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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:36 AM
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1st Grader Handcuffed For Misbehaving In Class - What next, tasers, waterboarding?
First Grader handcuffed for misbehaving in class
by Myrddin on 9/01/2011 09:20:00 AM

The parents are suing, the board of education won't respond. Chicago Tribune reports:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/31/first-graders-handcuffed-_n_943646.html
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-08-29/news/chi-lawsuit-accused-cps-guard-of-handcuffing-firstgrader-20110829_1_handcuffing-cps-spokeswoman-becky-carroll-security-guard

The mother of a Chicago Public Schools elementary school student is accusing an on-campus security guard of handcuffing her son and detaining him for more than an hour while he was a first-grader last year at Carver Primary School on the city’s far South Side.

In a lawsuit filed Monday in Cook County Circuit Court, LaShanda Smith alleges that security guard David Allen “acted in conscious disregard” of her son’s safety when he handcuffed him in March 2010 following an unexplained incident on campus. She is seeking more than $100,000 in damages.

It gets worse
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/lawsuit-first-graders-handcuffed-discipline-talking-class-20110831

Attorney Michael Carin said the students were taken to an office where they were handcuffed and told they were going to prison and would never see their parents again.

via:
http://www.americablog.com/2011/09/first-grader-handcuffed-for-misbehaving.html
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:38 AM
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1. waterboarding?
:eyes:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:41 AM
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2. This kid is doomed. No discipline and a parent who won't address the problem.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:46 AM
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3. But handcuffs? I find that very troubling. This is a 1st grader we're talking about.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:55 AM
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9. It's obviously not good, but what is the kid learning from this?
Not to listen and behave properly I imagine. I am not hopeful on the outcome.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:24 AM
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14. When I was in first grade, I didn't listen and behaved poorly. I remember the teacher used to ...
call me a "space cadet"

I used to go home crying every day. It really upset me a lot and it didn't change my behavior.

I can only imagine the trauma of being handcuffed at that age.

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:28 AM
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15. What did your mom tell you to do about this?
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:51 AM
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16. They called the school and told them to make the teacher stop calling me names.
And that did the trick.

I respond better to respect as do most, if not all people I think.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 01:22 PM
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25. Your mom never told you to pay attention and behave in school?
I find that hard to believe.

Were you acting out because the teacher called you a name perhaps?
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 01:48 PM
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27. My mom wasn't exactly the disciplinarian in the household. That would be daddy-o.
And yes he did more than his share of discipline and telling me how to behave in school. None of it involved handcuffs or name calling.

I was just being a 1st grader I think. Actually, I'm pretty sure it was kindergarden but who can remember.
The class had a guinea pig which me and another kid snuck in after school and kidnapped and tried to take it home. When mom showed up to pick me up I showed her my new pet and she told me to put it back. It was the first of many animals she would tell me to put back.

What's hard to believe this space cadet turned out to be an honor roll student my senior year at high school at the very same school.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:54 AM
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17. Have you ever had to try and control a out-of-control child?
You know, the one that is having a major meltdown, who throws things, hits, bites, scratches, etc?


Have you?



Sometimes, handcuffs just may be the best solution available at the time to protect everyone.
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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:48 AM
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5. I hope you are kidding...otherwise I fear you are doomed
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 08:49 AM by terip64
in believing that this is in anyway an appropriate punishment for a 7 year old.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:51 AM
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7. uh ok... but don't you see the use of HANDCUFFS going just a smidge, uh, overboard?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:04 AM
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11. Yes it was. But I still think this kid is not being served well by his parent.
No winners here.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:05 AM
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12. parents not parenting is a growing problem, but slapping cuffs on a first grader isnt going to help
IMO
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:11 AM
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13. It's an overreaction to the first problem which is lack of respect for teachers and discipline.
I feel sorry for the kid. The adults around him are not optimal.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:53 AM
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8. did you forget the sarcasm thingie?
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:47 AM
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4. They should win the suit and have the money put in a trust for the child
so it can be used for his psychiatric bills and inevitable future legal expenses.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:49 AM
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6. get that little bastard!
:sarcasm:
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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:57 AM
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10. Kick and recommend. WTH is wrong with people! n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:55 AM
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18. I am not surprised
that this is happening in the country. This kind of behavior, no, not the kid, the security guard... is classic of closing societies,
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:57 AM
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19. Move over Time Out Chair get your new Time Out Cuffs
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 11:57 AM by Stevenmarc
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:00 PM
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20. The problem here isn't a 1st grader being handcuffed...
the problem is what kind of elementary school even needs a security guard for in the first place.
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 03:58 PM
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29. In Chicago every public school has at least one security guard
They added two more to every school after the Columbine shooting.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:04 PM
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21. We're trending toward a police state anyway
Might as well inculcate our citizens at the youngest possible age to get used to heavy-handed police tactics. What the boy was doing isn't described, though one of the headlines on the linked stories says it was for talking in class. That will be a capital offense eventually, I think. And I predict there will be "progressives" applauding that development right alongside the worst authoritarians.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:06 PM
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22. You can never teach them early enough
that any deviation from the norm will not be tolerated. They should have tasered the kid, obviously. Probably gonna grow up to be a terrorist or dissident anyway.

:sarcasm:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:53 PM
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23. Whatever happened to the time-out chair?
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 02:19 PM
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28. There are some 1st graders today who will look you in the eye and tell you to, "Fuck off!" ...
if you tell them to go to time-out. Then what?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 07:36 PM
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30. You take them to an empty room and close the door.
Leave the kid in there until they choose to behave. That's what they did when I was a kid in the 1990s.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 07:52 PM
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35. And of course, they will walk politely into said room. We are directed not to touch any child ...
unless they pose an immediate physical threat to either ourselves, or another student; so getting the child into the empty room cpould prove problematic.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 07:38 PM
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32. then what?
then you say "no, you fuck off. and get in time out."
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:56 PM
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24. David Allen? Isn't that Skinner's name?
:hide:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 07:37 PM
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31. It is, LOL!!!
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tinkerbell41 Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 01:34 PM
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26. I worked at several CPS locations
For a couple years, as an outsider, not an educator. I actually worked at this school for a week or two. In no way do I think a first grader should be handcuffed EVER!! But... I will tell you the things I observed regarding students, parents and teachers was beyond any experience i ever had in school. There was a complete lack of respect ALL the way around that you were in a "special" setting, you know like "Church" a "Funeral" the "Doctor's" office etc.. The parents had NO respect for the Teacher's and/ or Principal some Teacher's I encountered were absorbed by their cell-phones, and the kid's oh my... I don't know the answer I don't know how to solve it, I DO KNOW there isn't enough money in the world that you could throw at it and fix it.
If I taught there I don't know how I would get through the day. It is that bad.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 07:41 PM
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33. Oh C'mon. They'll bring back "stress positions" in schools before tasering!
As for waterboarding, it will be "reserved for the worst of the worst." How many times must you liberals be told that?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 07:44 PM
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34. There are people here who apparently support the death penalty for 1st graders talking in class.
:eyes:

I mean, one meal at TGI Friday's gets fucked up by "noisy brats" and it's suddenly all-out war on the world's rugrats.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:34 PM
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36. Can't seem to find out what they did
Just talking in class? there must be a better way. Not a teacher, but just guessing that there's another way to handle that.
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