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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 07:19 AM
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President Obama acted the way he did when it came to the wars and
Wall Street because he didn't really have a choice.

If he would have gone to the wall for the people and tried to stop the tide of corruption and profit, war and remembrance, he would have surely lost.

And he and his advisor's are counting on us to vote for him again because he knows that we know what would happen if the other side wins.

I surely do know what will happen if the other side wins, more of the same, just a lot more of that same.

If it wasn't our time with a democrat in the white house and both chambers deeply blue, when will it be our time?

On our side there is always an excuse on the other side there are no apologies.

Is it even worth saving, this deeply corrupted culture of ours that taunts an honest man every day.

We have the ability to have the world at our fingertips, all the injustice and corruption in plain view and yet we lack the will to change any of it.

Endless wars for what purpose.

The other party celebrates a man who would okay another man be put to death even though it was well known that man was innocent.

We have another man in the White House who knows where all the guilt for the financial meltdown is, including the players, and yet nothing is being done, no real change, no punishment. And yet out prisons are crowded with poor people whose only real crime is that they stole too little...

I was born into a culture that worshiped progress, that tomorrow would indeed be better.

I have a computer on my coffee table but no universal health care, a wonderfully clear and bright television and yet more people are without hope of ever getting out of debt, ever getting ahead, ever having a better life.

Why do we do it, stay here on DU and bother ourselves so much about what should be?

My mom told me, right before she passed on, that my passion scared her, that she was afraid for me, that my compassion would bring ruin to me.

Well, Mom, it's true. I am so frustrated, so angry at how things have turned out.

If only we could have flying cars like we all thought we would...
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 07:23 AM
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1. Some how, some time it will happen. Keep up the wake up messages.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 07:26 AM
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2. If you don't stand up to corruption you are complicit in corruption.
All sales jobs of hope and change and audacity aside.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 07:34 AM
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5. That's why I am in moral pain because of this dilema and my
passionate persona...
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 07:52 AM
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7. your local right wing radio stations, like mine, sell insurance lies, bush, iraq, torture,
bank deregulation, global warming denial, and drug lies, while swiftboating our reps and candidates. and they have been 24/7 for 20 years.

RW talk radio is their best weapon and it make everything the left does harder. it makes everything we want obama to do harder.

yet there is NO organized opposition/challenge to it from the left. no picketing when they did the groundwork repetition of the lies that got us into iraq. no picketing of the stations or boycotting or complaints to the local sponsors of those stations. or the universities that endorse them by broadcasting sports on those stations while they helped limbaugh sell 'club gitmo' t-shirts.

that makes US complicit.


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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 08:56 AM
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13. How would you know?
You had to watch Fahrenheit 911 to see the massive demonstrations at Bush's first inauguration and that came out in 2004.

If a tree falls in the forest and TV N00Z doesn't cover it, did it really happen?

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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 07:49 PM
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22. because i've been studying it for 20 years and i've seen it kick internet ass
and make all things harder for the left.

when you hear all the blowhards say the exact same lie for a week and then hear it from the celebrity talking heads on TV, when you hear acorn get trashed for years and then finally beaten, or turn the democratic party into the democrat party, or swiftboat anita hill and gore and kerry and van jones and on and on, and the left finally reacts AFTER it's been pounded into the earholes of 50 mil a week, like lazy twits, and get their asses handed to them while they strategize uselessly about the content of messaging and framing better while volume-wise they can't be heard.... oh, never mind.
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 07:56 AM
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8. so you'll be voting for the stupid treasonous republican then. you getting paid for this post?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 07:33 AM
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4. I remember the discussion that 2008 was a change election.
That could only be a concept if the Democratic victories were seen as a change in direction from the policies. If true, you are incorrect.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 07:35 AM
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6. But if he signs us up for more wars, more moral corruption...
If Wall Street isn't punished they will do it again and again and again...

What change in direction. All talk...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 09:50 AM
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17. Indeed, he did not lead us to a change in direction. The sad part
is he did have a mandate. His agenda seems to have been different (a bipartisan manager instead).
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 08:11 AM
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9. Delete
Edited on Fri Aug-26-11 08:11 AM by vi5
Delete
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 08:12 AM
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10. Saying Obama didnt have a choice is a lie and cop out
Edited on Fri Aug-26-11 08:12 AM by bowens43
I will be voting a straight Dem ticket....with exception of president. I won't be casting a vote for president unless there is a progressive or socialist 3rd party candidate.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 08:50 AM
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11. I think he did what he did so that he would survive as president so
that he could try and get his agenda advanced.

That's the way I see it.

Of course neither of us know for sure...
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 08:55 AM
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12. An impotent president. How inspiring.
:eyes: Unrecced.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 09:20 AM
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14. Not an impotent president but an impotent party...
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 09:23 AM
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15. You claim Obama "had no choice". That is equivalent to calling him impotent.
Or else you don't know what the meaning of "chief executive" is.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 09:25 AM
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16. but then again, perhaps you don't know the meaning of shared government
where the president has to convince the congress to go his way.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 09:52 AM
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18. Whatever. I'm not gonna buy what you're selling here.
He asked voters to hold him more accountable than they had held previous elected officials, and that's what we do here. I understand you don't like it, and respect your opinion. I disagree.

So I'm done here.
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 09:58 AM
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19. I have a lot more respect and understanding of the President after reading some Saul Alinsky. nt
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 09:58 AM
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20. The executive has plenty of power. He is not a delicate flower controlled by congress.
He may not be able legislate but he can block legislation, even with a minority in congress. That's why he has a veto. And, somebody should introduce him to it and instruct him on it's use....if he's as ethical and on the side of the people as you seem to think he is.

I don't.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 02:11 PM
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21. Compassion will save us all.
Compassion is knowing that deep inside we are not separate and what we do to any strand we do to ourselves. If we are to stop the cycle, it has to be with in ourselves. The struggle is to fight for justice without harming ourselves or others.
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