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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:24 PM
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"Leave the matter of religion to the family altar
the church, and the private school, supported entirely by private contributions. Keep the church and state forever separate."
Ulysses S. Grant
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:26 PM
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1. Ah, but Grant wasn't a Founding Father.
Thus has no credibility with the RW wackos. Or that's how I see it.

Tired Old Cynic
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:29 PM
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2. Its sad really
Grant was as intelligent as any of the Founding Fathers and there are very few people during his time that rival him, Lincoln being one of them but no one ever said the Right Wing was very smart.
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:34 PM
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4. Right on all counts, and yes...sad indeed!
Sigh...
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:37 PM
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5. Also, Grant didn't fight on their side.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:47 PM
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8. Mcclellan was the Quintessential Repuker in definition ,pomp-ass ,shortsighted
everything ShrubCo loved.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:31 PM
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3. Jesus was one of the first advocates of separation of Church and State
Edited on Wed Aug-31-11 06:33 PM by orpupilofnature57
when he said " Render unto Caesars what is Caesar's and render unto the God what is the Gods " also against Fascism ,Blue laws and all kinds of things Fundies never thought of.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:38 PM
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6. Grant was on the wrong side of the Civil War...
Real 'Murkins venerate Robert E Lee, not US Grant..

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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 06:42 PM
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7. So wasn't Lee ,possibly the greatest military mind we ever produced.
Could of had thee whole Enchilada but instead Fought the New World Order.
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