Stick it to FOX

[kpete]

Fri Aug 19, 2011 at 07:40 PM PDT
Stick it to FOX

by plok

Well I'm very tired and I'm not a very good writer when I'm like this but I have something I'd like to share. On several occasions this past year I have told people that I give money to that I do not appreciate FOX being on their TV's. I started this about 6 years ago when I went into a Firestone shop to set up an account for servicing a fleet of trucks. I told them if I ever saw FOX on their TV in the lobby I would pull my account. And it worked. Dozens of times I went into this shop and not once did I have to see FOX.



Here are more:

Tonight I went into a pizza joint that I have been going to for over 25 years. It's managed by Mexicans who I have been friendly with for many years. And for the first time there was FOX in the TV. I told her my order and I half joking told her to turn the FOX off. And just I said this FOX did a story about Mexican immigration, with lots of images of scary Mexicans jumping over walls. I said "SEE? FOX does not want you here running this pizza joint!" And I said it loud enough that the obvious FOX fans could hear me.

This young woman had probably never thought about the politics of her TV programming before, but she does now. At least I hope so. I will be back, and I will bring it up again. And shortly after that FOX did a story titled "Obama want to spend stimulus money even though it will crash the stock market"



A few weeks ago I stayed in a Sleep Inn which had FOX and Wall Street journals. For breakfast my kids had to hear a graphic story about that Jewish boy being hacked to bits. Shortly after, I had to watch a talking head berate Lahood while he kissed FOX's ass. For breakfast! I complained to the checkout dude. So the following evening (on a road trip) I told my wife we were checking the lobby TV's before we rented a room. And we chose Hilton Garden Inn. No FOX. No Wall Street Journals. It was pricey though, but I slept well.

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MORE:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/19/1008822/-Stick-it-to-FOX?via=siderec

[Sarah Ibarruri]

1. This is going to sound crazy, but when I lived in Miami I belonged to a gym that had TVs everywhere

This is a gym that is found nationwide, and whose name I will not mention.

Anyway, I noticed that most of them were switched to FOX News, which right away pissed me off. I asked the management to please switch the news to another channel, or to something that wasn't news, cooking, whatever, even sports. (ew!) They didn't.

And so it was that I wrote the corporate headquarters a letter complaining. I told them that I was insulted they would be broadcasting propaganda at a gym I was PAYING FOR, and that if the stations were not changed so that I did not have to listen to propaganda, I would leave and ask for my money back.

I heard nothing.

Then about 3 weeks later, all the stations were changed. Some were on cooking shows (recumbent bikes), the bar bell area was on sports, and others were on cartoons LOL!

I did notice that the local management looked at me whenever I walked in and no longer said hello, so that told me pretty much where they stood on FOX NEWS and Republicanist shit.

:-)

[Hepburn]

2. I quit going to a car wash because of Faux Noise.

I asked them twice ~~ two different visits ~~ and told them if I came again and that "shit" was on in the customer lounge, I was gone and taking people with me.

Soooooooo...the third time was the charm. And...I found a car wash that does a far better job at about the same price and NO Faux Noise! My pals now use the same car wash.

:hi:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

25. GREAT! Now all you need to do ...

is write the owners of the other car wash and tell them what you told us!

[Proles]

4. Hah. I frequented a gym a while back with my family,

my dad noticed Fox on the TV, so he changed it to something else. A few minutes later, some old guy comes in and changes the channel to Fox and asks if that's okay with him. My dad just said if he wanted to watch that crap it was up to him. The guy angrily answered "thank you."

Then some other time we went, my dad was on another machine. Yet again, Fox was on the TV above him. Thinking no one was watching, he changes it to something else. Then out of nowhere, some middle age guy yells, "Hey, I was watching that!" I guess my dad didn't want to bother argueing, so he just changed it back. I think he later went to the gym desk to casually bring up that Fox news was on a lot of their TV's, but I cannot remember exactly what they said.

I don't know what it is about Fox that makes people so transfixed. It's almost like a drug addicition to some people. I definitely endorse telling people to turn off that propaganda, or avoid places that refuse to do so.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

26. Your dad sounds awesome!

Unfortunately, there's no shortage of a-holes out there watching Fox News, and they come in all ages, young, old, etc.

[Proles]

28. Lol, well I guess if it weren't for both my parents

I wouldn't have had the political views I have now.

But I agree. I used to think that Fox news was just sustained by old, angry people. Problem is it's not just them, but all angry and fearful people in general.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

29. That's it! It's the station for angry and fearful people. nt

[66 dmhlt]

52. But there's a damn good reason why folks believe Fox ...

[DeeDeeNY]

54. LOL

That basically sums it up. :rofl:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

55. ahahaha! Yes indeed! nt

[oldhippydude]

37. actually

i was truly surprised.. there is a cafeteria chain i frequent, unlike a lot of folks i believe in tipping, so that may have something to do with it.. one day i noticed that the tv set was set for fox..i told the cashier there that if i ever quit showing up it was because they had fox on... she said she would refer it to management.. the next day no fox, nor has there been a retune in almost a year..

i realize that this isn't typical... but its sure better than not trying..

[KansDem]

6. I once belonged to a local YMCA fitness center

I'd go early in the morning to work out on the treadmills, weights, and bikes (whenever I could find one free!). One morning I was by myself on a treadmill. A man walked into the room to get on the one next to me and he asked if he could turn on the TV (it was off at that point). I said, "Sure, go ahead," and with a smile I said, "Just don't turn it on to FOX News!"

He muttered something while walking over to the TV...and turned on FOX News!

I dropped my membership soon after (not because of this one incident--I just didn't like the layout of the facilities, plus, I could hardly find an open bike). I did notice one morning as I was parking in the lot, someone had a "Rush Limbaugh" license plate frame on their car--not a bumper sticker, but a metal frame.

I figured I was exercising with the wrong crowd...

[Sarah Ibarruri]

27. Right wingholes are transfixed to Fox News. nt

[SpiralHawk]

3. Excellent idea. Speak up against Spew (R).

Keep America clean. Tell your local businesses to hold the propaganda spewage and to play a neutral channnel for news!!!

This should go viral.

[Enthusiast]

35. "Speak up against Spew!"

Right on!

[Cirque du So-What]

5. I stopped going to an oil-change place over FAUX News

The TV was blasting like a mighty RW Wurlitzer and I complained to the fellow behind the service counter, who happened to be the owner. Without a hint of irony, he stated that FAUX was the only place he could get 'the truth,' so he refused to change the channel. I informed him that I would not patronize his business - and that's the truth (told him after I got my car back, of course).

[femrap]

7. I'm with you....

Don't give $$$ to people that are behaving against your morals.

[randr]

8. The appearence of faux on so many public TVs raises a question

Quite a while back I read that faux had given TV sets to all the McDonald's locations. I now wonder how many public facilities have gotten the same offers and if so if they are required to display faux.
If this is the case does faux include the estimated numbers of people who "could" be watching in their audience count? Could this be the method that Murdock uses to ramp up his ratings?
I have always been suspicious of the ratings game and if the public TV sets are part of the equation we have a serious problem with public perception of actual viewer numbers.

[SalviaBlue]

9. I stayed at a hotel that had the tv set to come on tuned to FOX.

No matter what channel it was on when you turned it off, it would be on FOX when you turned it on.

I'm pretty sure Fox paid for that feature.

[cyberpj]

57. Wow. I was not surprised to hear of the giveaways -- just surprised it hadn't occurred to me before

since I've noticed FOX on TVs in so many places I frequent --from sub shops and pizza joints to doctor and dentist offices.

I remember thinking, wow -- do these people ALL really like Fox News?! Now I wonder. But, even if they don't all like Fox News..... there's some amount of brainwashing going on with people who hear it all day long --not to mention the customers and clients.

Thanks for the wakeup call. Now I intend to fight back.

[WhiteTara]

10. I found out on my last drive through the mid country

that Fox pays for the cable or satellite if they keep the station of fox. I have walked out of places where this is and have told the managers each time that I will not patronize a store or gas station that promotes hate speech tv.

[mnhtnbb]

14. Wow. Never heard that before. That is disgusting.

[WhiteTara]

23. Yes, middle Amerkica is completely

owned by the Reich Wing.

[azul]

11. And get the word back to foxed advertisers.

Let them know that their product and reputation is tainted by association with these foreign criminal liars.

[Psycholitics]

12. F. Scott Fitzgerald said...

"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function."

Public debate (and therefore, democracy, America, and the world) are better served if we are capable of listening to ideas we do not agree with.

Those with differing views need not be our enemy.

[annabanana]

16. I find that blatant, out and out lies are bad for my blood pressure.

I don't mind well argued opposing views.

[daleanime]

22. You seem slightly confused....

Faux news isn't an 'idea', it's an aggressively perused corporate mindset. I'm always willing to listen and talk with some one who's views are different then mine. But I feel no need to do any thing that enables that greed machine.O8)

[WhiteTara]

24. No. They don't need to be our enemy

But they insist.

[Leftist Agitator]

I will counter your pithy quote with one of my own favorites...

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts."

-Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Differing views, ideas, call them what you will are OK. Blatantly lying about every factual matter under the sun is not.

[mod mom]

44. Perfect response!

[pacalo]

33. Good grief, we're talking about a contrived "news" network that goes against that very principle.

Propaganda is never acceptable to those with first-rate intelligence.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

36. Ah, I get it. Fox news good, Jon Stewart bad.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1779028#1779512

[mod mom]

43. It's misinformation at best and outright lies,as opposed to an "opposed idea"

[Le Taz Hot]

47. As someone much smarter than I said:

"You are allowed your own opinions. You are not allowed your own facts." The "you" here is referring to Faux Nooz. Their sole function is to act as a propaganda machine for the reich wing. Propaganda, by definition, is not truth and it certainly is not "news."

On edit: The quote was from Daniel Moynihan. (Thanks to the DUer above who supplied the originator.) :hi:

[Hissyspit]

51. Fox News is not opposing views. It is mostly deliberate lies and bigotry.

In other words, garbage. Not reporting, scholarship or legitimate debate. Just garbage and hate.

[Bandit]

53. I don't think you understand the meaning of propaganda

Having different ideas is a good thing. Spreading LIES to demean those with opposing ideas is propaganda..You sound like you believe "Scientific theory" is the same as layman's idea of "theory". Just a different "idea".....It is not....A hypothesis is an idea that needs testing over and over again. Once the hypothesis has been proved to a point of no contention it becomes "Scientific Theory" or In other words a Fact

[mnhtnbb]

13. I went into my bank branch one day and found FOX on their TV.

Wrote a letter to president of the Bank and I've never seen FOX again
on the TV when I go into the bank.

[Tunkamerica]

39. I have never seen a tv in a bank before.

and it's ironic that we're 15 minutes from each other.

[bhikkhu]

15. That's an excellent policy - and thanks for the good work!

I haven't watched TV for many years, but it reminds me of a time I needed some pool chemicals, coincidentally at the same time as the worst Iraqi "shock and awe" campaign. Walmart is the place in town that has most of that stuff, but as I walked in it was eerie - everyone was gazing up at the tv's they have hanging here and there' and FOX was on - reporters all breathless and excited talking about all the bombs and destruction and fires, showing clip after clip of cruise missile strikes. It wasn't so much that they were covering the news, it was that they were really getting off on it...I walked back out, sick to my stomach, and haven't shopped at a Walmart since.

[azul]

18. That is a picture that messes with my little mind.

I don't know whether to thank you for that or not. It is an image that just about tells the whole story of 9/11/01 though, and some artist should immortalize it for posterity.

[Zax2me]

17. So, you paid for a pricey hotel - because of lobby tv channels?

The most you see that tv is a few seconds.

Must be nice to be in such a...financial position, to do so.

I just leave the room tv channel on MSNBC when I leave.
Best I can afford!

[abq e streeter]

19. I complained and threatened to withdraw my money from the bank who's branch I use.

Yeah, I know, it should be in a credit union etc , but it's convenient and the people are really nice, friendly and helpful...I just complained to one of the people there, not management or anything ,but Faux wasn't there the next time and hasn't ever been again.We all need to step up and do this. It's a small thing, but little by little it gets the message across and helps stand up to the attempt to legitimize lies and hate.

[Shagbark Hickory]

20. This thread is living proof that politics and customers DO NOT MIX!

Let this be a lesson to anyone with a waiting room! And this includes other channels that could be perceived as taking one position over the other.

[jimmyzvoice]

21. "Turn Off Fox on public TV sets" is an activist campaign in which we can all participate

"kpete" has given us the crux of a terrific idea. Although it may not always work, most businesses do not want to offend customers and will comply.

What we all need to do is speak out whenever we see Fox News on a television located for public viewing. Just be polite. If it seems necessary, point out that you are offended. Ask that they change the station to something more neutral. There is no need to be abusive, create an argument or get your own blood pressure up.

In one case I made this request in my eye doctor's office and ever since I've noticed they are playing National Geographic videos. I made the same request at my automobile dealership (this time in an e-mail) and find that they've switched to the local cable news station.

It works. All of us just need to speak up whenever we see it. This will have an effect.

[russspeakeasy]

30. Mr. President....Fox called, they said "keep up the good work".

:evilgrin:

[Historic NY]

31. I changed the TEE-VEE a couple weeks ago at a Baymont hotel...

just got up and changed the channel for the local weather .... next time I'm going to hide the clicker when I find a hotel lobby with FAUX on.

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[Enthusiast]

34. Tell the President and congressional

Democrats that you do not appreciate them giving interviews to Fox News. Giving interviews on Fox only lends them credibility and respect when they deserve none.

[pam4water]

38. It on in every McDonald's I've been in :( I got a peanut sized bladder. I have to stop a lot. :P

[Tunkamerica]

40. I've never seen a tv in a mcdonald's

or a bank

[pam4water]

41. Really? I've seem more the ones at rest stops, but also in that big chain of truck stops that have

the convenience stop shower and subways usually. The TVs are in the McD part. You should see the looks on the faces of the trucker at watch them. They are believing every word of it. I can't remember the name the chain :(

Edit googled it -- Pilot Travel Centers

There is a chain of banks opening up in side the super dupper sized Walmarts - Woodforest National Bank. They leave the TVs on even with the bank is closed. And the bank isn't glassed in.

[Tunkamerica]

59. yeah okay. That makes sense. I rarely eat at those "fuel centers".

[KharmaTrain]

42. Slingbox - Road Savior...

Since most hotels/motels still don't carry MSNBC I bring mine along...along with Current, RT Today and anything else on my home teevee...including the DVR.

All you need is a laptop and connection to a high speed line and you're good to go...no more need to put up with inferior hotel teevee. Also works great for kids at college...for my son it's his lifeline...

[Fla Dem]

45. Called for Jury Duty in a very RW county

The large room where all potential jurors had to wait had 2 large flat screen TV's mounted on either side of the room, both tuned to fox. After about an hour I couldn't take it any more so went to the clerk and asked if the TV's could be changed to another channel. She asked me why and I said, "If I have to sit hear all day fulfilling my civic duty, I do not want to be indoctrinated with the RW junk on fox." She gave ne a disgusted look and said she would have to check. About 15 minutes later both sets changed to CNN.

[AnnieK401]

46. Boycotting a local sandwich shop because of Fox

Last yr. a new chain sandwich shop (not Subway) opened near my house. I went in and had already placed my order when I noticed that Fox was on both of the TV's in the shop. I was getting the order to go, so I just picked it up and left. I contacted their customer service dept. and complained, saying I would not be back. I got an e-mail back explaining that they had their TV's turned to cable news and I could request that one be turned to another station. I even got an e-mail from the manager inviting me to call him, I just sent an e-mail back. I have only been back once since then, Fox was on one of the TV's. I will not be back.

[jumptheshadow]

48. Airports

I've noticed that Fox plays at a lot of airports.

It used to play continuously at a newspaper and magazine shop in Grand Central. I don't know if it still does. I buy a lot of newspapers and magazines but avoid that shop now.

[southernyankeebelle]

49. Funny you should say that. Go to doctors offices and you will

find their tv on Fox station all the time. Yesterday my husband had a appointment with a new doctor. Their tv was set to Fox News. I asked the woman if she could turn it to a neutral station and she said she couldn't because her boss won't allow the channel to be changed. So we had to sit there. When we saw the doctor he was very nice but I told him I didn't like Fox and if it hadn't been an emergency we would have found another doctor. He was in the net and we had to use him. By the way he had dead animals around his offices. You knew he was a bagger but my husband said well am not here to talk politics. He seems to be a decent doctor.

I do make it a habit when I go into doctors offices waiting room to change the channel. Usually I ask if people are there.

[FlaGranny]

56. Dead animals around his office????

What do you mean?

[McCamy Taylor]

50. The one time I watched Fox was in an airport. The guest said Kerry was responsible for the illegal

incursion into Laos during the Vietnam War and the host just nodded his head.

[stuffmatters]

58. U S Military bases

I read somewhere that Fox News dominates screens at U.S. military bases around the world. That's pretty horrifying on so many levels if it's true.

[mikesm]

60. This will help deal with Fox - FCC kills fairness doctrine today

Just as promised, Obama's FCC Chairman enthusiastically has killed off the fairness doctrine.

"Genachowski said in a statement that the move was aimed at promoting “a healthy climate for private investment and job creation.”


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61851.html

[Texas-Limerick]

61. Limerick

She hated Hannity and O'Reilly so we fought
her attempt to change channel came to naught
it's not hell thrown sleaze
but a cool fresh breeze
when Fox blows back my every thought

[newspeak]

62. well, when you have a network who basically fires a newscaster

because she refuses to lie and the network wins the case because the judge rules that a network can lie to their audience, then I think we got a problem with media. Now, I realize people make mistakes, but when you make numerous mistakes by putting a (D) on a congresscritters name who is in trouble and that congresscritter is actually (R); then I think the network believes most of their audience are dupes or stupid.

They apparently pander to their audiences' preconceived ignorant or bigoted ideas while they throw in their pro-corporate, bad government shite. So, how many times have they put a (d) by the name of a repug who was in trouble? Let's see there's Craig, and Foley (numerous times) and I believe they even put a (d) by the name of McCain once when they were bad mouthing one of their own.

Murdoch, to me, became a US citizen so he could have multiple media and since then, I think he has done nothing but divide the people and "catapult" the corporate propaganda. Divide and conquer for the global corporations NWO. They don't need no stinking countries.