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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 11:47 AM
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An older article explaining what might be happening to Obama


<snip> Ok, back to President Obama then. In just a few words, how would you describe him these days? Like I said, it’s been a while since I was last at the White House, but I don’t have a problem saying that the president is losing it. I don’t mean he is like losing his mind. I mean to say that he is losing whatever spark he had during the campaign. When you take away the crowds, Obama gets noticeably smaller. He shrinks up inside of himself. He just doesn’t seem to have the confidence to do the job of President, and it’s getting worse and worse. Case in point – just a few days before I left, I saw first hand the President of the United States yelling at a member of his staff. He was yelling like a spoiled child. And then he pouted for several moments after. I wish I was kidding, or exaggerating, but I am not. The President of the United States threw a temper tantrum. The jobs reports are always setting him off, and he is getting increasingly conspiratorial over the unemployment numbers. I never heard it myself, but was told that Obama thinks the banking system is out to get him now. That they and the big industries are making him pay for trying to regulate them more. That is the frame of mind the President is in these days. And you know what? Maybe he is right, who knows?

Will Obama run again in 2012? I don’t know. That subject was never brought up again after 2008, at least not around me. If he does, I think it would have more to do with allowing him another year and a half of campaigning again. He just loves it so much. He really needs the crowds, the cheering, the support of the people. <snip>

Read more: http://newsflavor.com/opinions/white-house-insider-on-obama-president-losing-it/#ixzz1UGgZ7nto
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 11:50 AM
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1. This is interesting. However, no offense intended, I don't care as much
about what's happening to the President to explain his behavior, but rather what is happening to us due to Washington.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 11:51 AM
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2. It's inter-related. If the president is depressed, then his base has zero leadership
With zero leadership, nothing gets done.

When libs do nothing, the Repukes take over.

The End.
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Roselma Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 11:54 AM
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3. An anonymous source who was in the administration
transition team? Hmmmm....wonder why this anonymous source no longer affiliated must remain anonymous. I wonder if there are bad feelings there, and possibly the desire to get in a jab against the president. Just wondering.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 11:56 AM
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4. Because when someone is exposing secrets, one would have to be an idiot to do so openly
I wouldn't.

Maybe you would.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:08 PM
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11. I can understand the alleged insider wanting anonymity, however I would
to know if others have ever mentioned that Obama lacked intellectual curiosity, was lazy, preferred sports more than politics.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 11:58 AM
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5. I'm glad he's becoming "conspiratorial." That means
he's finally seeing what the rest of us are seeing and figuring out.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:02 PM
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6. He seems to have 0 energy. He sure doesn't have campaign energy when he's president nt
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:08 PM
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10. When you've been beaten up politically, especially by
your own damn party, I'd imagine it takes a toll. That's why it wouldn't bother me if he didn't run again. He's made history and gotten alot of meaningful legislation passed and signed. He doesn't have anything to prove.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:56 PM
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20. His 'own damned party' stood behind him like a ROCK! Did he stand behind me? Behind us?
Did he fight the Republicans, or was he more interested in having them like him, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY TORTURED HIM, CALLED HIM NON-AMERICAN, INSULTED HIM, ACCUSED HIM OF BEING A MUSLIM, ETC.

We, his base, were ready for whatever he told us to do.

He gave us NO instructions. Instead, he spent all his time playing nice with the enemy. And they ARE the enemy of the U.S. as we can all plainly see. It's no mystery.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:07 PM
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31. Bullshit! If his own damn party had voted in the midterms
the tea party would not have infiltrated congress and we would still have the majority! He doesn't need THAT kind of support.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:44 PM
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34. They did, it was the MODERATES who staid home
or SWITCHED to CONSERVATIVE.

If you cared for poll internals... oh never mind, not worth it.

Have a good day
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:58 PM
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39. Yep, and any time someone tells me they're a moderate, I automatically register, "REPUKE"
Because that's what they are. Like Libertarians, they're right wingnuts who don't want to be seen as illiterate, braindead a-hs, so they hide behind the moderate label.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:56 PM
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38. I VOTED. Did he support those like me? The middle class?
I waited to hear him say, 'STAND BEHIND ME!'

Instead, he was more interested in playing nice with Repukes, despite these assholes trashing him at every turn.

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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:25 PM
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32. I don't see that as conspiratorial - I see it as the raw reality
I even started a thread here at DU to that effect a few months back. A friend of mine said I was too cynical. Well perhaps she is right but there has been too much stuff happening to the detriment of all of us, deliberately manipulated by the right, to make Obama look bad.

Sam
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:42 PM
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33. Oh, I absolutely agree. n/t
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:02 PM
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7. Old article Sept 7, 2010. The tell was..
Edited on Sat Aug-06-11 12:02 PM by Little Star
"Will Obama run again in 2012? I don’t know." We all know he's running for re-election.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:03 PM
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8. Yes, I got a call asking for funds. Last campaign, I donated funds. I told them I'd call them back
I'm no longer sure.

I don't think he appeals to his base. He seems to be hell bent on pleasing the right wingers, of which I am not one.

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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:04 PM
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9. Sorry, you did say it was a older article. Hasn't he set up
campaign headquarters in Chicago already?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:54 PM
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19. Yep. But I posted it because it explained that he might be depressed
That the campaign was exciting but the presidency has had a different effect on him.

I understood it was an old article. I figured it might have explained his behavior in the presidency, however.

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:56 PM
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21. this blogger is promoted by hate blogger Pam Geller...would not believe any of it
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:04 PM
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23. Okay, but then I want an explanation. I gave my all to his campaign.
I was READY to jump and do anything he asked me to once he was president. There were no instructions. There was no assurance. There was only him, being attacked, and his response to every one of their attacks on his person, was to be nicer and nicer to the Republicans.

I don't understand that kind of reaction. I grew up believing that you do not allow yourself to be attacked without attacking back.

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:06 PM
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24. that's your right but this blogger is a fraud imo and I wouldn't put any stock in what they say
jmo.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:41 PM
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26. Ok, thank you. I'm back to not understanding. :( nt
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:10 PM
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25. thanks for that Info-
I didn't take the article to be of any substance- it's good to know the origins.

:hi:
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:11 PM
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12. Of course he seems different
Edited on Sat Aug-06-11 12:13 PM by loyalsister
Campaigns are supposed to be cheerful, happy face events. Being president is serious business with serious responsibilities.
OF COURSE he's pissed. Who wouldn't be when people are challenging your citizenship and have made it a mission to see you fail.
Do we really expect the president to be walking around with a happy face when we have wars going on and high employment and having to choose between bad and worse? Is it possible that he is privately not so happy about this debt ceiling deal? Is it possible that he feels very much like the people who are coming down on him about some of the the decisions he has had to make?
Maybe it's just the difference between a president who takes his job seriously and one who walks around with a goofy smirk on his face all day.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:47 PM
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28. I think he's only focused on trying to please Republicans, and that's NOT the right thing to do
AT ALL. Would you do that, if you're being trashed by those very people, 24/7?
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:02 PM
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29. The problem is they are the majority in the house
Edited on Sat Aug-06-11 02:11 PM by loyalsister
Democrats have a very weak majority in the Senate. The real problem is that when the legislative branch is that full of republicans, the fact is they can legitimately make the false claim that they represent a majority in the US.

The president can work with them or act like an absolutist imperialist.

We are actually trying to do away with the absolutist imperialist philosophy the previous administration imposed.

I don't know what I would do in his position. I work with advocacy groups dealing directly with local government as they write bills. We have a saying "no permanent friends - no permanent enemies."

We have had to make friends with the devil to get outcomes that barely resemble what I had hoped for and consider ourselves lucky.
We usually walk away tired and relieved, but not exactly cheerful.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 03:02 PM
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30. Go along to get along
If you had followed Obama from the 90's you would have noticed that what has worked for him is TO NEVER MAKE ANY WAVES. In other words, never fight under any circumstance. He probably is depressed because he is a one trick pony and he can't understand why giving into extortion doesn't stop the extortion.

This is simply beyond him. He got to where he is by not fighting. He knows nothing else.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:51 PM
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37. I'm highly disappointed. nt
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:14 PM
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13. I'd take this blogger with a huge grain of salt, from MM: The Unbelievable Adventures Of Ulsterman
The Unbelievable Adventures Of Ulsterman, Super-Journalist
May 04, 2011 3:20 pm ET by Ben Dimiero

Yesterday, noted conspiracist, Islamophobe, and Fox Business regular Pam Geller forwarded an explosive allegation: that the military had "overruled" President Obama's order to abort the Osama bin Laden kill mission. As we detailed, Geller is so committed to trying to make Obama look bad that she was willing to casually accuse the military of essentially committing sedition. (Geller later updated with a second story that contradicted the details of the first.)

Her source for the allegation and the update was an anonymous writer named "Ulsterman," who regularly posts articles at "NewsFlavor" and other sites with user-submitted content. Ulsterman can be found tackling tough issues like whether Julia Roberts has gotten a "boob job" or if "a few more pizzas really account for the considerable increase in her breast size." Of more interest, however, are Ulsterman's series of "interviews" with a "long time D.C. insider" making fantastical allegations about the goings-on in the Obama administration.

Ulsterman's interviews with the "White House Insider" don't pass the smell test.

Here's a snippet of one of the "insider's" answers from an interview Ulsterman published yesterday regarding the bin Laden mission. The "insider" purports to describe the dynamic in the room during the "now famous photo" of Obama and his national security team during the bin Laden raid. Apparently, Obama's national security team just pretended he wasn't there:

more: http://mediamatters.org/blog/201105040021

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:24 PM
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14. I poked around that site, skimmed the article and some others - that place has no credibility
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JNinWB Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:33 PM
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15. As long as this article bashes Obama

It must be posted here in order to create more dissension among Democrats.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:34 PM
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16. He does'nt act like he's on fire for 2012
Edited on Sat Aug-06-11 12:42 PM by Vanje
Obama doesn't seem to be enjoying his work.
I am not enjoying his work much , myself!

At best, he's a weak Democrat.
At second best he's not at all weak. But he's a Republican.

I would like to see him step down from running , and let a Democrat with some belly-fire have a go at the nomination, but I very much doubt if the people who are backing/running Obama will let him do that.



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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:44 PM
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17. I don't think Obama answers to himself
and I sure as heck know, he is not answering to the American people.

Who is he working for?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:46 PM
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27. He's focusing on Republicans. That's NOT the thing to focus on.
The way our poor and middle class is suffering IS what is to focus for. He needed to get his base ON FIRE to push Republicans out of office.

Instead, he wanted to befriend Republicans while they trashed him from coast to coast.

What on earth is that about?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:00 PM
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22. Still pissed off about that other thing, Hmm??
More 'insider' garbage.

How come MORE - like dozens of people out of the WH aren't saying the same thing?

Dozens reported how dismissive and ignorant Bush was every year he was in.

Yet with O, not so much. None in fact except this turd.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:46 PM
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35. Teh reason why this could not shock me is...
this is a common pattern with the Presidency. It does not matter whether it is LBJ, who had a few issues, the well known issues with Nixon, or far less.

The bubble is one of the causes for this.
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:50 PM
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36. The president may have a point. I was telling my husband it's like these business are
holding back til a republican gets in. Corporations are holding back til Obama gives them what they want. I guess we need to support him. The sad thing is these republicans would rather see the government fall because they hate Obama so much.
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