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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 12:16 PM Original message |
Juan Cole: NATO Refuses Ground Troops for Libya as “Friends” Conference Opens |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. The upshot -- the left... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. If the choice is between global capital and the state, of course. n/t |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Qadaffi was pumping oil like Billy-be-damned... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. You mean besides its bottomless greed? |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. That's not *their* complaint -- that's ours. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Indeed, Iraq was only the (next to) last chapter in a long string |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. Libya buys 50,000 T Russian wheat |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. Never doubted it. The U.N., NATO and Pres. Obama did the right thing. Thanks for the facts. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. AP has an article out today. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. Well, shit... why'd we even bomb them if we're not gonna take their oil? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. There's no water in Tripoli but these people are getting together |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Perhaps some of that frozen money... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. People who live there have no choice in the matter at this point. n/t |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Unfreezing assets is critical to funding resolution of humanitarian issues |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. 1.5 billion released by UN, reported 8/25: |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. $1.5 Bn. would fund government spending for less than 12 days |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Might want to get on the phone with State then |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. The U.S. has released $1.5 Bn. so far |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. So you are happy about how the UN is handling this, then? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. My respect for the UN is at an all time low for the shameful way |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. But releasing the money is clearly the right thing to do, isn't it? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I hope so. |
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sad sally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. Typical war operations. Bomb the crap out of the infrastructure, let citizens suffer for a period |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. NATO bombing had nothing to do with the water shortage |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. You mean, NATO had nothing to do with it except for the fanning |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. NATO didn't get resolve Misrata for 4 months. So that's just blatently false. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
13. I guess those British, French and Qatari commandos don't count. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. This episode taught me one thing, I'll never trust Juan Cole again |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. More on Juan Cole... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Thanks, I tried to read that last night but it was swamped. n/t |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. What an absolutely dispicible article. Just beyond the pale. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:40 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Ha, so surprised you'd say that.... |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. lol! nope, no surprises here. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. That is Counter-Punch, Sir: Wreckers And Splinterists Of the Worst water |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. since when? based on what, uh, evidence/clues? very curious, hope you will indulge. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Years Of Exposure To The Rag, Ma'am |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. in other words, that is just your completely subjective and biased opinion. got it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. The transcript is from Amy's show. n/t |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. The transcript doesn't represent Walsh's lies. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. To be sure, the CIA is likely attending *Chomsky's* talks, too. |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Like a neocon, never saw a war he didn't like. |
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Waiting For Everyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
34. O. M. G. Are you effing kidding me? |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Keep on drinking the koolaid. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. absurd demonization of gaddafi is beyond pathetic. fail. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. Gaddafi, the CIA rendition asset? |
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War Horse (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
27. But this HAS to be about imperialism |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
30. I'm so reassured. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
36. juan cole has zero credibility. negative credibility, in fact. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Since When, Ma'am? |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. credibility with the anti-war left, i should've quaified. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. So, In Other Words, Ma'am, He Remains a Very Credible And Knowledgeable Commentator |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. For me, since he forwarded a shallow and dishonest argument |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:03 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. heh, 'snipe hunt'... |
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