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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 01:56 PM
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'Rs lay out their ideas and then Ds try to fight back' IMO the WH needs to push a 'Win the Future' ...
a 'Win the Future' Budget. focused on JOBS, to take back the initiative and get back to the REALITY hundreds of millions of Americans face.

Let ALL "Bush" tax cuts expire, but create a package of 2011 OBAMA tax cuts replacing Bush tax breaks dollar-for-dollar, but only for those earning below $250k a year, and giving extra help to ACTUAL small-business job creators. Propose these tax cuts in a "Win the Future" White House budget that features CBO-scored estimates of the number of jobs these Obama 2011 tax cuts will create, as well as their budget impact.

Include options for stimulus spending cloaked as tax cuts, such as refundable per-child tax credits and capped nonrefundable credits for buying Infrastructure Bank bonds. Together with extension of the current payroll-tax break that put $1000 in the pockets of the median worker, and with renewal of extended unemployment benefits that have the CHO-scored best "bang for the buck" on job creation, these options would stimulate consumer demand and job creation by CBO-quantified amounts. And, to fend off Republican opposition, they'd exploit Republican addiction to tax cuts of any stripe.

More detais at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1636415 .

The quote in the title of this thread comes from OHdem10 in another GD thread, at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1654138&mesg_id=1654217 .
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 01:58 PM
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1. I don't agree - Media does not give DEMs a voice
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 02:00 PM by FreakinDJ
other then in opposition to GOP

Even thou DEMs have offered numerous bills to correct Corporate Tax Loopholes all we hear is Boner crying Corps need tax cuts to create jobs. What Utter BullShit
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:03 PM
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3. Have Democrats united around one theme as solidly as Rs have pushed 'No New Yaxes'"
I don't think so.

Have Democrats pushed any document the way Republicans pushed the "brave" (but pitifully stupid) Ryan budget?

IMO, you have to SEIZE attention in the media with a unified, endlessly-repeated, single message.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:09 PM
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6. Can't really agree with that
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 02:11 PM by FreakinDJ
Certainly the wealth of Bills coming from the Democrats in the lead up to and during the Debt Ceiling Debate would suggest they have been ignored by the media.

I guess "No New Taxes" is certainly a better sound byte for the media compared to "Putting Americans Back to Work"

<on edit>

even when posting articles discussing Corp Tax Code loopholes, it flies over the head of 99,9% of the folks at DU
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:22 PM
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8. 'the wealth of bills coming from the Democrats' Our "infotainment" media don't READ 'bills'
Authors of the bills have to get on TV and SELL their ideas.

Unfortunately, some of the brightest Democrats are not very adept at interviews with the media. For example, Rosa DeLaura (D-CT?) came up with the most brillioant idea in many years, IMO--Infrasctructure Banks, which solve the fundamental problem of lack of government capital budgeting.

But have you ever seen her on TV explaining her idea, even on friendly venues such as Rachel Maddow or Keith Olberman?
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:51 PM
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9. Corp Tax Code loopholes flies over the head of 99,9% of the folks at DU
and you expect the Gen Population to do better

Bloomberg, WSJ, Washington Post - they control the public opinion on fiscal matters and they are giving these proposals ZERO exposure. DU gives them even less
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:30 PM
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10. IMO the WH needs a 'War Room' to direct a far-reaching campaign to get its
unified message out to voters. A War Room something like James Carville's effort during the Clinton election campaign.

A large staff would meet every day to plan specific events such as demonstrations, shouted questions at Republican meetings, etc. If no one could think of a good reason not to go ahead, each idea would become reality.. Press releases flew like swarms of locusts, targeting individual media outlets in hundreds of markets.

See http://books.google.com/books?isbn=0743234480 .
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 01:59 PM
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2. What future?
:cry:
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:05 PM
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4. The one that always comes after tomorrow, good or bad
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 01:27 PM
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12. Oh, THAT one.
:rofl:
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:33 PM
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11. Kick!
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:08 PM
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5. Sorry to mince words,
but "win" implies losers. It is the old paradigm and smacks with the implication that winners take all.

Rather than win the future, we could empower and enrich it, and in that sense, create it.

Enough of the old, competitive jargon! Cooperation is our best bet and that's why we have been divided and distracted by ideas and ideologies that are rapidly deteriorating our lives and exist to support a small, wealthy Status Quo.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:15 PM
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7. IMO global competition is REALITY. The US is losing jobs, prestige, and power
to China, Brazil, India, Sourh Korea, and other nations that build better cars, airplanes, applieances, etc that we do, and sell them far cheaper.

Millions of Americans are suffering with low or NO incomes. IMO they are hungry for a message that there may be hope.
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