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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 11:34 PM
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Remembering Jeanne, Frances, and Charlie in 2004. All 3 hit us in a 6 week period.
It's really hard to look back at them now. The stress was just so great, I wonder how we did it then. Their eyes came within 30 miles, and there was devastating damage around us. We were lucky, and there were mainly downed trees and power lines, no damage to our home. No electricity for days with one of them. I think that was Jeanne. I thought I would always remember which one hit when, but I would have to look it up now.

Finding ice was a nightmare. We managed to keep a little milk and juice that way. Everyone talked about how organized Jeb was, and how lucky we were....but I did not think so. All of the local radio stations were pre-recorded music and talk. One did take one day to let us know which stores were open, which restaurants might be serving. Then just as we were getting used to having local info via battery radio....they said we are now resuming regular programming. And that was it basically. We had satellite radio with batteries, but there was not anything local enough to help.

I hope that has changed. There must be communication when disasters hit, but there was only one day.

We are within the city limits, and we had power restored much faster than those in more rural areas. Some of them were without for weeks.

I remember the oddest thing after the third one...it felt like there was something circling above my head all the time. Like it was exerting pressure on my head. It lasted for days after the hurricanes were over. I thought I was going to have to see a doctor or someone, but it gradually got better.

My husband came back one day from getting ice, and he had tears in his eyes. He had been by to check on a neighbor who lived alone with his two miniature poodles, and the police were there. His housekeeper had found him dead. We had talked to him the day before trying to keep him calm and offering to get things he needed. He sounded like he really didn't care. His huge oak had fallen on a neighbor's house, and I think the stress was too much for his age and health.

I forget which one moved soo..oo..oo slowly, with the winds howling for a day and a half. Frances? Not sure now. It was horrible.

I remember that I was glad some restaurants were serving even limited meals. By the end of 3 days we still had a little canned and dry food left, but the stores were empty. They restocked after a few days, but it was stunning to think of empty stores. People were probably hoarding.

We bought a generator after the storms. We haven't needed it, thank goodness. It is still in the huge box it came in. The directions look complicated, and the darn thing is so heavy. I guess we would have to call a neighbor to help us.

We live inland in Florida about halfway between the east and west coast. But the strength of the 3 storms was still very great when they got to us. I had not seen that happen since Donna in 1960. To have 3 like that in row was almost unbelievable.

I feel for the people in Irene's path. It's a helpless feeling to see a monster storm coming and be at its mercy. Very thankful it weakened a little.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 11:38 PM
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1. Wow. I can't imagine. I'm so glad you weren't affected by
Irene. :hug:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 11:44 PM
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2. One little correction.
It was hurricane Charley, that bugger did a number where I live, but it was nothing to what I went through when I lived in Homestead. :scared:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 11:50 PM
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3. You mean the spelling or the length of time it took to howl?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 11:52 PM
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4. Spelling.
The howl is still in my head. We were six weeks without power.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 11:57 PM
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5. Wow, we were lucky then.
I will never forget the howling sound. It was like a nightmare.
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:05 AM
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11. Were you in Homestead for Andrew?
I hope not. My God, that was awful.

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 10:12 AM
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25. Yes I lived Just across from the Air Force base.
Lost everything.
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 03:07 PM
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26. I'm so sorry.
I didn't go through it but I had friends who lived in Homestead and went through it. It destroyed their lives.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 08:27 PM
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31. Homestead was just flattened. Very tragic. So sorry.
Our friends were not far from there, the ones who lost their house. They ended up in the bathroom, two of them in the bathtub as a hole was blown through in another part. They never got over it enough to take any storm casually. She would panic.
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 12:00 AM
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6. Frances was indeed winds howling for a day and a half
Edited on Sat Aug-27-11 12:03 AM by kdmorris
She sat out in the Bahamas and then started moving toward Florida at 2 mph. We set a record for the most number of consecutive days under a hurricane warning. And then Jeanne showed up 3 weeks later, when the debris wasn't even picked up and the electricity had been on for just a few days...

Edited to add: we actually listened to Ivan updates on the portable radio. We were in the cone for a short time, but it eventually went to the Panhandle. I was ready to leave when I thought we might get another hurricane when we didn't even have anything back from the first one.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 12:35 AM
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7. I think Jeanne did the most damage, I need to check it out.
Frances was loud, but I think Jeanne was more powerful..or maybe Charley?
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 06:16 AM
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17. Where you live, Charley and Jeanne would have prob been worse wind-wise
Frances weakened a lot before she moved over Florida. She was just a category 2 storm. For us, the flooding was incredible and the ground became saturated so badly that there were a lot of downed trees (and power lines). Slow moving, LOTS of rain and incessant winds for days. But it was the first storm that we had.

Charley would have been the first storm you had. Because of the path, we had minimal effects from Charley. (SE Florida). If I had to guess, I would say that Charley probably did the most damage to your area and then Frances and Jeanne just damaged what was left over.

Jeanne hit about 2 miles from where Frances did. She was a category 4 storm and threw around a bunch of debris left over from Frances. But she moved fast.

I do hope that everyone takes it seriously without freaking out. I understand the fear, as well.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 12:47 AM
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8. I was in Florida when Andrew hit, I was in Ft Walton Beach. The waves were very high.
It was scary. I remember. :hug:




I grew up in So Calif, have lived through a few earthquakes. Scary stuff.






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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:00 AM
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9. Andrew was a monster. So many homes were flattened.
Our neighbors moved here from there after having their home destroyed. They never got used to having oak trees over their house. They never got over Andrew.
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:08 AM
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12. I had a friend
who basically lost her mind over Andrew. She, her husband, and 2 little girls, one still in diapers, huddled in a bathroom for hours. The roof was ripped off, they lost both cars, the whole house was destroyed and she never got over it. Her anger at her husband for refusing to leave caused her to divorce him and she started drinking and drugging. She quit taking my phone calls so I don't know what happened to her and her children. Last I heard she was living with some guy who was dealing drugs and her ex-husband was taking her to court to get custody of the children.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:30 AM
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13. My only grand baby was born on Aug 19th 1992, when Andrew first formed, I will never forget Andrew,...
I loved living in Florida. It is a very picturesque state, much like my home state of California.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:01 AM
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10. 7 years this month. Hard to believe.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 05:13 AM
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14. Jeanne was a direct hit on the coast where I was living at the time.
Cat 3 storm when it hit. The winds where incredible and lasted about 5 hours. Then the eye passed overhead and we had an hour of dead calm, clear night sky and stars, then hurricane force winds started again for another 5 or so hours.

To this day if the wind picks up I get a tiny bit nervous.

We didn't have electric for 2 weeks but the gov. kept water and food available at a pick up point about a mile from my house.

We had run from Frances, went to Baton Rouge, and came home to pick up the mess and Jeanne hit two weeks later. We didn't have the money or energy to run again so we stayed put for Jeanne.

After Jeanne anything larger than a cat 1 and I leave if I can.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 06:06 AM
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15. I remember them well
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 06:08 AM
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16. I remember that well
My sister and her husband packed up their important documents, took the kids and headed to another sister in Atlanta - they had had enough!!
Good luck this season! :hi:
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 06:44 AM
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18. I agree. I have been in hurricanes in S. Carolina and now here.
The hurricane prep here is shit. People are greedy. they get all crazy. In S. Carolina, you pulled up your car in line for gas, got out, talked and laughed, moved the car along as needed. And can you imagine, they actually worked on keeping trees and limbs off of the power lines in the off season. The evacuations were orderly and routes well marked. FL felt like every man for himself. People extremely selfish... I work at a hotel.. We get a lot of evacuees. These people were more worried about their breakfast the next day and knowing when the power would come back on, than one another. It was the height of one of the storms and the electricity went out... within a 1/2 hr, people were coming into the office to ask if I had contacted the power company to come fix the electricity? In the middle of the storm. Other guests were all looking for food and coffee (how do I make coffee when I have NO electricity)? I forget which storm it was, but one of them, I ended up getting stuck working for 26hrs straight. I had no idea how my family was and I was stuck at work because no one could make it in. No compassion for one another. AND that's the big part of the shitty mentality down here in FL.
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 07:39 AM
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21. The preparations I've been through down here (Delray Beach, FL)
do kind of bear out what you are saying. I have been through Tropical Storms in Maryland and one hurricane when I was living in Va Beach, but I was a young girl at the time, so I doubt I knew anything about the preparations, much less how people acted.

I've seen people rush a water pallet in Wal-Mart and knock down elderly people. I was ASTOUNDED that people can be so selfish. I mean... the elderly and poor (and very young) suffered the most after Frances (no power for weeks). I was in my 30's at the time and I'm not saying it didn't suck being stuck in a house with not AC for 3 weeks (the battery operated thermostat said it as 98 degrees in the house) but...if I were 80, I think it would have sucked more. I had just never been in an area where so many perfectly healthy young people (15-50 years of age) would sacrifice their mothers to get theirs. I understand panic but DAMN.

The one exception to that was after Frances. Our National Guard station "water and ice" was in a predominantly Haitian community. Every thing was very orderly and no one seemed like they were willing to kill each other to survive. I guess most of the community had been through so much in their home country that no power for weeks wasn't really that big of a deal to them? I don't know.... speculation there, but they did seem to understand the needs of the less fortunate.

After Wilma, I sat in line for gas for 5 hours (with the car off most of the time, but we bought a generator when Katrina came through). That was actually kind of a bonding experience because we were all sitting out on the sidewalk talking between moving. When people tried to cut in line (amazingly it was happening pretty frequently), the rest of us would band together to make them take their proper place in line. If they wouldn't get back out of line, we went and got the cop that was sitting there for those occasions.

I did call to report when the power went out, but that was just so that FPL knew. They already said that they weren't coming out until after the TS force winds on the other side of the storm died out.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 06:47 AM
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19. I remember Jeanne.
She dumped a lot of water on Midtown Atlanta and the winds were ferocious.

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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 07:24 AM
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20. That's one of the reasons I wouldn't live in the South, them hurricanes.
Hurricane Andrew was bad, it wiped that one town clean off the map.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 07:43 AM
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22. My parents were here in N. Florida and were literally trapped for days
from all of the fallen trees.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 04:22 PM
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29. Yep, same here...
we were out of power for 8 days. My husband and friends drove all over the neighborhoods w/chainsaws to help folks. I have never seen so many fallen trees in houses in all my life.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 07:54 AM
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23. I remember Andres ('92) vividly - South Dade looked like a war zone
Jeanne, Frances, and Charlie -- bothe Jeanne and Frances were slow movers -- weren't the worst storms I saw, but they were just unrelenting.

Many of us in West Broward are bitter with the NWS over Wilma. Wilma did damage concistent with a CAT 3, but to hear them tell it, Wilma was no worse than a line of afternoon thunderstorms.

Before leaving Florida I'd done the Hurricane drill too many times. Going to Publix and watching people grab all of the bread, eggs, peanut butter, and bottled water. Getting in line at Home Depot at 3:30 in the morning to buy plywood under the watchful eye of armed guards. I've traded hurricanes for tornadoes now. I don't miss those days.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 08:04 AM
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24. Charlie kicked our ass!
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 04:12 PM
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27. we also went thru them, live 16 miles from coast central Fl
we were well prepared, storm shutters, generator & enough room to take care of our two families on the beach. I feel for those going thru this now, & not equipped for it. It is such a stressful ecperience.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 08:10 PM
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30. We were thankful for our investment in storm shutters.
They paid for themselves during those storms. We could hear things hitting them instead of the windows.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 04:20 PM
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28. That was one hell of a season...
why this Floridian never takes any hurricane for granted. Tornadoes all around, especially.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 08:48 PM
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33. I wonder where we got the courage for 3 in that short time.
I guess we just tuned everything out but the howling wind...that can NOT be tuned out. I was fearful for a long time after that.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 10:54 AM
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34. We just went into emergency mode...
where you suspend the fear and just live in the moment. The headaches came later. I know our kids were super-stressed after that time, though.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 08:31 PM
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32. Will never forget it. I even remember Walmart giving away free batteries for Frances.
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