"Are politics as usual working for you?" - IMHO, these people are dangerous

[hootinholler]

Americans Elect asks the question on their website. They are claiming to run a directly nominated third candidate in the 2012 contest. A slick website promising a populist movement.

Well it's bullshit. Granted it's some really high grade bullshit, the kind you let season in the summer in a pile, not washed into some holding pond to be pumped onto fields later. You know what Dick Armey did with Tea Bagger Central? Well think of a tea party that can spell. They appear to be going after reasonable people who maybe don't pay attention to details.

There's a lot to be digested about this group, but, essentially it was founded with hedge fund money and is advised by rostrum of conservative players. That those guys from places like the Council on Foreign Relations, the Progressive Policy Institute, a litany of lobbying firms, and at least one with high connections into the intelligence community, are working towards anything that would help John Q is simply beyond my comprehension.

We need to spread the word on this. This is the path to a wingnut president, and those people know it, I daresay they are banking on it.

-Hoot

[Cool Logic]

1. "I daresay they are banking on it."

Indeed, they are...but they do not need a new party.

http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpicture/topcontribs.php

[OHdem10]

2. What about Democracy?? of the people, by the people,

and for the people.

If they were to be trusted, they would
instead be out there telling us what is
wrong with Dems and Repubs, not trying
to sneak in some candidate of their picking.

They are probably moderate Republicans
who do not have the guts to stand up to
their own party.

[Ozymanithrax]

3. So use them...

Get as many people as you can to go into the group. Push them to move to the left.

We don't have to vote for who they want, but we can use them to get our opinons out in the market place of opinion.

[JHB]

4. Or just maybe get them involved instead in their local and state Democratic parties...

...and not leaving them to the "professionals", who will of course do "politics as usual".

[OHdem10]

5. Do you think you can push Mark McKinnon,(GWB Pol. Cons)

Evan Bahy to the Left.

[Ozymanithrax]

6. I think we can use what they created as an instrument for our benefit.

The Teaparty has taken control of the Republican Party and instituted a far right fringe movement that the old Corporate Conservatives fear.

That is why the leadership of the Democratic party has morphed into what was once the Corporate Conservative wing of the Republican Party. The third way, DLC, and others are the old New England business friendly social liberal fiscal Conservatives Rockefeller Republicans.

This leaves those of us on the left in the lurch. We can go through the painful process of retaking the Democratic party, which will probably require the Democratic part to lose power to the Republicans. temporarily. (There are consequences to any action) Or, we can find somewhere else to go. That also has consequences.

[Johnyawl]

7. This is the republicans stealth ploy to win the presidency in 2012...

...get the "reasonable people who maybe don't pay attention to details" to vote for someone other then Obama.
The tea bagging republicans are so far out in right field that they cannot hope to attract enough moderate/independent voters to win. So they are creating this "grass roots" "non-partisan" alternative to siphon off the moderate/independents, the reasonable people who maybe don't pay attention to details into a third party, thereby allowing the republicans to win with 30-35% of the popular vote. Mark my words, most of their effort and money will be spent in states where they can take electoral college votes away from Obama.

[hootinholler]

8. That's what I smell...

But others here not so much.

-Hoot