Exclusive photos of what the DC quake did to the National Cathedral - PHOTOS

[Tx4obama]

Exclusive photos of what the DC quake did to the National Cathedral

Nine photos: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/08/what-really-happened-national-cathedral-quake/41644/

[RoccoR5955]

1. Those who believe in god, might say that...

...this is punishment.

[Renew Deal]

12. Or those that don't might say that.

[Fla_Democrat]

19. Yea, I'm sure the Westboro Baptist ...

will try to make that point.








:smoke:

[Brother Buzz]

39. god may be wicked at times....

but she also has a tremendous sense of humor.

Louis Agassiz's view of divine intelligence as the central ordering force in nature impeded his acceptance of Darwin's theory of evolution


(photo taken at Leland Stanford Junior College, 1906)

[Raschel]

54. Maybe freepers and tbaggers. Others might say that God is giving the east coast a heads up on their

earthquake preparedness and structure vulnerabilities.

:P Take that, you who use God to serve your hateful thoughts. (not you poster)

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. Those look rather unsafe.

[notadmblnd]

3. The National Cathedral isn't insured?

from the article-

"The National Cathedral, which provided these images, has started soliciting donations to help repair the structure of the building."

[Kalidurga]

5. maybe they have a huge deductible?

In any case they should just pray for god to fix it since he is the one that ruined it.

[dgibby]

8. Earthquake coverage requires a separate policy.

Doubt they'd have thought it would be necessary.

[notadmblnd]

9. That's doesn't make sense

Why a separate policy?

[dgibby]

15. More money for the insurance companies, I guess.

I have earthquake insurance on my house in SC. It's located between 2 fault lines. Had to buy a separate policy because Homeowner's doesn't cover quakes. Same with flood insurance.

[notadmblnd]

29. Is that just in your state?

My parents homeowner's covered the damage from the tornado that touched down in their back yard a couple of years ago.
I wonder if it is a state regulation thing or if some natural disasters are more worthy than others?

[RobinA]

52. In PA

this is certainly the case. People think homeowners covers anything that happenes to your home, but generally it only covers certain things. And certain types of certain things. Flood is a perfect example. Some kinds of water damage are covered, others not. I think it's something like...it doesn't cover damage from running water or some such. It'll only take down that dead oak tree AFTER it falls on your house, etc.

[kwassa]

28. Insurance policies insure against specific risks.

If it isn't listed in the policy, it isn't covered. This is true of all insurance policies.

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. Specific risks, by the by, you are not covered for floods

either... I got to get that federal insurance myself.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. They will need an extensive engineering report

including... x-rays for structural elements.

[dennis4868]

6. Obama's fault

[treestar]

50. :)

and the fault that shifted the earth, too!

[johnd83]

7. It is sad that the building took so much damage

Stone buildings are particularly susceptible to earthquakes

[GoneOffShore]

13. No 'national religion', no need for a "National Cathedral".

[dgibby]

16. It's owned by the Episcopal Church,

not the government.

[GoneOffShore]

18. Then why call it the "National Cathedral"?

[Renew Deal]

20. Why call the First National Bank of Pennsylvania the First National Bank of Pennsylvania?

[Gormy Cuss]

21. Because Congress gave it the designation as a national house of prayer.

The Episcopal Church's name for it is the Cathedral of Saints Peter and Paul.

[GoneOffShore]

23. Then that's what it should be called.

[Gormy Cuss]

24. Which, what Congress dubbed it or what its denomination calls it?

That's the problem. Technically, both names are correct.

[GoneOffShore]

25. Remove the Congressional appellation. It's offensive & violates the separation clause.

[Renew Deal]

26. Do something about it.

[Nye Bevan]

40. Wow. Some people are very easily offended. You must go through life in perpetual outrage (nt)

[dgibby]

22. It's a nickname.

"The Washington National Cathedral, officially named the Cathedral Church of Saint Peter and Saint Paul, is a cathedral of the Episcopal Church located in Washington, D.C., the capital of the United States. Of neogothic design, it is the sixth largest cathedral in the world, the second largest in the United States,<1> and the fourth tallest structure in Washington, D.C. The cathedral is the seat of both the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church, currently Katharine Jefferts Schori, and the Bishop of the Diocese of Washington, currently John Bryson Chane. In 2009, nearly 400,000 visitors toured the structure. The congregation numbers 800."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_National_Cathedral

[Recursion]

55. State funerals are held there (nt)

[Renew Deal]

17. "The foundation operates and funds the cathedral, which is not funded by the U.S. government."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_National_Cathedral

[johnd83]

31. Wow

Nevermind the official designation it is still a beautiful building

[Historic NY]

10. Thats going to put union masons & stonecutters to work...its going to take .

sometime to fix, everything will have to be taken apart.

[Renew Deal]

11. I'm glad it's not worse

And that everyone is safe. Hopefully they can get it fixed safely.

[MrScorpio]

14. Damn! nt

[uppityperson]

27. So glad no one got hit by those and it wasn't worse.

[Ruby the Liberal]

30. Wait, what? The crack caused discoloration when it happened?

Looks like something that was once repaired reopened.

[XemaSab]

35. That's totally been patched before

n/t

[Historic NY]

44. Badly...too.

[Tumbulu]

32. I remember my first trip to Manhattan

I was petrified of the idea of a major earthquake hitting it.

My friends assured me that I was being ridiculous to worry about such a thing.....

[Renew Deal]

36. It will happen sooner or later

But hopefully not in our lifetimes.

[A HERETIC I AM]

33. I was confirmed in that building.

I was raised Episcopalian and my confirmation took place and had my first communion there. It is a beautiful cathedral, to be sure.

But, it is after all, a structure dedicated to perpetuating a myth.

Still, I have fond memories.

[Tx4obama]

34. There have been many funerals there, I'm sure the church/services have a place in the memories and

hearts of friends and family members.

[PurityOfEssence]

37. I believe in the separation of church and church

What's the problem?

[kentauros]

41. It's actually a good thing that there are different types of earthquakes.

Had this one been like the 6.3 that hit Christchurch back in February (where the land thrust upward, versus side-to-side) then we would have seen this instead and had lives lost:





Thanks for the link to the images. It's still pretty amazing just how fragile our structures are in the face of the ground moving whichever way.

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. With teh ammount of walls collapsing

we were actually lucky none got hurt...

Yes the national cathredal will need a tad of TLC, but there are buildings near the epicenter that had facades fall onto the street.

[kentauros]

46. I do not doubt there was damage from collapsing walls.

I'm neither making light of this nor mocking, so please understand that. I am only pointing out that you were all very lucky it wasn't the same type of quake-action as happened in Christchurch this past February. As I recall one geologist stating (and I'm paraphrasing here) : "Buildings weren't made to be tossed into the sky and then fall back into place again without damage."

Their quake was "only" a 6.3, and yet over 180 people died.

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. Christ Church, like this,

was close to the surface...

Now this one... may I use the F word? (Fracking)... the number of quakes in areas that usually don't have them and fracking is a hell of a coincidence.

Still they were lucky... very lucky that all the damage was just physical.

I live in quake country and yes they have a different feel, depending on the type...

[kentauros]

51. Another unfortunate aspect to fracking

is that with the evidence that it does cause some earthquakes, it's also making us paranoid to the point of questioning all earthquakes. Most really do have natural causes. When I consider how big of an area this quake affected, I'm more apt to think this was a natural quake and not related to fracking. Everything I've ever seen for fracking-related quakes were that they were very localized, and did not affect very large areas (as in, multi-state ranges like this one.)

I don't know the geology of the east coast very well, so I'm not certain this couldn't be fracking-related. I'm just not getting the feel that it is. Mountaintop Removal also causes earthquake-like effects to the surrounding landscape, but again, it's very localized, even in the same geology as this quake. Sure, it's on the surface instead of below ground. But I'd think any past underground-mine explosions would have caused similar effects over a large area.

There's a lot to consider here, and I'd rather wait until the geologists have analyzed the data and any fracking in that area also taken into consideration with the whole event. Until then, I will defer to this being nature-made ;)

[MilesColtrane]

43. The pieces of those spires look they were just laid atop one another.

Did they not use cement 100 years ago?

[krispos42]

45. Sadly, it was before the invention of duct tape.

:-(

[ensho]

48. wow, that's a lot of damage - its going to be closed down for awhile

nt

[Hutzpa]

49. Aha

One of the comments on there made me laugh, dude on the picture is wearing a blue hat, so
the Cathedral is in safe hands. :evilgrin:

[Carolina]

53. Whether

you're a believer or not, the National Cathedral of St Peter and St Paul is a beautiful structure that took nearly a century to complete. It is an Episcopal Cathedral and generally Episcopalians are liberal. I went to the affiliated National Cathedral School for Girls in the 1960s and early 70s right after LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act. And I will always treasure the time spent, especially Friday morning chapel, in the Cathedral before its completion. As a work of art, it is a wonder.

Godspeed to my frineds there, and I hope that there is not more, deeply seated structural damage.