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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 01:46 PM
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Airlift of Evil 2.0 ? ( CIA recruits 1,500 from Mazar-e-Sharif to fight in Libya)
Edited on Wed Aug-31-11 01:49 PM by jakeXT
CIA recruits 1,500 from Mazar-e-Sharif to fight in Libya
By: Azhar Masood | Published: August 31, 2011
ISLAMABAD – The Central Intelligence Agency of the United States recruited over 1,500 men from Mazar-e-Sharif for fighting against the Qaddafi forces in Libya.
Sources told TheNation: “Most of the men have been recruited from Afghanistan. They are Uzbeks, Persians and Hazaras. According to the footage, these men attired in Uzbek-style of shalwar and Hazara-Uzbek Kurta were found fighting in Libyan cities.”
When Al-Jazeera reporter pointed it he was disallowed by the ‘rebels ‘to capture images.
Sources in Quetta said: “Some Uzbeks and Hazaras from Afghanistan were arrested in Balochistan for illegally traveling into Pakistan en route to Libya through Iran. Aljazeera’s report gave credence to this story. More than 60 Afghans, mainly children and teenagers, have been found dead after suffocating inside a shipping container in southwestern Pakistan in an apparent human smuggling attempt.

http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/31-Aug-2011/CIA-recruits-1500-from-MazareSharif-to-fight-in-Libya


November 14-25, 2001: US Secretly Authorizes Airlift of Pakistani and Taliban Fighters

At the request of the Pakistani government, the US secretly allows rescue flights into the besieged Taliban stronghold of Kunduz, in Northern Afghanistan, to save Pakistanis fighting for the Taliban (and against US forces) and bring them back to Pakistan. Pakistan’s President “Musharraf won American support for the airlift by warning that the humiliation of losing hundreds—and perhaps thousands—of Pakistani Army men and intelligence operatives would jeopardize his political survival.” (NEW YORKER, 1/21/2002) Dozens of senior Pakistani military officers, including two generals, are flown out. (NOW WITH BILL MOYERS, 2/21/2003) In addition, it is reported that the Pakistani government assists 50 trucks filled with foreign fighters to escape the town. (NEW YORK TIMES, 11/24/2001) Many news articles at the time suggest an airlift is occurring. (INDEPENDENT, 11/16/2001; NEW YORK TIMES, 11/24/2001; BBC, 11/26/2001; INDEPENDENT, 11/26/2001; GUARDIAN, 11/27/2001; MSNBC, 11/29/2001) Significant media coverage fails to develop, however. The US and Pakistani governments deny the existence of the airlift. (US DEPARTMENT OF STATE, 11/16/2001; NEW YORKER, 1/21/2002) On December 2, when asked to assure that the US did not allow such an airlift, Rumsfeld says, “Oh, you can be certain of that. We have not seen a single—to my knowledge, we have not seen a single airplane or helicopter go into Afghanistan in recent days or weeks and extract people and take them out of Afghanistan to any country, let alone Pakistan.” (MSNBC, 4/13/2003) Reporter Seymour Hersh believes that Rumsfeld must have given approval for the airlift. (NOW WITH BILL MOYERS, 2/21/2003) However, The New Yorker magazine reports, “What was supposed to be a limited evacuation apparently slipped out of control and, as an unintended consequence, an unknown number of Taliban and al-Qaeda fighters managed to join in the exodus.” A CIA analyst says, “Many of the people they spirited away were in the Taliban leadership” who Pakistan wanted for future political negotiations. US intelligence was “supposed to have access to them, but it didn’t happen,” he says. According to Indian intelligence, airlifts grow particularly intense in the last three days before the city falls on November 25. Of the 8,000 remaining al-Qaeda, Pakistani, and Taliban, about 5,000 are airlifted out and 3,000 surrender. (NEW YORKER, 1/21/2002) Hersh later claims that “maybe even some of bin Laden’s immediate family were flown out on those evacuations.” (NOW WITH BILL MOYERS, 2/21/2003)

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a1101airlift#a1101airlift
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 01:48 PM
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1. Just charge it. Does the CIA have a American Express card?
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 01:58 PM
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2. When is an invasion a revolution?

When the capitalists powers and their suckfish media says so.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 02:10 PM
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3. I doubt this is true.
Edited on Wed Aug-31-11 02:32 PM by tabatha
The Libyans refused any boots on the ground help. Period. They do not even want UN peacekeepers.

dovenews Libyan™
WE SAY NO TO ANY TROOPS IN ANY FORMS, EVEN IF THEY WERE DANCERS, NEVER MIND "SECURITY ENVOY" CHANGING THE NAME DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE
17 hours ago

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 02:13 PM
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4. Outsourcing war. Why not? We've outsourced everything else.
I wonder if Blackwater is doing the recruiting. They are, according to Jeremy Scahill, working in the area with the CIA on their 'drone program'.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 02:33 PM
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7. This report is NOT TRUE.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 02:56 PM
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8. The report is from the Nation. If you have something to refute it
then post it. No one is surprised at this and the Nation is not generally given to lying. Why not allow the reporter to film what was going on?

And why was the Qatari flag flying in Tripoli when it was occupied by the 'Libyan Rebels'?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 03:26 PM
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11. NO, IT IS NOT.
"Nation.pk" is not The Nation. It's an unsourced website in Pakistan, known for publishing things which later turn out to be false.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 03:44 PM
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13. No need to yell, I see it is not our Nation.
However I just spent a few minutes reading through other articles there about other issues, and found it to be as good as, if not better, than much of our own MSM. Slamming an Arab publication simply because they are not reporting what you would like them to report, doesn't change the fact the information may be true.

I have done a little research on this and recalled back in April that the British Press was reporting the use of 'special forces' on the ground in Libya and asking the British Govt. to explain it. Photos were taken at the time which left little doubt they were there.

And the Qatari flag was photographed flying over Tripoli a few days ago, not to mention the photos taken of 'rebels' who were clearly not Libyans. Explain all that if you can?

Meantime I will reserve judgement on foreign publications. Simply because they are not publishing Western propaganda, doesn't make them not credible to me, never did. Most were pretty accurate, eg, on their Iraq War reports while being slammed here by Bush supporters.

We'll get the truth, probably sooner rather than later and so far, all the evidence is pointing to Western-run operation.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 04:12 PM
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14. The fact that they make up stories makes it not true.
Just because you DO want to believe something doesn't make it accurate, and Nation.pk has a long history of making shit up out of thin air.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 04:49 PM
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15. The fact that you say the are making up stories doesn't make it so.
And the fact that they are not the only ones making these claims, means we don't even need them.

Question, are there Special Forces on the ground or not? From Britain, the CIA and Qatar? And have they been there for months or not?

This publication is not the only one making those claims and you haven't explained the Qatari flag on Qadaffi's compound. What would that be doing there considering, according to you, this was a purely Libyan revolution?

And when will NATO be leaving now that the Libyans, according to you, are in charge? Isn't their mission over now?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 04:51 PM
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16. No, the fact that they make up stories makes it so.
You might want to do a little Googling on the subject. Nation.com.pk is about as accurate and unbiased as Russia Today or Fox News. Red herrings and conspiracy theories don't change that.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 05:38 PM
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18. About as accurate as our own media. Where you are getting your
news from. I certainly don't trust the US MSM for news especially on matters of foreign military exploits. I thought we had learned that from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, wars the US Media acted as the propaganda arm of the Government for. So, what, in your opinion, is a reliable source these days on matters of US military actions around the globe?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:54 PM
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24. Tom Hartmann is not credible now?
Seriously, it's too crowded UTB for any more Progressives to fit there. YOU must be getting lonely up there practically all by yourself.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 07:02 PM
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22. You do not even know the simplest facts. Here is one: Pakistanis are not arabs.
Edited on Wed Aug-31-11 07:03 PM by thewiseguy
Do you ever think about the implications of a story before you post? Do you even know where Pakistan is? Or Afghanistan is? I bet you could not even locate those two countries on a map.

Then you buy into a story suggesting that CIA air lifted 1500 Afghans over 5000 km to fight a war! This story is preposterous that not even Gaddafi is claiming it. lol. You think the CIA could hide airlifting such a massive number of Afghans over 5000 km and keep it a big secret? and guess who breaks the story....A Pakistani newspaper. loooool

You do not even freaking know that Pakistan is not an Arab country and then you are saying you saw photos of rebels that clearly were not Libyans!
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 08:51 PM
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23. Too bad to waste a good rant on something that was not said.
Next time read the comment you are responding to before hitting the post button. IF you had, there was a point to be made, but NOT the one you tried to make.

Hint ~ 'Publication' does not mean 'country'. However, I was mistaken about the publication as it is not an 'Arab publication'.

As for the rest of your diatribe, I am pretty certain I know more about that part of the world than the average American, but I'll leave it that. Next time calm down before going off on a wild, raging tantrum and read first.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 01:08 AM
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25. "I know more about that part of the word than the average American"
and yet you did not even know that Pakistan is not an Arab country. That is pretty sad.

You do not need to get defensive about your lack of knowledge. How about picking up a map for starters and try locating Afghanistan and Pakistan on it... :rofl:
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 04:59 PM
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26. I'm confused. In "About Us" they say they are Pakistan's most quoted newspaper internationally..
From the "About-Us" section:

The Nation

The Nation has a special position in Pakistan's media, as the most respected publication in English, with firm and constructive views, and excellent news coverage. With five editions published daily from three stations, it is the market leader in the Punjab and Islamabad areas, and has established a strong presence in Karachi since its inception there in 2000. It is the newspaper of choice for not only those who make decisions, formulate policy or are opinion leaders but also for those youngsters who will call the shots in the future.

The Nation is part of the Nawa-e-Waqt Group, and thus belongs to the oldest newspaper tradition in the country, which started when Hamid Nizami founded Nawa-e-Waqt the day the Pakistan Resolution was passed in 1940.

TheNation is internationally the most quoted Pakistani newspaper. This is the result of efforts by a professionally skilled and highly motivated editorial team, backed up by state-of-the-art information technology, a huge network of correspondents at home and abroad, and an excellent syndication and wire service network.

Apart from the main news events on the outside pages, the newspaper provides separate sections for city, national, sports, foreign and commerce news.

It also provides a special daily feature section, The Nation Plus, which covers the world of glamour, showbiz, entertainment, the performing arts, and literature, as well as a special Young Nation section for the younger reader, and a special Log On section for those interested in IT, whether rank new beginners or hardcore professionals.

Its editorials are acknowledged as the boldest and most influential in the country, while the wide variety of opinion it publishes by contributing writers, including some of the country's most prominent figures, is unrivalled. Its exclusive reports in politics, sports, commerce and on the public sector, have frequently resulted in action by the concerned institutions.

The Nation has a separate On Campus edition for the new generation of Pakistanis, while its Sunday package comprises the Review, which covers politics and society, with a special section on the environment and science, Life, which focuses on lifestyles, social issues, leisure hobbies and travel, and Style, which gives a peep into the world of film and fashion.

http://nation.com.pk/About-Us.html

OP article: http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/31-Aug-2011/CIA-recruits-1500-from-MazareSharif-to-fight-in-Libya
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 02:18 PM
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5. Our humanitarian, freedom loving CIA, hire mercenaries?? Perish the thought.
Why, just look at all the good works they've performed all over the world. You can check the graveyards and torture chambers for evidence.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 02:31 PM
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6. Interesting. Nt
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 03:02 PM
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9. LOL at people who are believing this...Really LOL
:rofl:

Well at least it was not the aliens from area 51.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 03:29 PM
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12. Why?
The British Press have been reporting this since April since a reporter photographed British 'special forces' on the ground in Libya. Cameron has refused to respond to inquiries about what they were doing there as it was a violation of the UN Resolution.

And there have been plenty of reports from credible sources of Mercenaries from Qatar, eg, for a long time also. Btw, what was the Qatari flag doing on the Qadaffi Compound before it disappeared? Good thing there are still photographers there, although I see now the 'rebels' won't let them photograph stuff that might raise any questions about this whole operation.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 03:05 PM
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10. k&r
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 04:53 PM
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17. Hmmm...Pakistani news org makes disparaging comments about US intelligence
....This must be completely factual right?!?


:sarcasm:
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 05:39 PM
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19. As factual as our own media has been on our various wars I suppose.
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 05:41 PM
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20. Yea....exactly my point....lol thanks!
I mean if we are skeptical of us news shouldn't we apply that same skepticism to foreign media as well?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-11 05:48 PM
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21. Yes, of course. There are a few journalists who have earned
credibility along the way, but they are never seen on our media. All we can do is use multiple sources and see if there is enough of a consensus, along with reports from those journalists who have earned credibility, to make a decision. That is the case here. If other media is reporting that there are foreign forces on the ground in Libya, which they have been all along, then it is reasonable to assume they are there. Who is paying for them is another matter. But I'm sure the truth will eventually trickle out and of course one thing we do know, NATO is still there and not planning on leaving, according to British media, any time soon. That seems to contradict their claims of simply helping to keep Qadaffi from killing civilians. He's gone, their mission is over, but they are apparently not going anywhere right now.
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