To the whiner in chief -We need you to get mad and stand up for us.

[kpete]

MON AUG 08, 2011 AT 11:59 AM PDT
The whiner in chief
bymsopine

.......... - - get over yourself already! There is never going to be the political will in Washington to do all the things you promised in your campaign, and the Republicans are never going to play nice no matter how many pretty, shiny objects you give them. In the immortal words of George Bush the First, "READ MY LIPS - No political will, no nice Republicans".

So would you please stop whining about what isn't and start trying to get a grip on what is? You are a smart, capable, thoughtful man who should be able to figure out that when one approach isn't working, you try something else. In fact, I believe it was you during your campaign who repeatedly pronounced that only a fool would keep doing the same wrong thing and expect different results.

You've been reasonable, you've been conciliatory, you've compromised and you've kept your composure. Not only hasn't it worked, your "can't we all just get along" philosophy has put this country in worse financial peril than ever before. It is long past time for you to stop regretfully bemoaning the lack of civility in Washington and become one of the uncivil. Oh, I don't mean calling names, denigrating birthrights, or questioning love of country and god. That level of incivility is best left to the Republicans. I mean the kind of uncivil that allows you to take a position that is diametrically opposed to the Republican position and then actually sticking to it. I'm talking about defining your own agenda instead of always acting and reacting to the agenda set by the Republicans. In short I'm begging for the kind of uncivil that makes you a leader instead of a negotiator, and I mean this in the most positive way, a piss-poor negotiator at that.

We don't need your sorrowful analysis after each failed policy debacle. We need you to get mad and stand up for yourself. Well, that's not quite right. We need you to get mad and stand up for us.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/08/1004558/-The-whiner-in-chief?via=siderec

[DFab420]

1. unrec for insulting the president. I've never heard him whine. Only people on blogs

[Born Free]

8. I voted for Obama both in the primary and general election...

However, these days I wished we had chosen Hillary Clinton , I believe she would have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the GOP on behalf of the middle class. Almost ever day I grow more disappointed with Obama and his lack of will to fight. He allows the GOP to walk all over him and then cries about it afterwards, I can not help but wonder if there is a point where l he will stand up for America.

ON Edit: Please, Al Gore, Hillary Clinton , any good democrat, please challenge Obama in the primary, give us a chance to change course, Obama may be a nice guy but he is no leader

[Liquorice]

17. I supported Hillary because I knew she would go to war with republicans

and do everything possible to get a democratic agenda through. Obama is not a fighter and he never has been.

During the primaries, Obama supporters would argue with me that Obama would change the tone in Washington and have republicans and democrats working together in a post-partisan fantasy land. I was shocked that so many democrats believed that fairy tale. It was horrifying to see otherwise rational democrats telling me that Bill and Hillary Clinton were the reason the 90's were so politically polarized, instead of the republicans who forced gov't shutdowns and investigated Bill Clinton for 8 years.

During the primaries, Hillary Clinton argued that you couldn't negotiate with republicans and you had to battle them. She said Obama would try to negotiate and they would whittle away all of the democratic demands until we were left with nothing. She was right. The truth is that republicans don't work with democratic presidents. They only work to destroy them. It was like democrats had developed amnesia and forgot what republicans were all about. And they had the nerve to call me a low-information voter. Hmph.

This situation with Obama was not hard to predict, and democrats shouldn't be surprised at how things are turning out. You are very honest to say you realize now that Hillary was a better candidate. Many democrats refuse to acknowledge it.

[pengillian101]

85. + 1,000! n/t

[LBJDemocrat]

105. I also regret not voting for Hillary.

I should've known better. She would've been more likely to fight to put her campaign platform into law - even if the platform, and of course the branding and image, was slightly more right-wing.

[MrScorpio]

158. Yep. The grass IS always greener... nt

[FedUp_Queer]

129. Indeed, Hillary has balls.

However, the policies would probably be the same.

[Peregrine Took]

142. "She a shark!" n/t

[JDPriestly]

147. But what would Hillary have battled for?

Essentially, Obama is following the same line that Bill and Hillary followed.

It leads nowhere as we now see.

Panetta among others is a Clinton man.

Hillary would be the same old, same old. We need a really fresh point of view.

[awoke_in_2003]

160. +1...

6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

[ohheckyeah]

163. Well said. n/t

[SusanaMontana41]

170. She would have gone to war with Iran, too.

Never supported her, but also never thought Obama would be milquetoast. Shame on me.

[oldlib]

18. That is my hope

that the Democratic party runs a true and proven Democrat against Obama. We need a Democratic president who has principals and convictions that supports our party. I had hope for Obama and he has been a disappointment. Not voting for him would elect a GOOP.

[bluestate10]

27. President Obama has a tendency to do big things at close to the right times.

I am not sure that President Obama is letting republicans walk over him as much as he is allowing republicans to crystallize how radical they are in voters eyes. Bin laden was warm and cozy before he got turned into fish food.

[RiseAsOne]

31. I hope you are right, but 3+ years haven't been kind to us despite our victories

[bluestate10]

44. When legislation depended upon the vote of Ben Nelson.

Democrats from January 2009 thru 2010 there were no victories. President Obama needs a super majority in the House and Senate like FDR had. Then people like Ben Nelson and blue dogs that vote with republicans at crunch time can be told to fuck off, we don't need their votes to enact progressive legislation. Now, my question to you and people that think like you is, will you sit at home this time around, or will you help democrats get those super majorities that FDR had?

[dionysus]

46. +1000

[mitchtv]

65. unfortunately we can do nothing to get this President

to stand up. Only he can do that and you don't need a supermajority to do that. You don't have to win every battle, but for heaven's sake. Stand up for something.

[Angry Dragon]

92. +1000

[Clear Blue Sky]

140. The unfortunate thing is that he had a fillibuster proof majority for almost 2 years.

[tridim]

154. Nope, it was about 50 days.

Franken wasn't seated immediately and Ted Kennedy died. No super-majority.

[SusanaMontana41]

171. Yes. He can stand for something. He hasn't meant anything he's said. n/t

[FedUp_Queer]

125. Excrement.

The point you obama toadies don't get is that the man is incapable of leading and he's not a liberal. He could have had unanimous majorities and we'd still have gotten what we got. He doesn't actually believe in liberal/progressive principles. He will fight for them because he's incapable and because he's not a believer in those policies.

[Enthusiast]

146. I won't sit at home.

I will vote AGAINST Obama. He is on the other side. This couldn't be more clear.

[MissDeeds]

161. You are so right

[FedUp_Queer]

126. Blah blah blah.

More "he's playing chess" drivel.

[dionysus]

40. cool story bro.

[Mimosa]

74. I was a BIG OBAMA supporter

And I attacked Hillary because I believed she would be conciliatory with Republicans. Her friendship with McCain made me suspicious.

Now, I can't help but wonder. :(

[OnyxCollie]

139. Hillary has some suspicious friendships.

[Enthusiast]

150. I won't vote for her either.

Isn't it clear by now they set us up?

Either Democratic candidate was going to save Wall Street and the Bush Administration from investigation. Either candidate was going to continue the wars. Either candidate was going to begin dismantling the New Deal. Those are just the facts.

[Raksha]

159. Sadly, I have to agree with you on all counts.

Re "Either Democratic candidate was going to save Wall Street and the Bush Administration from investigation. Either candidate was going to continue the wars. Either candidate was going to begin dismantling the New Deal. Those are just the facts."

We were given a choice between two corportist candidates...we were set up.

[cilla4progress]

89. Yes, the H word- Hillary -

right now I am so wishing we had elected her. I wonder what SHE is thinking now?

[tblue]

132. For the first time today I am kicking myself

Hillary saw clearly the "vast rightwing conspiracy," and she wouldn't pretend it's her friend. And Bill right behind her would help her withstand the heat as much as anybody. She would disappoint but I don't believe she'd devastate Kick kick kick. If only I'd known then what I know now. I supported the wrong man for the times.

[JDPriestly]

151. Hillary was a big supporter of the Iraq War.

Apparently you missed her ugly confrontation with the women of Code Pink. They courteously plead with her to oppose the war. She angrily refused. I would never vote for her after seeing that video.

It showed me the real Hillary. Not good.

I, too, fell for her appearance of being a person with empathy, She really isn't.

[kpete]

19. i do not mean to insult

i mean to PLEAD!
"FIGHT FOR US" Mr. President, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kpete

[russspeakeasy]

64. and for christs sake...don't let them (the thugs) set the narrative.

thanks kpete...

[abq e streeter]

29. So pointing out the obvious is now insulting the President? Doesn't speak too well of him, does it?

[DFab420]

32. Actually speaking hyperbolically out of your ass IS insulting the President

Calling him

Whiner in Chief
Obummer
President Giveitallaway


anything like that is insulting. And if you don't think it's insulting then that doesn't speak to well of you does it......

[Angry Dragon]

95. I have not seen any of those words used in this thread

care to point those words out to me??


edit: I see the whiner in chief used in the OP
no need to use those words
Obama can be disagreed with without slurring him

[kpete]

116. Angry Dragon

you are probably right,
peace, kpete

[HappyMe]

59. +1

Yup.

It's the one job that I would not want for any dollars in the world.
Apparently some here could do a better job! :eyes:

[roguevalley]

62. he's too busy evolving. Frankly, that's something else. when do

you have the right to 'evolve' and not do your job. As for the whining ... he's made it damned clear what he thinks about us.

[PonyJon]

83. He could darn well use the bully pulpit

to squarely blame Rethugs for the economic disaster that they have perpetrated on this country. He could plainly tell Americans that the 20% (or probably more) decline in the value of their 401ks and retirement investments in the last two weeks is the free markets opinion of the horeshit "austerity" and deficit reduction budget that the Dumbpublicans forced on him. He could use executive orders to put money into the hands of people that will HAVE to spend it (not Geithner's Wall St. bankers clique) and really put some stimulus into the works. He could tell people that because he was forced by the Rethugs congress to give Cry Baby Bohner 98% of what he wanted 98% of Americans are screwed. He could start listening to Phd'd economists instead of Geithner and that other GE jerk he appointed (what's his name?). Democrats are completely right to talk of dumping him. There is little time left for him to get right (left?) before the 2012 elections.

[LiberalLovinLug]

134. +1000

We all saw Obama's ability to move crowds with the magic of his oratory fortitude during the primaries. His brushing off the shoulders gesture. His (much criticized) statement that "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun".

He SOUNDED like a fighter. In fact he even sounded tougher than Hillary. That's what Democrats voted for...someone who would finally stand up to the Rethugs lies and corruption and call them out. Hillary seemed just a little too close to her "colleagues on the other side".

He is not, sadly, the transformative progressive leader many here had been fooled into believing in, but he is not particularly evil either, he is simply your standard opportunistic politician who holds no real deep seated principles. During those first few months when the RW racists, birthers, and other loonies were embarrassing themselves and America in general, his advisers advised him that this was the time he could steal some of the moderate/right votes to already start to set up his re-election by doing a 180 and do the opposite of all the things he was being accused daily on FOX News of being, even if it meant turning his back on his primary promises both real and implied.

Socialist?.....He states that the Public Option is not that important and scoffs at the idea of Single Payer. And lately offering up Medicare, Medicaid, and SS in his now almost expected negotiating strategy of offering more than he needs to at the get go.

Civil Libertarian?....Allow renewal of Patriot Act, arrest without warrants, wiretapping, and then go even further in giving carte blanche to the "dark side" as Cheney put it. And of course lets all just "look forward" instead of dealing with unprecedented lawlessness and War Crimes of the Bush regime

Peacenik?....Intensify the war with Afghanistan, not a quick final surge as was implied, but an unending strategy even after Bin Laden was found in Pakistan. And also keep a substantial amount of combat troops in Iraq (no matter what he calls them) and start a new war with Libya.

Anti-Capitalist?....Puts in charge the same people that got America into a meltdown and making sure that NO ONE at the top responsible for abusing the system that led to the crash is prosecuted or made to suffer in any way.

Anti-rich?....Let the Bush Tax cuts for the wealthy continue with no real fight.

Some appologists will say that for some of these he HAD to compromise to get what little he did. The point though is that he never even put up a fight! He could have used the bully pulpit to rally the American public on most of these issues to have his back. Then when the Rethugs demanded compromise, he could have held out longer and then at the very end threw THEM a small bone in order to save them a bit of face.

Obama is not even getting bones. Too bad because he needs one, right in the back.

[oldlib]

148. Obama is a politician by profession.

His goal is to be elected, and beyond that, he doesn't have the desire to lead, since he hasn't the convictions to stand for anything. He only thinks in terms of the next election, which at this time is the 2012 presidential election. I had great hopes for him, since he is the smartest man in the room, and has the ability, not the desire, to be a commanding Democratic president.

[LiberalLovinLug]

169. "the ability, not the desire"

how, regrettably, true.

[Bluebear]

88. High?

[Angry Dragon]

91. ............

:thumbsdown:

[seeker4ever]

100. Recc'd For Being Pro Democrat and Progressive

Teddy Roosevelt, not a fucking whiner. Obama? A fucking insider shill. Expecting this neoliberal to do anything truly commensurate with Progressive policy is insanity. He won't. He's owned, he lied to us get the job and is being paid handsomely for it and will be taken care of nicely when he's done helping destroy Progressive advancements and usher in the neoliberal agenda.

[Cosmocat]

107. unrec for subject line you would see in Freeper world ...

Seriously, do people here get that they are now more in line with the republican party than the democratic party?

The man is NOT perfect, but he IS a darn good president.

But, here in Democratic Underground, half the nitwits are standing in line with republican's putting bullets into the democratic president.

[FedUp_Queer]

133. Ok.

Booby, tell us what makes him a "darn good president.". Oh, I get...that's satire. You almost had me.

[Cosmocat]

135. Please tell me ...

I am not debating this in Democratic Underground.

He had the most significant legislative first two years in generations - he got HCR done, which presidents have tried and failed to do for nearly 50 years. He got finance reform done. He has dealt with his two security threats masterfully (the somolian pirates and OBL) and has been the best president in modern times on trying to secure our borders. His presidency staved off the largest loss of jobs since the great depression and a recession, and has us on a recovery - halting and sluglike as it may be.

Sad thing is, I just had to lay out to a fricken democrat, presumably, what I have laid out countless times to teabag types.

[FedUp_Queer]

141. I was afraid you'd just spew talking points.

Never mind.

[frylock]

144. the democratic party is now more in line with the republican party than the democratic party

[Cosmocat]

172. Horsehockey ...

The democratic party may not be as actively liberal/progressive as WE might like.

But, it is a FAR cry from where the republican party is. Just simple minded hyperbolic nonsense to say they are the same.

It is not even close, and this kind of simpering BS is what is going to let more republicans get elected than there should be.

BO is not NEAR as bad as the fringe wants to make him out to be at this point.

Time to get over the disappointment that he did not bring a progressive nirvana, get behind him and go after the real bad guys.

[Marcel]

118. Don't worry.

I recced that back.

[Le Taz Hot]

149. Rec. because I have a place in my heart for THE TRUTH

[MrMickeysMom]

157. I'll counter your rec and remind of what you can't figure out-

The most patriotic THING a blogger or person can DO at this point is to be absolutely clear in what they want a potential leader like Barack Obama to do.

Fuck anybody who see this as "insulting"... It's the BEST and more HONEST thing an American could do. We are all waiting for him to be the person he wanted to be anyway, and not a fucking whiner, which is exactly what he is now.

Put up.

[Vincardog]

2. Net recommendation: 0 votes (Your vote: +1)

[William769]

3. + 9 now. NT

[emilyg]

5. +12

[William769]

12. I'll see your 12 & raise you 11.

[bvar22]

13. +23 ^

Way beyond time to STAND UP and do the right thing,
and PLEASE, discontinue the MORE Free Trade thing.



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[donheld]

76. +85

[Bluebear]

94. +103

[nashville_brook]

121. +128

[peace frog]

137. +155

[OnyxCollie]

145. +167

[Recursion]

4. Your right! Obama appearing angry on television will solve things!

Republican Representatives and Senators will realize the error of their ways and stop blocking good legislation and passing bad legislation. The business community will start hiring on the faith that their hiring will increase demand. The Bush tax cuts will be repealed a year and a half ahead of schedule. The Federal deficit will disappear. Republican governors will stop busting unions. Americans will stop using illegal drugs. The Taliban will put down their weapons and forge a peaceful Democracy with the Tajiks and Turkmen. Netanyahu will stop building settlements in the West Bank. Large corporations will divest themselves of their media holdings, ushering in a new wave of responsible journalism and quality entertainment. Monsanto will withdraw their untested GMO crops. Aggrieved middle age marginally employed white males will stop resenting government policies that help minorities and women.

Just think... we could have all of these things, if only Barack Obama would get angry.

[Rageneau]

14. Hey, it couldn't hurt.

At least an angry Obama would be an Obama showing that he CARES for something.

[dionysus]

38. bullshit. then the same exact people would complain he's angry and irrational. it's a neverending

poutrage game.

[shellgame26]

53. Jesus Christ!

Is that what this is about? That he doesn't show enough emotion? PATHETIC!

[Recursion]

22. "You're", of course

Never type in a hurry.

[Angry Dragon]

96. Anger without facts is just anger

Anger with facts is a movement .........
Personally I would not mind having an angry black man on my side .......
An angry black man might just scare a lot of republicans because they are afraid of the blacks ........

Anger can be a much more powerful emotion than love ........ and they are opposites

[FedUp_Queer]

166. Ok...forget angry. How about actually fighting for something?

[Avalux]

6. Someone's a crybaby, and it's not Obama.

Instead of whining about Obama (as the author does) and making demands like a petulant child, why don't WE (collectively, as Americans) get up off our lazy asses and DO something?

We are all in this together and the slogan was "Yes we can" not "Yes he can, for us".

[Rageneau]

16. Yes, we CAN ... choose a new presidential candidate.

Obama wasn't installed by God. He was selected by the MSM and the naive, and the Clinton-haters.
There is NOTHING about him that cannot be satisfactorily replaced

[dionysus]

36. ROFL

thanks for the laugh.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[HappyMe]

61. Oh, do tell. Realistically, who? nt

[dionysus]

114. my money's on aquaman.

[Bluebear]

93. "like a petulant child!" --- wheee! Ponies! Poutrage!!

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[jannyk]

9. K&R!

[Bonhomme Richard]

10. If I only saw him put up a fight I would feel different n/t

[Recursion]

23. Clearly not, since he has, and you don't

Though you may have romantic ideas about what it means when a politician "fights".

[glinda]

11. Passive voice no longer works for me. He needs to get mad.

[Parker CA]

15. Not even mad, just assertive and direct with what he actually wants. Maybe some Democratic ideas for

a change! Lots of good ideas coming from the left. Form a plan, lay it out, and give a date by which he expects it to be done.

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[GOTV]

24. Who should we blame for Obama's actions?

[JanMichael]

48. A unicorn. nt.

[HappyMe]

63. Yeah. Oh hells yeah.

President Mittens.


Honestly. President Bug Eye MB. President Rick Perry.


Then, I guess, you will be happy.

[FedUp_Queer]

167. Ok...Riddle me this...

What would the differences be?

Libya? Toss up.

Somalia? Toss up.

Yemen? Toss up.

Lilly Ledbetter? Obama Yes, Mittens, probably no.

The little bit of financial reform we got? Obama, yes, Mittens, no.

Gitmo? Bagram? Afghanistan? Iraq? Too big to fail? Glass-Steagall? A health-care insurance mandate (a mittens idea)? Warrantless wireptapping? Indefinite detention? Whistleblower prosecutions? Drone attacks? Geithner, Summers and Rubin? No prosecutions of George Bush, et al.?

"It could be worse" is not a defense.

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[William769]

45. *********IT WAS OBAMA THAT GAVE REUBLICANS A PASS************************************************

[HappyMe]

67. Okay then.

:eyes:



lol!


Nope. Y'all are give the pukes a pass.


President Mittens. President Perry.

[William769]

68. If thats your only argument for President Obama

Your sunk.

[HappyMe]

70. Okay.

Stay home, keep whining.

President Perry. Then you will have something to whine about. Then we are all sunk.

[William769]

71. We will Have President Obama to thank.

For Perry.

[HappyMe]

72. Like I said before,

who do you want to put up against him?

[William769]

73. Anyone who does not capitulate to Republicans!

[HappyMe]

75. Who? Who, exactly?

Time for the bitchers & moaners to step up & give a name..............

[William769]

78. I would vote for Governor Andrew M. Cuomo in a New York minute!

I would also vote for Matt Damon if Michael Moore could convince him to run. AT this point I am open to any and all suggestions to any Democrat that has the balls to stand up to the Republicans and IMHO President Obama is NOT that man.

[Number23]

79. MATT DAMON??!

Oh my Lord...my head. Oh God...

[William769]

80. Have you not been keeping up with the news?

[HappyMe]

82. I watch 10 minutes of E! every 2 weeks.

That's generally where actors show up.

[William769]

86. I'm sure Obama Supporters loved Matt when he helped Get Obama elected.

But now that Matt has seen the real Obama And is now in fact critic-in-chief & takes aim at Obama, they are not going to like him so much anymore.

[Bluebear]

97. Now Matt is a hater PUMA groupie!!!1

:cry:

[dionysus]

112. no, he's just an actor. who has good political views.

:shrug:

[MissDeeds]

164. Reagan, who Obama is frequently praising,

was just an actor too, until he got into politics.

[HappyMe]

87. Take a couple of advils..

I know I am.

[Enthusiast]

152. He could not be worse than Obama.........nt

[HappyMe]

81. wtf? Matt Damon?

Alrighty then.


Dude, could you pass a drug test right now?

And you are positive that Cuomo wouldn't cave? lol!

[William769]

84. Well I'm Positive President Obama has caved.

Ayone not living under a rock can see that.

Well it's time to log off. Hope you have a good night also.

[Marcel]

122. Drug test?

Gibbs, is that you?

[tgal]

165. 'drug test'

that's all you got? Insults? Pathetic.

My rethug neighbor talks to people who disagree with him like that, tries to belittle them personally and name calls because he's got nothing but insults and name calling.

[dionysus]

111. ROFL

a guy who supports fracking... and matt. damon.

:rofl:

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[woo me with science]

104. Thank you. He is doing exactly what he believes in.

He is not weak. He is not overwhelmed.

He believes in what he is doing. He WANTS to cut Medicare, and he WANTS to keep military spending.

He is a Third Way Democrat, and his goals for the economy and the wars are pretty much identical to those of the Republicans.

[Marcel]

123. +1 n/t

[shellgame26]

54. +1

That's the right soundbyte

[Marnie]

21. Woo Hoo Say it again and again Sam

You don't keep racing your dray horse against the fastest horses in town on the off chance you'll get lucky one day.
Not when you keep betting the farm on him, and losing.

[RiseAsOne]

25. I stand ready again to help with 2012, just not for him

I spent a lot of time, money, and effort to help Barack get elected in 2008, and I am sure most of the people posting here did as well. So I want the haters to stop getting mad at us when we don't see Obama doing what we fought so hard to elect him for. Each of us fought for Obama in '08 in our own ways and so we have the right to be upset with this lame-foot approach to tackling the GOP. In retrospect I guess I should have helped Hillary with her campaign instead, but I figured the damn GOP would just turn her into a whimpering claw-less complainer for the middle class instead of our hero like they did to Barack. I would never have figured he would have been so castrated by the GOP in such a short period of time. This is disgusting to watch everyday and if he won't rise up and use his bully pulpit to move Washington for us then we have to move him along and get some fresh blood in the whitehouse before we are stuck with Palin, or worse....

[abq e streeter]

34. Right on the money ...and welcome from your neighbor to the south

I worked for him too although I had my doubts from the get-go, because the alternative was, and is, so much worse (and will therefore have to disgustedly vote for him again for the same reason). I get as sick of the pointing out his failures as "bashing" as I did when pointing out the lies and crimes of the Bush Junta was labeled "bashing" from our enemies on the right.

[Angry Dragon]

99. +3

[swilton]

26. I rec'd this only for its expression of true Desperation not

that I believe it will have any affect.

Do I think Obama will listen - no because the Obama that this would appeal to is fiction, the Obama that would listen to this is mythical.....Obama was a corporate creation crafted from the cloth of a Hamiltonian Democrat. He's doing what his handlers want and will benefit from. End of story.

[TNLib]

28. Thats what I was afraid of

nt

[dionysus]

33. you keep jumping sharks posting these bitter, whiney blog posts.

[Name removed]

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[madamesilverspurs]

37. Exfuckingscuseme?!

"Whiner In Chief"??? So much for respect. And civility.


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[dionysus]

39. intentionally or not, this shit is doing the republicans work for them.

[Number23]

42. I don't get it either.

His detractors whine at every given opportunity. I'm sure a big number of his supporters do too. But I have never heard this president whine.

Every damn thing does not need to be posted here just 'cause it's "out there" on the Internet. I've seen shit from GOP.com and borderline white supremacist groups posted on DU lately. Anything that slams the president is fair game.

[bluestate10]

49. There are republican sock puppets on DU for sure.

The issue that socks me is how much people that call themselves progressives jump up and down clapping at the sock puppet bullshit.

[Number23]

52. I agree but I don't think that kpete is a sock

What it looks like to me -- to be perfectly blunt -- is that alot of people have lost their damned minds.

And I have absolutely no idea why people think that disinformation and dishonesty-fueled hysteria will make things better. This is becoming quite distressful.

[shellgame26]

55. Exactly

That was the shock to me. But I really shouldn't be surprised. I remember them well back in the 2000 elections saying close to the same Shit about Gore. There are always going to be a small percentage of lazy thinkers on either end of the spectrum...just didn't think I'd find so many here.

[HappyMe]

77. No kidding.

Jeez...maybe civility & respect will come with a republiskank prez.....?

[Bluebear]

98. "Exfuckingscuseme" - now that's civil lol

[Enthusiast]

153. What would Obama even say

on the campaign? His credibility is severely damaged.

[ProSense]

41. Here's a

Daily Kos diary that doesn't have 72 troll ratings like the OP diary.

The Commander in Chief

Much better.

[Number23]

43. Only 72 troll ratings? The folks at Kos are usually much more on top of things

And so far DU has given it a total of 40+ totally UNironic recs. :eyes:

No wonder there's no facepalm smiley here. It'd be used to death in a week.

[Name removed]

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[ProSense]

56. ? n/t

[truth2power]

47. Thanks for posting, kpete. It needs to be said. n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

51. He doesn't have to get mad. Just learn how to say "no".

And, he can even smile politely when wielding his unused veto pen on lousy Republican legislation.

[certainot]

57. your mother is a whore and your father is a thief - if you're a liberal

that's essentially what's being screamed from every stump and corner in the country 24/7.

the lazy whining left just sticks their iPods in their ears and walk by those soapboxes. there is NO organized opposition to the 1000 coordinated think tank scripted radio stations that dominate the radio airwaves and attack them and their reps all day and lie about and distort their ideals.

maybe all the new voters that obama brought out figured they just needed to vote and blog and and whine and everything would be hunky dory.

[MilesColtrane]

58. "get over yourself"?

What's next, "arrogant and full of himself"..."uppity"?

unrec

[seeker4ever]

102. So Any Criticism is Racist. I See. That's A Winning Strategy. NOT!

[Logical]

60. He is not what you call a fighter! n-t

[bertman]

66. I wasn't originally going to REC this because even though the President is a jellyfish he does

at least have the stones to stomp on us Liberals when he gets the chance, and I hate the fricking UNrec Brigade, so here's another REC.

As far as whining, I don't know why he would be whining since he appears to be getting what he's planned to get all along. Which is why I'm all in favor of primarying him.

[CakeGrrl]

69. Bullshit. The President has NEVER 'whined'.

I'd put money on the author of that post being a major skinned-knee weeper, though - probably the second anyone dared say something remotely close to that about them.

[Name removed]

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[WCGreen]

90. Finally, after all these years I got the 100th rec....

[ProSense]

106. Another must-read diary

Daily Kos rant: This Site is a F@cking Train Wreck

Relevant because it mentions the OP diary.

Fascinating stuff!

[disillusioned73]

108. OMG, that is the perfect description...

Obama has become the Rodney King of politics... "can't we all just get along?" all the while he's getting beaten to a bloody mess.... no Mr. President, no we can not.

[Peacetrain]

109. What absolute CRAP..

[BlueJac]

110. Not a whiner just a failure......

so there!

[closeupready]

113. K&R

nt

[DevonRex]

115. Yippee! I just live for all your anti-Obama crap.

Truly I do.

[divvy]

117. The "Lets be nice" crowd has fucked us all once again.

remember that

[avebury]

120. We need to stop focusing on Obama because that is a waste of

time. We need to focus on winning back the House with the largest number of seats possible and adding to our seats in the Senate. I would love to see a veto proof majority and then let Congress legislate what needs to be done no matter who sits in the White House. Imagine what a veto proof Congress could achieve in 2 years (starting out with changing the filabuster rules). Republicans, Tea party and Obama would all become irrelevant. Because if Obama is not going to be part of the solution then he needs to step aside and let those who can - do.

[lib2DaBone]

119. I can't believe Mr. Obama is that cluless or spineless......

..each day.. I am more convinced that he works for the Koch Bros. He is a plant.

From day one ....his choice of Geithner, Rahm, Robert Gates and other re-cycled Bush puppets.... I knew the fix was in.

[LibDemAlways]

124. He's no Dem, that's for sure. His campaign was

all about vague promises of "change." Just enticing enough to rope in the unsuspecting voter desperate to extricate the country from the Bush criminal cabal.

False advertising and a huge con perpetrated on the American people. And, what's the most gut wrenching, is that the "choice" next Nov. will more than likely be between bad and worse. We are totally fucked.

[Lorien]

130. It doesn't have to be that way. We can still vote for whoever we damn well please

and if that means that millions of us need to write in a candidate, then so be it. We aren't powerless.

[Lorien]

128. He's neither. He's a Trojan horse put in place to keep us from opposing

RW policies.

[Hubert Flottz]

127. I think he wants a raise.

And he can get it from Wall Street.

[orbitalman]

131. REALLY ! n/t

[Jim_Shorts]

136. I don't think Obama is given the credit he deserves

Watch him in public and he has a no nonsense straight forwardness and boyish honesty. He instills trust and gives hope, his words are like a painting. He has perfected the art of being a politician to a science.

Problem is with these guys, words are just tools, instruments to get reelected. The only way you can really judge them is by their actions. What do they sign or veto. How are they framing the argument. Who are they surrounding themselves with.

Anyone who knows Alan Simpson & Erskine Bowles knows what their recommendations would be.

Will Obama stand up for progressives?

"HE HAS US ON IGNORE"

[qb]

138. Rule of Bullies: No matter how many times you give them your lunch money

they're never going to like you.
It works best to fight back from the beginning.

[JoePhilly]

143. Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad

[obxhead]

155. Repeating the same process over and over while expecting different

results is the very definition of insanity.

It's time for Obama to stand up for us or get out of the way so someone else can do it.

[Firebrand Gary]

156. I have to totally agree with this.

[MissDeeds]

162. K&R

[Frisbee]

168. If it hasn't happened by now, it ain't gonna happen. n/t

what a waste his term has turned out to be.