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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 01:10 PM
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New Apostolic Reformation Doesn't Want Theocracy, Just The Establishment Of God's Kingdom On Earth
Edited on Sat Aug-20-11 01:11 PM by Emit
NAR Doesn't Want Theocracy, Just The Establishment Of God's Kingdom On Earth


It appears as if C. Peter Wagner is not very happy with the recent attention and criticism his New Apostolic Reformation has been receiving and so he decided to send out a message in order to set the record straight.

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Dominionism. This refers to the desire that some of my friends and I have to follow Jesus and do what He wants. One of the things He does want He taught us to pray for in the Lord's Prayer (...)

But where does dominion come in? On the first page of the Bible, God told Adam and Eve to "fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, etc." (Genesis 1:28). Adam, Eve, and the whole human race were to take dominion over the rest of creation, but Satan entered the picture, succeeded in usurping Adam's dominion for himself and became what Jesus calls "the ruler of this world" (John 14:30). When Jesus came, he brought the kingdom of God and He expects His kingdom-minded people to take whatever action is needed to push back the long-standing kingdom of Satan and bring the peace and prosperity of His kingdom here on earth. This is what we mean by dominionism.

A theocracy. The usual meaning of theocracy is that a nation is run by authorized representatives of the church or its functional religious equivalent. Everyone I know in NAR would absolutely reject this idea, thinking back to Constantine's failed experiment or some of the oppressive Islamic governments today. The way to achieve dominion is not to become "America's Taliban," but rather to have kingdom-minded people in every one of the Seven Mountains: Religion, Family, Education, Government, Media, Arts & Entertainment, and Business so that they can use their influence to create an environment in which the blessings and prosperity of the Kingdom of God can permeate all areas of society.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/NAR-doesnt-want-theocracy
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 01:14 PM
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1. Aren't they the same thing?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 01:33 PM
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5. Why, yes. Yes they are.
But just try telling that to a whacko fundie xian.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 01:15 PM
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2. ....


(the 'You' is Wagner in this case)
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 01:19 PM
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3. Sounds like Wagner has been going to some ALEC conventions...
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 01:28 PM
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4. This is one of the things I do not understand
He talks of a loving god that created everything
He then goes on to talk about how Satan took over.
God created Satan. So how can these people attack a creation of their god??
If their god did not want Satan to be there he would not have put him there.

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Owlet Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 02:10 PM
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6. So Satan is the King of the World?
I never knew that! No wonder my tomatoes have Late Blight.
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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 02:23 PM
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7. Perry is close buds with the NAR. He's one of the anointed. nt
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