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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:26 PM
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Debt-hit students urged to sell their kidneys
http://www.scotsman.com/news/Debthit-students-urged-to-sell.6811975.jp

STUDENTS should be able to sell their kidneys for tens of thousands of pounds to pay off university debts, according to a Scots academic.
Sue Rabbitt Roff believes making it legal to sell the body part would boost the number of organs available to save lives and help students struggling with money.

She argues that donors should be paid the average UK annual income of around £28,000.

It is currently illegal to sell organs and tissues in the UK under the Human Tissue Act (2004) and across the world apart from in Iran.

More at the link ---

:wow:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:28 PM
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1. This is evil. n/t
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:29 PM
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2. it's unbelievable! n/t
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:01 PM
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20. unbelievably evil
yes, ma'am.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:20 PM
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23. True Evil
x
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indurancevile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:32 PM
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7. yes, it is.
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:43 PM
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15. Agreed.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 05:05 PM
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35. If one of my children would die without a new kidney
and someone with a compatible kidney was willing to sell one, and I could afford to pay, I would be sorely tempted. There is no reduction in the donor's life expectancy; perhaps they could pay off their debts and improve their lifestyle, and my kid would get to survive. I understand the ethical issues, but would this be the most evil thing ever? No.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 06:13 PM
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36. Even for a healthy young person to donate a kidney isn't such an innocuous procedure.
Especially for a female, who might want to get pregnant, or anyone who might -- in the future -- develop high blood pressure, diabetes, or any other condition that can put a strain on kidneys.

We have a back-up kidney for a reason -- and it's not so we can sell it. No one should be so poor that they should be tempted to sell an important bodily organ.

I say this as the close relative of someone who might need a donated kidney some day. No one should be pressured into that kind of decision -- it's life changing.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:29 PM
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3. This is REALLY fucked up! n/t
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katnapped Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:30 PM
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4. It's coming to this country
TPTB will make sure of it!
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:40 PM
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13. They would take it even further and want to enact laws requiring
forced donation of body parts to cover any debt to society. In fact, the teabaggers would take advantage of this to get some donated brains!
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:16 PM
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21. The problem with accepting brains from others is that
those willing to donate their brains would not be all totally there.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:59 PM
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34. Yeah! They'd be a bit shy of a six pack too, wouldn't they! n/t
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:30 PM
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5. well, at least the economic elites are no longer pretending what it is they have in mind for us
...or how they view the "humanity" of we in the "lesser classes..."
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:31 PM
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6. This is
not yet SOYLENT GREEN!
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:35 PM
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11. Getting close, still have eyes to go, limbs, various body parts. The human
species as a whole is disgusting, a failed extraterrestrial experiment. I have no doubt in some dark circles they are discussing soylent green.

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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:45 PM
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16. I wonder if
those rendering plants can be adapted to extract human protein?

http://www.naturalcanines.com/gpage8.html

http://www.bornfreeusa.org/articles.php?p=378&more=1

That is the kind of stuff that would make Morelocks drool.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:32 PM
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31. Gross, isn't it! Probably! n/t
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:32 PM
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8. Seeking Arrangement: College Students Using 'Sugar Daddies' To Pay Off Loan Debt

snip

A month prior, faced with about $15,000 in unpaid tuition and overdue bills, Taylor and her roommate typed "tuition," "debt," and "money for school" into Google. A website called SeekingArrangement.com popped up. Intrigued by the promise of what the site billed as a "college tuition sugar daddy," Taylor created a "sugar baby" profile and eventually connected with the man from Greenwich.

snip

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/29/seeking-arrangement-college-students_n_913373.html

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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:34 PM
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9. members of Congress will be advocating the same thing
to bad there isn't a high demand for organs of the elderly.
It would help pay for their medicine:sarcasm:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:35 PM
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10. What a pitiful excuse for a human is she.
Shylock:
Most learnèd judge, a sentence! Come prepare!

Portia:
Tarry a little, there is something else.
This bond doth give thee here no jot of blood;
The words expressly are "a pound of flesh."

- K&R
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:36 PM
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12. Not only is it effed-up, but it would barely make a dent in my
graduate student loan debt. And I'm not even using the degree. Most of the loan is capitalized interest from putting the loan in forbearance because I couldn't pay it off even though I was working.

It's about 5 times what I borrowed 15 years ago. Think I would have ever gotten that rate of return in the market or in a savings account? F-ing usury. :grr:
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:43 PM
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14. ...................
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 02:43 PM by Dawson Leery
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Maine_Nurse Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:50 PM
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17. If I could hav e a good hospital/surgeon do the work for free...
I'd shed a kidney and probably a liver lobe to erase my $56K in student loans. I make $19.00 an hour as an RN, BSN and my loan payments kick my ass.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:00 PM
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18. God forbid we re-tax the rich to pay for education.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:01 PM
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19. rec for classic GD post nt
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:19 PM
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22. Positively Dickensian
with a dsah of Sweeney Todd thrown in for good measure. :scared:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:27 PM
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24. or Swiftian (I hoped)
but satire died out awhile ago because the world was getting to crazy for it....
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:35 PM
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25. As soon as I can sell other people's organs, I'm in - Burke, Hare, & Sons, Inc.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:48 PM
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26. Truly vile. And she notes she wouldn't do it herself.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/Debthit-students-urged-to-sell.6811975.jp?articlepage=2

However, Mrs Roff said she would not sell one of her kidneys. "I don't feel the need or the pressure for money. I'm a middle-class person and I'm not in that situation. But we shouldn't legislate for other people.



I'd suggest she read Jonathan Swift, but she'd likely consider it a reasonable proposal and miss the satire.







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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:49 PM
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27. It's like the movie "Dirty Pretty Things"

nt

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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:08 PM
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28. A modest proposal?
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:12 PM
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29. I wonder which teatalitarian will
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 04:12 PM by hifiguy
introduce legislation of this sort here, and when they will do it. You know it's coming.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:13 PM
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30. A Modest Proposal?
is this guy going all Jonathan Swift on us? Or is he for real?
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:42 PM
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32. Gee. What will those crazy capitalist come with next?
Wrong on every level. I say this as a person who is close to several people on the transplant list. Some have waited for over ten years.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:43 PM
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33. Will they come with a nice Chianti?
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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 11:54 AM
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37. Let's just go full "Logan's Run".... EOM
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