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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:14 PM Original message |
University of Texas Adopts Plan to Publish Performance Data on Professors & Campuses |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. The more you make it publish or perish |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. and potentially encourage more grade inflation... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. How would this "grade inflation" occur? |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. how? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. People have been bitchin' about "grade inflation" for years... |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I always looked at my stats from the perspective of the bell curve as just one perspective |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. thanks for this interesting post! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. You see, the idea could be to reduce that dependence by documenting the dialogue according to certai |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. It is possible to see new more authentic definitions of "performance", not just publish or perish. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. what would those new definitions be? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. That could be determined by the participants. In much the same manner as various |
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BadgerKid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:39 PM Original message |
This will just provide opps for more teaching faculty |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. You beat me to it, publish or perish indeed |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think this sort of thing could be useful to a MUCH needed NEW dialogue in this country IF |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
7. A note on UT's history of evaluations... |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I constructed all of my own rubrics and processes when I taught AP Psych. It is tantalizing to think |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Tantalizing and a bit scary! I mean, who uses poli-sci to make an everyday point? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I'm not too sure what you mean by poli-sci. I needed to identify valid descriptors for the work |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. It is absolutely nothing like that now. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
11. aaaaaaargh - politicians need to stay out of education |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Depending upon what a given institution decides the processes by means of which this sort of thing |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. An empty process can be defined collaboratively and mandated, the contents of which would then |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
18. NCLB has worked so well now we are going to destroy our colleges |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. agree |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
19. Professors are EASY to evaluate - this is a waste. I want to see performance data on administrators |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. That's one of my points. If they're going to do this sort of thing, it should involve the entire |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. ...another failed buzz-word: continuous quality improvement = CQI |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Anecdotal or research based evidence? nt |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Trust me. They aren't headed anywhere good. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. +1000 |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
23. another waste of money....well maybe. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. the technology part |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
24. It's not about publishing. The key for "value" and "productivity" in the first draft was class size. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. think you nailed it...and it's probably not really about improving teaching at all...$$$$ |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Of course it's not about improving teaching. We don't even get any TRAINING for teaching. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. +1000 |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. By the way, performance data is already published on every professor in a public university in Texas |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. your |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Thanks for the perspective, I guess. :-((((( |
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melissaf (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. yes, indeed |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. You are right, this is an effort to eliminate smaller classes.. |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
30. what bullshit. Administration initially (in the old days) was hired |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. +1,000,000 |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. agree, completely |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-28-11 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
41. The real issue with a college education is that it costs too damn much. |
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