President Obama moving speech to Congress to Thurs, Sept 8. n/t

[dgibby]

per MSNBC

[OhioChick]

1. So, he caved. n/t

[Tx4obama]

2. Without The House voting 'yes' on the resolution to hold the joint session

then there's no way for Obama to give it in The House Chamber.

Obama is not a dictator and does not have a magic wand.

[bullwinkle428]

5. Perhaps he should have thought of that before announcing the time and date?

[KansDem]

8. Reports are surfacing that the White House conferred with Boehner before making announcement

White House privately briefed Boehner on speech timing ahead of public request

Multiple reporters—Sam Stein, Sam Youngman, and Glenn Thrush— report that Obama administration officials tell them that John Boehner was privately briefed about the timing of President Obama's jobs speech request and that he voiced no objections until rejecting the request this afternoon.

Boehner's office concedes that it was briefed ahead of time, but denies agreeing to the date. But even if they didn't explicitly agree to the schedule, unless they voiced an objection, they were quite clearly operating in bad faith.

But all that is really beside the point. For what is almost certainly the first time in the history of our nation, the Speaker of the House has rejected a request from the President to speak on a matter of great national urgency. Everything else about this story is noise.

--more--
DailyKos

Republican "politics" as usual? :shrug:

[dgibby]

9. Thanks for the link.

I kept reading that, but couldn't find a source, and MSNBC was reporting that there was no coordination beforehand.

[Logical]

11. So true. The Obama defenders just do not get it!

[Safetykitten]

14. Strategery-wise, can someone explain the upside of this? Really curious.

How did this happen? Moron staffer? Communication error? Outlook not synching?

[Logical]

16. I have no idea what he was thinking!

[madamesilverspurs]

3. No.

Unlike Boner, he behaved like a mature adult.

[SusanaMontana41]

For once I don't mind. I want to watch Perry self-destruct. nt

[WingDinger]

4. Fuck the little things. Content. Context. Concept. If he moves it to be cordial?

[treestar]

6. Yep. Can't believe a deal is being made of this.

It's crap.

[Logical]

12. Of course you don't. Because you are wearing blinders......

Why in the world does he pick that date if he was not going to make a stand for that date?

Please explain the point of picking a date he knew would cause a argument unless he was willing to take on the GOP over it?

[treestar]

23. Why take a stand over a date?

I have to schedule things day to day in my work, and I'll be damned if I'm going to start a big drama over every single date to make sure I "win" and it's on the date that would be most ideal to me.

This is crap.

[FarLeftFist]

7. I actually think it's a good thing, strategically...

Because he lets people know he has a jobs plan before the GOP debate begins, then looks like he isn't obstructing them, at the same time it will make the GOP look stupid because everything they say about him on the 7th Obama will eviscerate in his speech on the 8th. People won't care about the GOP after they hear the President is bringing forth a jobs plan.

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. Except for ONE MAJOR THING: NFL opening night...Saints v. Packers. NO ONE

will be watching that speech.

[Tx4obama]

20. The speech will be BEFORE the game. n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. 9:00 ET....I don't think so. That's right in the middle of the game.

NO @ GB 8:30 PM Lambeau Field

The game starts at 8:30 ET

http://www.nfl.com/schedules?seasonType=REG

[Tx4obama]

26. The speech will be BEFORE the game.

Excerpt:

A White House official says "We won't conflict with football," meaning an early time frame for the speech.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/31/obama-jobs-speech-congress-joint-session_n_944322.html

[turntxblue]

27. Good points, FarLeftFist! n/t

[provis99]

10. typical gutless Obama caving.

[Tx4obama]

13. President Obama did NOT cave. He was held hostage again by the GOP terrorists.

The House has to pass a resolution in order for President Obama to give a speech in The House.
President Obama just can't walk in there when he wants.
Without The House voting yes to the resolution then there could not be a speech.

Put the blame where it belongs ---> on The GOP!

[Logical]

15. WTF are you talking about.....

Obama started this and wanted the fight. Now he is caving to what the GOP is telling him again.

[Tx4obama]

18. Bullshit.

The Obama administration got the okay from Boehner's office for the September 7th date.
Then Boehner changed his mind.
Without The House voting yes on a resolution for the joint session there's no way Obama can just show up and give the speech.

Learn the facts before blaming Obama for something that the GOP did.

[SusanaMontana41]

21. When you give hostage-takers 98 percent of what they want to release the first hostage,

don't be surprised when they do it again.

[former9thward]

22. Bullshit.

Absolutely nothing stopped him from giving the speech on Sept. 7th from Oval office or some other place.

[in_cog_ni_to]

25. EXACTLY! n/t

[pintobean]

19. Yes. I just have to wonder who's great idea it was.

It was foolish.