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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 05:09 PM
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Not so super Nova
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=re6qxnz1



On the contrary, Supernova 1987A illuminates only how poorly the theory of supernova explosions fits the observations.

The official explanatory illustration above is conjectural and relies (again) on invisible matter that the star is supposed to have conveniently pre-released in just the right places and filamentary form to produce the observed effects. To say, "the predicted spectacular brightening of the circumstellar ring" is disingenuous. Neither the presence of the three rings nor the pattern of bright "beads" in the equatorial ring was predicted from theory. "The Hubble images of the rings are quite spectacular and unexpected," said Dr. Chris Burrows of the European Space Agency and the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore, Maryland, when first discovered. "This is an unprecedented and bizarre object. We have never seen anything behave like this before." The pattern of brightening is not explained by an expanding shock front.

There is a more fundamental problem with SN1987A. The star at the center was found to have been a "blue supergiant." But a supernova explosion is thought to require a ten-times bigger red supergiant star. There is no evidence that SK-69 was a red supergiant star, emitting a massive stellar wind. The history of the star is not based on observation, it is a fabrication required by the theory.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 05:13 PM
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1. Perhaps it could be a previously unobserved property of blue supergiants?
Edited on Sat Aug-27-11 05:13 PM by Taverner
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 05:16 PM
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2. Perhaps, perhaps not.... I prefer the unconventional explanation but then that's just me
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=re6qxnz1



>> Here we see the changes in the equatorial ring over time. Some astronomers wrote, "The origin of the circumstellar ring is the outstanding mystery of SN 1987A. Why is the ring so thin, and so nearly circular? Why is it expanding so slowly? Today we have no clear answers to these questions. But we do know that the ring around SN1987A is not unique. Many planetary nebulae have remarkably similar bipolar structures."

How does a star explode? The conventional "implosion followed by explosion" model has many shortcomings. An electric star, on the other hand, has internal charge separation which can power a star-wide, expulsive lightning-flash. The star relieves electrical stress by fissioning or blowing off charged matter. A star also has electromagnetic energy stored in an equatorial current ring. Matter is ejected equatorially by discharges between the current ring and the star. Our own Sun does it regularly on a small scale. However, if the stored energy reaches some critical value it may be released in the form of a bipolar discharge, or ejection of matter, along the rotational axis. The remnant of SN 1987A shows such a bipolar ejection in the form of two blobs of matter (inside the bright ring).

A companion star may initiate a stellar discharge that results in fissioning. It is significant in this context that an unexplained and much-disputed "Mystery Spot" appeared along the line joining the two blobs and was seen briefly a couple of months after the explosion and then quickly faded from sight. The spot was too far away to have been ejected by the supernova and its brightness (10% of the supernova) was too great to be explained by reflection off a cloud of matter. It may have been a faint companion that triggered, or was a part of the circuit of the electrical supernova discharge.

The bright beaded ring shows that matter has been ejected equatorially. However, the ring is not expanding. The other two fainter rings are also arranged above and below the star on the same axis and show similar but fainter "bright spots".
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 05:20 PM
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3. Open to both until the answer is known
Hubble is awesome

Point to it the next time a Bagger says "government doesn't work"
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 05:25 PM
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4. Check this out from 2006, it is pretty telling, they need to switch out "ionized gas" for
Edited on Sat Aug-27-11 05:33 PM by HysteryDiagnosis
plasma and then get their house in order.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/2006/0508-space_tornado.htm

May 1, 2006 The spirals of a "space tornado" may be the first step in the formation of a new star. The structure, observed with NASA's Spitzer infrared telescope, is a shock wave created by a jet of material slamming on a cloud of interstellar gas and dust at more than 100 miles per second, heating the cloud and causing it to glow. Physicists say the jet may have been generated by magnetic fields.

>>BACKGROUND: Using NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope, astronomers have discovered a cosmic jet that looks like a giant tornado whirling in space. The "tornado" is actually a shock wave created by a jet of material flowing through a vast cloud of interstellar gas and dust. The jet slams into neighboring dust clouds at a speed of more than 100 miles per second, heating the dust so that it glows with infrared light. The Spitzer telescope detects that light.<<

ON EDIT TO ADD:

If you didn't scroll down on that previous link, imagine this if you will.


http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=re6qxnz1



>> This photograph shows a 0.6-mm-thick titanium witness plate that has been placed 15 cm in front of a 100 kilo-Gauss, sub-megaampere charged particle beam. Initially, the particle beam was cylindrical but after traveling the 15 cm has filamented. In the sub-gigaampere range, the maximum number of self-pinched filaments allowed before the cylindrical magnetic field will no longer split into "islands" for the parameters above has been found to be 56.

These results verify that individual current filaments were maintained by their azimuthal self-magnetic fields, a property lost by increasing the number of electrical current filaments. The scaling is constant for a given hollow beam thickness, from microampere beams to multi-megaampere beams and beam diameters of millimeters to thousands of kilometers.

This scaling of plasma phenomena has been extended to more than 14 orders of magnitude, so the bright ring of supernova 1987A can be considered as a stellar scale "witness plate" with the equatorial ejecta sheet acting as the "plate" for the otherwise invisible axial Birkeland currents.

Peratt adds, "Because the electrical current-carrying filaments are parallel, they attract via the Biot-Savart force law, in pairs but sometimes three. This reduces the 56 filaments over time to 28 filaments, hence the 56 and 28 fold symmetry patterns. In actuality, during the pairing, any number of filaments less than 56 may be recorded as pairing is not synchronized to occur uniformly. However, there are 'temporarily stable' (longer state durations) at 42, 35, 28, 14, 7, and 4 filaments. Each pair formation is a vortex that becomes increasingly complex."
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 06:03 PM
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7. I dunno - Holoscience is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 06:10 PM
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9. Perhaps, maybe what has happened to me is that I have read there long enough to
be mesmerized by the lingo, or they are ahead of the curve and hard to accept because of it. Many of the things coming out of astronomy and cosmology (which are so surprising) have been predicted by these guys years prior. That gives them weight in my book.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 06:12 PM
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11. Yeah but consider how hard Einstein fought against Quantum Mechanics
"God does not roll dice" was the quote

But he was wrong
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 05:31 PM
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5. New supernova just sighted - we'll be learning a lot more
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 05:34 PM
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6. This is great stuff, cannot wait I just question what it is we are looking at "exactly" we
could be mistaken and that is the premise of the Holoscience site.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 06:08 PM
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8. Is there any wacky conspiracy theory that you DON'T subscribe to?
And post about? Over and over and over and over and over and OVER again?

Next up: Why the Electric Supermoon Causes Autism in Indigo Children!

:crazy:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 06:11 PM
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10. You don't understand and that is an acceptable fact. Please put me on ignore if you can
find the time to do so.
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