Anyone else not "buying" all of this?

[CoffeeCat]

I guess I can't stomach the notion that a large financial institution, such as
Standard & Poor's, would not all ready be under the thumb of our corrupt politicians.

Seriously. By now, anyone who is a player--is in on the game. Am I supposed to believe
that one of the most important financial players in the world today--is somehow a rogue
company that is just being honest and is so upset by our corrupt political system?

Really.

We all know that the corporations are aligned with both Democrats and Republicans. They're a team
and have been so for years.

They're globalists and a global mindset cannot tolerate an empire. They're dismantling the United
States and wrecking it--because there is no place for an empire in a global market. Empires can
catalyze revolt. Usually the citizens of empires and educated and willing to protest and enlighten
the rest of the world about how corrupt things are.

Think it's a mistake that our jobs have been shipped overseas and our workforce decimated? Think it's
a mistake that the concentration of money has flowed up to the top 5 percent--leaving the lower and middle
classes hobbled? Think it's a mistake that the corporations always get what they want? Oh please.

They're downgrading us because it's part of the plan--slowly weaken the United States to make way for
the big game on the global stage--with homogenized countries.

We'll be downgraded again...and again. This is only the beginning.

And guess what? If you don't like all of this and you want new elected officials--They've got the voting machines.
Are you in the mood for a big protest...well, sorry--they've got the Patriot Act. It's all been planned years in
advance. Sorta like those aliens in War of the Worlds, who planted those machines in the ground before humans existed.

As Samuel L. Jackson said in "Jurassic Park" before the dinosaurs devoured almost everyone, "Hold on to yer butts!"

[divvy]

1. Google "Bond Vigilantees"

It is an obscure reference, but you will find that bond traders have the power to dictate policy to presidents and kings. You will find out how they changed Clinton's agenda.

Bond Vigilantees are not liberals, they are hard core conservatives.

[ingac70]

3. Are they the result of this activity?....

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110808-711482.html

[CoffeeCat]

8. Thanks for that info...

I'll do the Google. What's one more instance of me being outraged and disgusted, right? ;)

I also agree that the epicenter of this corruption is via conservatives. The PNAC/neocon
crowd owns all of this. The problem is, they slowly corrupted most Democrats. I agree,
liberals are not down with this at all--but I can count the number of liberals in Congress
on one hand.

That's the big problem.

[AlabamaLibrul]

10. “I used to think that if there was reincarnation, I wanted to come back as the president or the pope

or as a .400 baseball hitter. But now I would like to come back as the bond market. You can intimidate everybody."

-James Carville

[fivepennies]

2. Somebody doesn't like hearing the ugly truth.

K&R

[Karmadillo]

4. You, you, you--UNBELIEVER! Just give up your Social Security & Medicare, accept

a significant drop in wages, slice government spending (but not on the military--OR ELSE), don't tax the rich, and all will be well. And stop thinking. They don't like that at all.

[CoffeeCat]

9. If I start watching Fox News...

I believe the analytical part of my brain will just shut down, right?

I might try that. It surely would be more exciting to live in a fear-based, dumbed-down stupor--at
least for a little while!

:crazy:

[Whisp]

5. I could see some of what you are saying, but Obama is not in on it

the Clintons certainly are, and that's why she threw the primary. Didn't you think it was beyond strange all the mistakes and misteps she took? I did.

[CoffeeCat]

11. I hear you...

...and we'll never know what went down, behind the scenes.

It's obvious that Hillary was the neocon anointed one. They had McCain on the right and Hillary
on the left--assurances that the neocon agenda would continue.

I think Obama was a surprise to all of them. I live in Iowa, and Hillary sauntered into this state,
thinking that she had it all--and she didn't. Iowa caucus goers can smell bullshit and they want
authenticity. Hillary had none of it. In fact she planted questioners at a number of small events
and the news went viral. She never recovered.

Obama impressed everyone here. He won all 99 counties in Iowa and I don't think anyone anticipated that.

I do think Hillary fought like hell until the very end.

I also think that after Obama won, the neocon/corporatist brigade schooled him and told him how it
was going to go down. If we've learned anything from the Obama presidency, it's that the power of
the Presidency is limited. The real power structure lies with the neocons/corporatists who run things
from inside, from the CIA/Pentagon/NSA and also from the outside.

I wish Obama would just come out with it-and tell us how bad it is. We deserve that.

[Whisp]

12. yes, if only he could tell us.

''I wish Obama would just come out with it-and tell us how bad it is. We deserve that.''

but to be responsible for panics and riots in the streets and mayhem would be a tough call to make. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't in so many things. Hopefully he will write a book to tell us what it's really like on the inside and who the enemies of the state really are.

[anamandujano]

6. It makes sense.

That is most likely the big picture. We're all just flailing trying to figure out what is coming next.

I got a strange feeling with the announcement of Obama's job tour and then Gingrich complaining about it. I didn't bother to open the thread. My first thought was that if he didn't like it that was good.

Pukes got what they wanted. Obama pretends to care about jobs. Pukes pretend they're unhappy even though they did a smash and grab again, with Obama on board.

What a boring stupid game.

[CoffeeCat]

7. A boring game...exactly--

and frankly, I'd be bored if others felt the same way. Too many people are asleep--or they're
so preoccupied with fighting against "the other side" that they miss the real game.

The real games is that the power structure is united against US. They are attempting to create
horrifying divisions between the masses (that' what the Tea Party is all about) in order to keep
us fractured and weak. A divided electorate can't rise up and fight the real problems, especially
when so many of them are convinced that their enemy is their next-door neighbor or the guy in the
cubicle next to him.

I'm bored with all of this--because I've been onto them for years. So have many others here.

I wish I have the same nonchalant disposition about the future of our country, but with so many
people "confused" by what is happening--that's not likely.

I feel like I'm watching a cataclysmic disaster in slow motion.