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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:23 PM
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Has anyone else heard this argument about GPAs and taxes?
Apparently there is a new argument from the right-wingers saying that if college students believe in higher taxes for the rich then those college students should have their GPAs redistributed to help the students who did poorly. This analogy seems false to me since students in college have an equal opportunity. They have the same classes, teachers, and curriculum available to them.

It isn't like that in society. Some are born poor, some in broken homes, others are born wealthy. If you can somehow guarantee equality of birth then maybe the analogy would hold up, but since you can't, I find it false.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:26 PM
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1. Yeah I heard about it
Unfortunately college screening processes can't screen out all the crazies.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:28 PM
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2. Here's a good rebuttal
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:29 PM
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3. And the students don't pay the professors to game the grading system.
Edited on Sun Aug-21-11 09:30 PM by grahamhgreen
Besides, democracy doesn't work that way
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ThatPoetGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:37 PM
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4. Well, you can also try it the Republican way -- grades would be inherited.
Your parents get to hand their A's down to you. If your parents had lots of A's, then you start out with a 4.0 average, and no matter how much you screw up, at everything, you'll probably never drop below a 3.5.

If your parents were C students, you'll spend your whole life working hard, being smart, trying to earn enough A's to reach the 4.0 that Bush and the Koch brothers were born with.

When liberals try to create a fairer system, the Republicans will call it a "death tax."
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:40 PM
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5. When college students can improve their GPA ...
by hiring someone else to do the work, they might have a rational argument.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:51 PM
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6. Some do hire others to do the work
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 10:17 PM
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10. Ted Kennedy got kicked out of college
for that.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:52 PM
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7. Plus the fact
that if everybody DID have all the same advantages, there simply wouldn't be enough of those high paying jobs anyway.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:54 PM
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8. If this were really true, the poor kids would have to have their good GPAs stolen from them...
and given to the rich kids.

But hey.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 10:16 PM
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9. Students in college have the same opportunities?
Are you sure?

Some students have tutors hired by their daddy.

Other students have a kid and work two jobs.

Students in college hardly have the same opportunities.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 11:02 PM
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11. I'd gladly compare my GPA and scores on college entrance and Merit
Edited on Sun Aug-21-11 11:04 PM by JDPriestly
Scholarship exams with any Republican any day. Bring it on!!!!
l'd be delighted if we just redistributed wealth according to people's academic achievements. Then the best students could pay the taxes and buy the politicians and make sure that everyone was taken care of.

Joking, of course.



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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 01:34 PM
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12. okay, if the richest person can make no more than 4 times the income of the poorest
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 01:42 PM
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13. Yes, I've had to listen to this tripe from a right wing family member.
The correct response to this analogy would be that the anti-taxers think students whose parents earned good grades should automatically get a 4.0, regardless of their actual performance.
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