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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 05:46 PM
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Can The Pan Am Bomber Be Returned To Prison To Serve Out His Sentence?
I don't remember him being pardoned so I assume the sentence still stands so I'm wondering if justice can still be applied
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 05:47 PM
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1. I'm all for that as long as every official involved in the deal
goes to prison with him.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 05:50 PM
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2. Maybe, if he can be found.
It depends on the new government and how many axes they choose to grind.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 06:05 PM
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3. Barstid was supposed to be dead by now, wasn't he? n/t
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 06:14 PM
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4. Maybe we'll all get lucky. . .
and a rebel group will "take care of him". Or the Mossad. Or even the Navy SEALs. Who is to say they're not in country right now, amid the chaos?

:nuke:
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Denzil_DC Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 06:50 PM
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5. He was released under license by a Scottish court
He is still being supervised by telephone by a local council as a condition of his release.

When the Lockerbie trial was set up, the US agreed to abide by its findings. That included custody through the Scottish legal system, which went through proper legal procedures to allow his compassionate release, so without creating a serious diplomatic incident and basically inventing a whole new class of law, it's hard to see how it could be done.

Besides which, there is a vast amount of evidence that Megrahi was framed. The two key witnesses in his conviction were bribed by the US. Some of the other evidence will also be very embarrassing for past US governments and the CIA, so if these calls I'm seeing for a "justice" play out, expect a very interesting court case.

Check out this site for updated stories about the Megrahi case: http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.com

and this one: http://www.justiceformegrahi.com/ (note some of the sponsors)

Also note that a Scottish Criminal Review Cases Commission report concluding that Megrahi's conviction was a miscarriage of justice is due to be released in Scotland later this year.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 09:38 PM
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10. Interesting...Thank You
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Denzil_DC Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 09:43 PM
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12. You're welcome, Me.
I'm watching a lot of RW pols like Romney trying to stir the pot about this right now, partly as a way to get back at Obama. If they knew anything about the case, they'd know that justice is the last thing they really want.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 07:31 PM
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6. I think the new program is "Kill" and ask questions later?
:shrug:
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 07:35 PM
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7. Sure, but we'll have to ask the CIA who really did it first.
The Libyan gent freed on humanitarian grounds has been widely acknowledged as being wrongly convicted. He was freed because he was going to get a new trial, and the evidence to be presented would have been very embarrassing to both the U.S. and the U.K.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 08:17 PM
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8. I thought he was freed because he was near death?
Guess that was bullshit too then.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 09:36 PM
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9. Well...that was the story.
He does have prostate cancer and is dying, but he wasn't "near death". The humanitarian thing was just an excuse to get him out of prison and out of the country so the whole affair would go away.

People who testified against him have now admitted that they lied under oath, it turned out that the witness who fingered him was paid $2 million by the government to do so, some of the bomb bits may have been forged, and the CIA gave tons of documents to the prosecutor that may have exonerated him, while hiding them from his defense.

It was enough that the Scottish courts officially labeled his trial as a "miscarriage of justice". In June 2007, the Scottish government gave him the right to a new trial. After a bunch of hearings, his lawyers filed the papers for a full appeal in April 2009. A few months later, before the trials could begin, he was suddenly released on "humanitarian" grounds.


This guy was a scapegoat. Nelson Mandela himself called for him to get a new trial because of the faked evidence.
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Denzil_DC Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 09:41 PM
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11. He was near death.
A prostate cancer treatment that hadn't yet been cleared for use in Europe was made available to him in Libya. I doubt that'll continue if it makes anyone feel any better.

It's pretty disturbing that so many seem to have bought into the idea that one lone guy was guilty of that atrocity - against a load of evidence if they'd just do a little looking online - while the real perpetrators have never been publicly identified, let alone brought to justice.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 10:09 PM
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13. Shoot a Tomahawk up his sorry ass! n/t
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 10:33 PM
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14. That sounds like a plan.
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