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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:08 PM
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Only solution, focus on Boner having already agreed to Wednesday
Put them on the defensive. The whole thing is a scheme to make Obama look bad no matter
what he does. He looks callous if he keeps Wednesday; he looks like a wimp if he moves to Thursday; the NFL game is Thursday so it won't work anyway. They just love to manipulate. The story about Boner agreeing to the Wednesday night time should be yelled everywhere. Put the scheming GOP on the defensive.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:09 PM
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1. I hope there's some proof of that
because the President is unarmed in he said/she said
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:13 PM
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2. it`s the president of the united states of america mr boner....
if he wants that night he`s got it.

he`s far more important than you or your circus of clowns and geeks.
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:19 PM
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3. Do we know that is accurate?
Assuming it is, do you really think that would look presidential?
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:28 PM
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5. Kicking GOP ass looks presidential to me.
I don't care what the circumstances are -- Obama should insist on getting his own way for the same reason rethugs constantly do -- because they, by God, want what they want.

But if a solution is needed, it's this one:

Obama should say to Boner and his Knights who say No: "The address I'm going to make is about national policy and national welfare. The debate you bozos want to have is about nothing but partisan politics.

Since Republicans apparently cannot be trusted -- even once -- to put partisanship behind personal gain and the national interest, then, as President, I'll just have to do that FOR them.
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 09:37 PM
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8. A rant like that might sell on DU, but it would be a political disaster.
Edited on Wed Aug-31-11 09:53 PM by badtoworse
For one thing, most people would see that as juvenile behavior, the sort of thing that 10 year olds do in the school yard. Moreover, throwing down the gauntlet like that in a negotiating situation rarely wins, especially when your adversary doesn't have to give you what you want.

In my view, he has two options; both have negatives, but one is better than the other: 1.) He can give the speech on Wednesday night from the White House and possibly excoriate the GOP for ignoring the national interest. At first glance, this might look attractive even though the speech would lack the impact of one before a joint session. The problem is that on the matter of urgency and the national interest, his hands aren't clean either. He waited for weeks until after his vacation to address the jobs issue, a fact that the GOP would certainly point out if he tries to tar them with ignoring the problem. Considering that, can he claim the matter is so urgent that he has to speak on Wednesday night rather than Thursday? He needs to be careful with that or he'll look like a hypocrite. I think this is a risky strategy with little upside potential.

Option 2 would be to graciously accept Boner's offer of Thursday and try to finish before the Packer Saint game starts. The downside is that he will not have as large an audience since the speech would not exactly be in prime time and some people will want to watch the pre-game show. On the plus side, he will appear more focused on fixing a serious problem rather than winning a pissing match. It's not the best, but it's the better of two bad options.

ETA: It appears that Obama has selected Option 2. He must have read my post (just kidding)
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:22 PM
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4. the scheme is Obama is to take orders from The White Men.
Has a president ever been this disrespected before? This is unbelievable and there is a lot of time left before the election - what other nasty shit are these poeple going to do?

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 09:02 PM
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6. good luck with that
the sound bite is already set: Boner Backs Down Obama. Film at 11.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 09:24 PM
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7. Too bad Obama didn't listen to you.
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