When the media says that both sides are to blame...

[kentuck]

that means the Repubs win the propaganda battle.

Because they know that if both Parties start with equal blame, the Repubs will win the war in the media and the Democrats will be blamed.

For example, FOX News starts their show this morning with this very point: they are both to blame. The reality is that both Parties are not to blame. The Republican Party, led by the radical Tea Partiers are solely to blame. We should not let the media promote that crap without a response.

The fact of the matter is that raising the debt limit has been a routine matter since 1917. Both Parties, even though there have been protest votes, always agreed that America would pay its debts. Until this year. The Tea Party and the Republicans - they cannot be separated - chose to hold the country hostage. They said it wouldn't matter if we defaulted. We would have enough money coming in to pay the interest on the debt. Unless they got trillions of dollars in spending cuts, they were ready to let this country go under.

So, media, tell us again who is to blame??

You lying stack of shits!

[XanaDUer]

1. I know

we have to make sure we rub their faces in this mess THEY'VE created.

[LaydeeBug]

2. "Well both sides do it" is the meme when a Republican has nowhere to go, it is almost as good as

"This is strictly the Republicans' fault".

and they ARE lying sacks of shit!!! So it's time we demand our president stop cow towing to them.

[BeyondGeography]

3. Aren't they just repeating White House bullshit?

Flip for effect. They'd be doing this anyway, but Obama repeatedly gives them an out.

[msongs]

4. dems voted for it and Obama SIGNED IT. it ain't the media that is in denial lol nt

[kentuck]

6. Why do you think they voted for it?

And why do you think the President signed it?

[Lorien]

10. Pressure from the owners

While we all get caught up in party politics they're taking it ALL.

[TwilightGardener]

5. Agreed. Well said.

[BumRushDaShow]

7. Democrats don't own any media. That's problem #1. n/t

[DemocratAholic]

8. make media afraid to report truth

I saw a discussion about this on CNN recently where they were talking about the fact that the "media" always seems to blame both parties, and rarely put the blame on Republicans even when they obviously deserve it. Republicans have in fact succeeded in changing news reporting by making reporters afraid to report the facts when Republicans are to blame.

This has been part of the Republican strategy for years, make so much noise about the "liberal media" that the media is afraid to ever say anything about Republicans.

[kentuck]

11. Just as they say both sides are to blame for the huge deficits....

When every person in America knows that Bill Clinton left a balanced budget and a surplus and was paying down the debt when he left office. Not only did Bush spend the surplus and wiped out the projected surplus of $5 trillion dollars, he added over $5 trillion dollars to the debt and left a deficit of $1.2 trillion for President Obama. And both sides are to blame for the deficit problem? Bullshit!

[Cool Logic]

16. There is only one thing wrong with your analogy...

Neither Clinton, bush, or Obama ever spent a dime. Spending bills originate in the House and are passed by Congress as a whole. The two sides may have said different things; however, the results were pretty much the same.

[kentuck]

19. The President is the leader of his Party..

The Congress and Senate usually try to pass his agenda, as when George W Bush wanted to pass the huge taxcuts because "it is the people's money". So the President has a huge roll in what is passed, even though it is the House where spending bills originate. Also, as it was Clinton's idea to increase taxes by 3% on the wealthy. The House passed it... then lost to the Repubs.

[Cool Logic]

9. "When the media says that both sides are to blame..." They are correct.

However, they take the back and forth blame games between the Ds and Rs far too seriously. For the fact of the matter is that our Representatives are much more in touch with one another, than they are with their constituents.

Seriously, why do you think 1% of the population controls 38% of the wealth?

Answer: Because our Representatives let them have it.

Both Ds and Rs let the K-Street boys write the rules and as a result, our free-market economy has been transformed into a tightly controlled-market economy, which benefits their contributors and restricts the rest of us.

[coalition_unwilling]

14. Hello, both parties now represent the interests of the ruling class and

neither party represents any longer the interests of the working class.

400 American families control as much wealth as 150 million Americans. That's many things but a well-represented working class it is not!

[liberal N proud]

12. They are doing what they have always done, play for the right

Liberal media my ass!

[theaocp]

13. Unfortunately, Obama keeps repeating this himself.

As the NYT piece from today said, his stories either minimize or outright lack a villain. I wish he'd stop showing his version of bipartisanship by telling the American people how much gridlock both sides are causing. Republicans never do that and he could learn a fucking lesson from their actions, at least in that regard. Go on the offense and stay there. Oh, who am I kidding? It's not in his nature. Expect more of the same "sharing the blame," of which the Republicans will absorb none.

[steelmania75]

15. I agree mostly, but Obama should be given some blame for being weak on this issue.

[Cool Logic]

17. Presidents always get the blame...or in the case of something good, the credit.

Meanwhile, members of the House and Senate skate by under the radar.

It's the same thing with deficit spending...even though not a single President has ever spent a dime.

[ashling]

18. I've run into that meme here

faulty logic

[The Wielding Truth]

20. The body has a cancer that is killing it and the head is trying to

rationalize it into cooperation and the limbs are flailing the feet are marching in circles, the heart is on involuntary continuum and the poison being pumped through it's system is changing it's identity so the anti bodies don't recognize it as poison.

Big business through the Republican Party has control over the body's reactions of to save it's self.

The US is being killed. Those who wish to save it are being pushed away. The disease is taking over.

The will of it's soul must come to bare on this problem and a solid effort must be made to stop and reverse this deadly and insidious scourge.

We must assemble the doctors, experts, scientists, specialists,and educated planners to start the cure.Then all of our will must be concentrated on steady enforcement of their prescriptions.

We must be healed while we are strong enough and lucid enough to resist the malaise of apathy.

Here's to the body of reason and freedom we have called Democracy. Here's to The United States of America.