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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 11:53 PM
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Would someone please explain how a country loses sovereignty and what that means exactly.
Please. I dont understand this concept.
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:12 AM
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1. One country uses force, whether military, economic, or political
to control another country. The slave nation has lost their sovereignty. Normally the easiest way is to use traitors in place to assist the conquerors, usually under the guise of "assistance" to the slaves.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:16 AM
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2. Here is a start. Sovereignty when most people are talking
Edited on Sun Aug-07-11 12:18 AM by OHdem10
about it in general refers Country"s supreme control over
itself. No other country can interfere in the affairs
of a country.

Conservatives in the past have been very big on Sovereignty
issues. This was the basis for a lot of conservatives(ordinary
rank and file conservatives) being uncomfortable with the UN.

Oh from time to time you will here bring up some notion
of UN wanting the world to pay a tax which could be used
for UN missions. We are soverein nation. We will not take
orders from any Group like the U.N. There are lotsa Americans
who are more insular in their thinking. We take care of our
own, the other countries do the same. "Leave Us Alones"

Reality Globalization, Trade Deals have the world interconnected.
and I am sure we will begin to hear more about protecting
our soverignty.

It will surprise me for the Sov. Issue to be raised about
the Debt Limit.

In a globalized world very complex relationships develop
between countries. The Sovereignty Police may be out
and about.


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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:59 AM
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9. i heard max keiser discussing greece and the debt fiasco here
he mentioned portugal, italy, ireland and the us in relation to sovereignty..and the thread of losing it
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:18 AM
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3. If Greece was armed to the teeth like us they'd be Soveriegn.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 07:38 AM
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7. Greece does not have a Federal Reserve who can print money
This is one reason you cannot compare us to Greece.
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Pilotguy Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:40 AM
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4. I Think George W. Said It Best...
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sandyj999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 05:38 AM
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5. That Clears It Up. n/t
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TeamsterDem Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 05:43 AM
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6. haha damn you!!! I was going to post that!!! j/k. n/t
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:55 AM
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8. lol..that would have been my hot seat answer as well ..hence the reason for the question..nt
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fivepennies Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:03 PM
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10. A country loses sovereignty
when it signs international treaties that turns over its decision making authority to unelected global entities.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:27 PM
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11. would you mind giving an example?..are decisions then made only by the people who bail them out?
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fivepennies Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 03:36 PM
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12. An example:
Sanctions levied by member states of the UN against "sovereign" nations who refuse to go along with international dictat, sometimes expanding to multinational war against that belligerent nation-state. This is used most frequently when the nation has resources some major private industry wants to exploit. And even more frequently the wars are then paid for by people living in the invading nations who objected to the invasions.

But probably the best examples are the IMF and the WTO. What so-called sovereign nation escapes their rule-making?
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 08:54 PM
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15. thank you..nt
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 03:39 PM
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13. they lose it through wars when they come under the control
of some other power
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 03:43 PM
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14. Sovereignty exists only insofar as it can be defended.
If taking your sovereignty is too dangerous and expensive to be worth the effort you have it; if not. . .
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