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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:14 PM Original message |
Forbes - "Wisconsin Voters To Unions - 'We're Just Not That Into You'" - Did the Left Stay Home? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. The turnout yesterday was through the roof from all reports. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. For pity's sake, we're talking about gerrymandered Republican strongholds. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yep. Apparently attacking the left is more imporant than celebrating its victories. n/t |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. It's a pattern here on DU. |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. There is more than one type of voter suppression. Dispair has worked in the past. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Not recognizing real hardwon victories also works. n/t |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. I have been recognizing the real hardwon victory of the WI recalls |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. WI Democrats did an awesome job! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. DU authoritarians untie! |
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Cosmocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
48. I have had my fill of this shitte ... |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. Forbes, Fox Business, and CNBC: don't listen to them. |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Exactly, Yet On DU Some Folks Post Links To GOP Attack Ads |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. There was NO failure to turn out in this instance |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Well, then who are these folks on DU who proudly talk about how they will stay home... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Your assumptions about the future are not facts about the past. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. Nice propagsnda |
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Broderick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
6. The unions spent 30 plus million I read |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Are you kidding me? It was reported that $30 million was SPENT... |
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Broderick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. It's in print. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Do you have a link that states the Unions unilaterally spent $30 million? |
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Broderick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. In hindsight yes |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Please explain why you think one or more seats will be lost next week... |
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Broderick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Heck next week the net gain might be zero for that matter. |
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DUanonymous (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Somebody Actually Figured It Out |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 10:44 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Right leaning independent. That explains it. |
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milwaukeelib33 (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
57. Here's a link |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. I'd be shocked if the unions weren't grossly outspent by Koch puppets. |
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Broderick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. But the point being |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Walker's actions have divided the state, not the recalls themselves. |
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Broderick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Not asking you or anyone to regret efforts |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. The fact of the matter is that the "Left" in this country is decimated... |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. +1 |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
51. Actually that is what will get the final counter reaction |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. very likely, and nearly as scary |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
60. Odds are the Far Right will lock in its power during the rest of my life... |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
54. The ony thing respected in the USA is MONEY, and the left lacks $ nt |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. One of the lessons I learned in my days of activism 40-50 yrs ago -- |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. It's bullshit noise from the right... |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
10. When you try and fail (sort of) . . . |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Our "good friends" at Forbes also think the "new normal" is |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
11. I have been thinking about the results |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. If you're whacking DU..The answer ius that there has been unanimous support for Wis. Dems here |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
16. Geez, could Forbes be any more blatant? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
22. You're doing what you accuse others of. You're posting RW crap against the left. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. Good point - I have to wonder about the motivation of anyone |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
26. I heard they're still deciding elections up there with a lap top. . |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
29. The trolls have been out in full force today with two memes, All is Lost, and |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
33. It is utter BS to accuse Wisconsin of sitting on their hands. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. All their work will pay off down the line, energy cannot be destroyed says Einstein! nt |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
34. The Forbes article is (shockingly) disingenuous. |
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GusBob (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
35. Of course they are not into the middle class and people who work |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
38. Forbes is a sellout garbage rag like the NYT or the WSJ. |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
41. That's their spin. Mine is that Dems had an historic victory, TAKING TWO REPUBLICAN SEATS... |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. That was my thought too. . . Funny how they are spinning this like it's a republican victory. |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Part of it is there are too many Democrats who are disappointed... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. That is what I will always remember...we took two seats away from |
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pissed in WI (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
43. voter turnout is not the problem |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
46. it was PROGRESSIVES who even got this off the ground in Wisconsin |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
47. I think it's a case of "my team v your team" for many "low-information" voters |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
49. There are two less Rethugs in heavily Republican districts |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
61. neeme-nyim-nyum |
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