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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:05 AM
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Normal people don't give a shit about the fucking speech date
In the real world, every time the President does the most minor thing people don't feel compelled to either hump his leg or stick pins in a voodoo doll of him. That shit only happens in punditland. And frankly that's what turns a lot of people off from politics. They already have their quota for bullshit filled in other aspects of their lives, so they don't need to hear some jackass putting a spin on every trifling matter in Washington.

It's a goddamn fucking speech date. And one that a large segment of this country is blissfully unaware of. So quit trying to claim that we saw 47-dimension chess from the President on this, or that today's actions would have shamed Neville Chamberlain. Leave the rhetorical circle-jerk to the dickwads on MSNBC. If it ever reaches the point where the talking heads are the only ones that care about stupid shit like this, then maybe they'll either shut the fuck up or actually try to do their jobs for a change.

Democracy cannot function effectively when political discourse is obsessively fixated on the inconsequential.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:06 AM
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1. normal people use calendars and schedule checkers lol nt
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:09 AM
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2. I use Microsoft Outlook and I never make a scheduling mistake
I guess I'm doing better than Obama's staff.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:12 AM
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5. nice illustration of what my post was about
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 06:49 AM
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26. agree again!!
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:51 PM
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37. Ah, the arbiter of perfect scheduling weighs in.
Thanks for that.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:12 AM
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3. "obsessively fixated on the inconsequential"
Hm.

Major corporations running the "news" media...

=

"obsessively fixated on the inconsequential"

Yup.

So I guess the speech thing is going to be important, because it will be obsessively fixated on it.

Sucks.

But true.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:18 AM
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7. What sucks more is that DU feels compelled to follow the agenda of the news corporations
I didn't realize how important this supposedly was until I logged into DU this evening.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:24 AM
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28. DU is people, too
*shrug*
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:12 AM
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4. they do when it appears you've bowed to pressure to change it
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:15 AM
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6. "Normal" people suck.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:16 PM
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34. ...
http://youtu.be/0IzCyp-dwbs?t=1m35s

look at those assholes over there....ordinary fucking people...I hate them.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:19 AM
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8. How genteel.
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:30 AM
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9. If the public is blissfully unaware of this speech
why reschedule it on the most important night of the NFL football season? Doesn't that make things worse?
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:52 AM
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12. i loathe football
i am sure i am not alone
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 01:41 AM
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16. You are certainly not alone...nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 05:19 AM
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19. It interferes with my enjoyment of the TV game show "Jeopardy!"
...so I don't care for it, either.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 07:52 AM
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27. While you "loathe" it, many in America don't
Edited on Thu Sep-01-11 07:53 AM by Javaman
and trying to give a nationally televised speech against it's opening season game, it's the brightest thing to do.

regardless of what you believe, many people can enjoy football and understand politics.

Also, many a repuke nut job still tunes in to listening to the president speech regardless of Obama being a Democrat.

However, they are left with a choice, watch Obama, someone whom they have no like for, or watch the opening season kick off for the nations most popular sport. What do you think they will choose?

And, I know it's hard to believe, but reaching out to the few remaining reasonable repuke voters is important.

So the TV program listing for the repukes is now. Debates on the 7th, and kick off on the 8th.

I might also add to that mix, many a Dem will be conflicted as to which to watch. And I can guarantee you, many will be switching back and forth.

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JNinWB Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:57 AM
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33. Obama should never compete with a football game!
Football is WAY more important than trying to put Americans back to work. We all know that.

The Republican debate is also WAY more important.

We have our priorities!
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:37 AM
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10. I tought it was tonight.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:52 AM
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11. who was that guy in catch 22, a colonel
was always looking at situations as either a "feather in his cap" or a "black eye".

But you clearly do not understand that this is the moral equivalent of a genocide.

But this is just a discussion at the local internet bar. It's not gonna kill democracy.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 01:19 AM
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13. Agree. Just us abby normals @ DU! nt
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 05:35 AM
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20. yep!
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 01:26 AM
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14. The media are the puppeteers. n/t
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 01:40 AM
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15. I get annoyed at people who are just waiting to pounce on
any dumb little thing and make a Federal case out of it......they are addicted to "being outraged" like crack cocaine.
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 01:44 AM
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17. Those I've visited with about it don't care because as they say,
"another speech? He's done speeches, he's done commissions, and ultimately he's done nothing. Why should I care if he's going give another speech on jobs, he's proven it means nothing at all to him 5 minutes after the speech."
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 03:06 AM
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18. K&R
A lot of us are outright hung up on politics and even WE don't even give a shit about the fucking speech date.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 05:39 AM
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21. Why do I always get sucked into these bullshit controversies?
:shrug:
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 06:31 AM
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22. I use my wife as a sample of 'normal people'.
She is a loyal Democratic voter, she does not follow politics obsessively as I do, and she gets most of her news from the morning tv noise.

"why does he keep giving in?" - the wife, this morning.

I rest my case.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 06:38 AM
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23. Spin Spin Spin
:rofl:

RL
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 06:46 AM
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24. You deserve a lollipop! n/t
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 06:48 AM
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25. I agree with you 100%!!!!!
I would come on here to get informed, but now its all just bikering. Very stressful.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:26 AM
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29. You can tell who watches that garbage because they're the only ones who give a shit
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:28 AM
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30. Not only do they not give a crap about the date, they could care less about the speech itself.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:31 AM
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31. I don't give a shit aobut the fucking speech date.
I don't give a shit about the fucking speech, PERIOD.

I give a shit about what the nation does about our problems.

Speeches, and partial, weak, half-hearted measures calculated to soothe the masses and calibrated for campaign season don't register anywhere on my radar.

Unless you think O is going to announce a reversal of policy: actions to end NAFTA/CAFTA, to get our military out of the middle east, to unveil a national public health care system, to invest, today, in a Super-Mega jobs program that will put the nation back to work on our own infrastructure and on our own home soil, and to tax the obscenely wealthy to help pay for it all....

is that what you are expecting?

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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:31 AM
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32. How very judgmental of you
n/t
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 12:17 PM
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35. How many people actually know he is even going to give a speech?
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 05:28 PM
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36. goodbye
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:47 PM
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38. I'm rec'ing you because I couldn't rec rufus
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:07 PM
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39. The 24/7 news cycle has skewed perceptions of reality.
You'll have some clown on (insert name of channel here) going on ad nauseam about whatever real or manufactured controversy is getting knickers into knots that particular day. Now it's not that a PR disaster or misstep can't bring someone down. It's just that people are busy living their lives, and things move on, fast.

We've got to cut back on sticking the political thermometer up the national orifice every few seconds.
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