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Playinghardball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:33 PM
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What's Big And Red And Didn't Create Any Jobs?


Source: MoveOn.org
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:41 PM
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1. Interesting. This points out the *real* job crisis in America.
Yeah, when Shrub retired, the economy was hemorrhaging jobs, and it took months to stop the bleeding. The job market isn't healing well under Obama. But the 350 ton gorilla in the room is the fact that under Shrub, the economy never created enough jobs to offset growth in the working population. We ran a deficit in job creation for the entire eight years, not to mention a mini-recession after the dot-com absurdity.

So yeah, 2008 was rough, but we were already in a full blown crisis before the first bank tumbled.


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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:43 PM
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2. dang I was gonna guess
Nebraska

moving to the big 10. :thumbsdown:
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:22 PM
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7. I was gonna guess Boner's nose.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 02:43 PM
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3. But, but that's evidence with real scientific-type numbers. Beliefs trump that kinda shit everytime.
What else you got?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:01 PM
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4. actually the numbers do not ring true to me
Are they from the household survey?

I think that is normally considered less reliable than the establishment survey. From the establishment survey, I get that about 1.5 million jobs were created in 2003 and 2.3 million were created in 2004.

Not anything like Clinton numbers (which were often over 3 million a year) but not the hugely negative numbers from the chart in the OP either seeming to show 2 million lost jobs in 2003. Maybe that is true in the manufacturing sector.???

ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt

year - jobs - private sector jobs
2001...... 131,826 ** 110,708 **
2002...... 130,341 ** 108,828
2003...... 129,999 ** 108,416
2004...... 131,435 ** 109,814
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:02 PM
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5. The OBAMA tax cuts haven't helped very much, either. nt
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:21 PM
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6. I was going to say pretty much everything we've tried thus far.
Still waiting...
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 11:02 PM
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8. Boehner?
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