced me Col. Sanders should have been executed by firing squad.

Look for a "Tikkah Chicken" place instead, which are all over the place. You get more, better and cheaper food than The Colonel.

I had it even better in Alexandria. I could walk out my door and see about a dozen "street chicken" stands. A whole roast chicken, fresh hot flat-bread, and a serving of great spicy vegetables for about 3 bucks American. And no, I never got sick.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 09:34 PM
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45. supersize didn't fail. It was actually very popular. That movie ended it though.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 09:39 PM
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46. I never cared much for the McLiver or Rocky Mountain Oyster McNuggets. nt
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 04:19 AM
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53. McLobster is a lobster roll, not something strange and unusual
It's something you can only sell in New England because the rest of the world has no fucking idea what a lobster roll is.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:32 AM
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54. The McDLT & the Arch Deluxe were pretty good.
Alas.:P
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