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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 09:08 PM
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Electrically altered gene expression, old genes are new again
Edited on Sat Aug-13-11 09:33 PM by HysteryDiagnosis
Why don't we hear about it? Because either this is bs or some very powerful interests are in play.... OR they are just selling a book and none of this is real.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i69p0lldbGY

http://www.jopejob.de/der-uhrzeit-code/the-primeval-code-%E2%80%93-the-ecological-alternative-to-controversial-genetic-engineering/

Indeed, Guido Ebner and Heinz Schürch appear to have discovered a biological method of effectively creating antecedents from progeny – without using genetic engineering. Or as both researchers put it: “Our experiments do not involve a mutation of the organism in question, which in the case of genetic engineering involves channelling an additional gene into the organism. No entirely new organism is created. In the electrostatic field, only the gene expression is altered – the retrieval of the existing gene. That is something different.”

In addition to corn and trout experiments, the results of experiments with wheat were also amazing: thus the cereal exposed to the electrostatic field developed new proteins, which people looked for in the original wheat to no avail. Furthermore, it surprisingly produced much larger roots than the control group. This had the advantage of allowing the crops to grow far more rapidly. And occasionally in these experiments, a variant emerged which resembled the genetic antecedents of the wheat. Thus, a meadow grass-like arrangement of ear shoots and small narrow leaves was observed, for example.

“In the case of our ‘manipulated’ wheat, growth was so rapid that it was ripe in four weeks instead of the usual seven months”, Heinz Schürch recalled. “However one has to say that although the ears and stalks were somewhat smaller, there were more ears per plant. The actual benefit is that we could cultivate this wheat in regions where spring and summer are short – where conventional wheat cannot be grown at all.” In this case, one can also cheerfully refrain from using pesticides and herbicides: “The pests that have adapted to the growth process of normal wheat have not yet developed when we harvest our wheat as early as four to eight weeks after planting.”

The Third World in particular could benefit from this method of cultivation that is both environmentally friendly and inexpensive. For “primeval cereals” from an electric field yield more than modern genetically engineered varieties and do not require fertilisers. Furthermore, it is completely natural and thus healthier. It can be grown by anybody at minimal cost.

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 09:11 PM
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1. .
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 09:12 PM
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2. Yes yes yes.... crazy... until you see it listed on your box of wheaties.
Edited on Sat Aug-13-11 09:19 PM by HysteryDiagnosis
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 09:33 PM
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3. Very intriguing.
Thanks for posting this. I would have missed it otherwise.

For the scientifically curious, here's more from the article linked to in the OP.

The “Primeval Code” – the ecological alternative to controversial genetic engineering!

Can the global food problem at last be solved – without using genetic engineering? In his new book the “Primeval Code” (Munich 2007) Swiss journalist Luc Bürgin unveils the secret of a sensational biological discovery at the pharmaceutical giant Ciba (now Novartis), which unfortunately has been ignored by the experts up to the present day. In laboratory experiments the researchers there Dr. Guido Ebner and Heinz Schürch exposed cereal seeds and fish eggs to an “electrostatic field” – in other words, to a high voltage field, in which no current flows.

Unexpectedly primeval organisms grew out of these seeds and eggs: a fern that no botanist was able to identify; primeval corn with up to twelve ears per stalk; wheat that was ready to be harvested in just four to six weeks. And giant trout, extinct in Europe for 130 years, with so-called salmon hooks. It was as if these organisms accessed their own genetic memories on command in the electric field, a phenomenon, which the English biochemist, Rupert Sheldrake, for instance believes is possible.

The Swiss pharmaceutical group patented the process – and then stopped the research in 1992. Why? Because “primeval cereals” generated by an electric field, in contrast to modern strains of seeds, require hardly any fertilisers or pesticides – i.e. crop protection agents, sold as priority products by Ciba at that time. The discovery was soon forgotten, without the global scientific community taking any notice.

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..... many scientists who think along conventional lines may remain sceptical about this inexplicable biological effect. But now for the first time, renowned German expert botanists such as Professor Edgar Wagner of the University of Freiburg and Professor Gunter Rothe from the University of Mainz make positive statements about it in the book. Rothe even had replicated the Ciba experiments in detail at his university in 2001 – and was successful. And also for the first time, even a Nobel laureate – the world-famous Swiss microbiologist Werner Arber – is taking up the cudgels for this controversial discovery. Back then, Arber had given an expert opinion on the Ciba experiments in person in the laboratory. The professor said to the author: “I was impressed!”


http://www.jopejob.de/der-uhrzeit-code/the-primeval-code-%E2%80%93-the-ecological-alternative-to-controversial-genetic-engineering/


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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 11:30 PM
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5. Delete.
Edited on Sat Aug-13-11 11:31 PM by roamer65
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 10:09 PM
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4. How, exactly, is the seed treated? What sort of an electrical field
needs to be generated, and can an individual set up something to treat seed?
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 11:33 PM
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6. This is really makes me quite apprehensive.
Edited on Sat Aug-13-11 11:33 PM by roamer65
If we try to "turn on" inactivated genes that have been inherited from evolutionary predecessors, are we sure we are going to be pleased with the results?

This really could turn out to be a "Pandora's Box".
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